November 2, 2003, 20:08
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Settler
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Look at this on CFC
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November 2, 2003, 20:15
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King
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Thanks for the link.
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However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.
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November 2, 2003, 20:37
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And also look at this, here on Poly:
Epic Game Units
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November 3, 2003, 02:26
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Prince
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I wonder if the pop lost when switching to fascism are gained by other civs elsewhere? Probably not, but it would be cool if it were so - population flees to neighboring nations when the fascists rise to power. Or perhaps the loss represents the purged (executed) resistance when the fascists seized control...
In a similar vein, I've been thinking of modeling a police state gov that democracies can switch to when it becomes necessary to suspend the Constitution. I'm wondering if fascism (or another existing gov) would fit the bill, or if I should make something similar, but different (though I like the pop loss - like Americans fleeing to Canada, Mexico and Europe if martial law is declared.
If Democracy is:
Cost/unit: 1
Town/City/Metro: 0/1/2 (my changes - 'patriots')
Worker rate: 3
Draft limit: 1
Mil. Police: 0
Corruption/Waste: minimum
Hurry: paid labor
War weariness: high
Other: improvement maintenance & trade bonus
Then perhaps Police State should be:
Cost/unit: 1
Town/City/Metro: 0/0/0
Worker rate: 2 (1?) (dispirited workers)
Draft limit: 2
Mil. Police: 2 (1?)
Corruption/Waste: nuisance (or problematic, due to regular c/w + internal monkeywrenching?)
Hurry: paid labor
War weariness: low (high?)
Other: improvement maintenance, NO trade bonus, forced resettlement (+ xeno from loss of democracy?)
Whadday'all think?
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November 3, 2003, 09:41
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Chieftess
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The citizens aren't relocated. Xenophobia just represents the darker side of civilization.
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November 3, 2003, 17:45
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King
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What legal American would flee to Mexico???
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However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.
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November 3, 2003, 19:58
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hmm
and why would anyone ever pick police state?
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November 3, 2003, 20:08
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Emperor
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Re: Look at this on CFC
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Is that the same as the link posted by Jaybe?
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November 3, 2003, 20:26
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Re: Re: Look at this on CFC
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Originally posted by vovansim
Is that the same as the link posted by Jaybe?
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No, mine was to Poly>General>...
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November 3, 2003, 20:46
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Emperor
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Re: Re: Re: Look at this on CFC
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Originally posted by Jaybe
No, mine was to Poly>General>...
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No, I realize that. I can tell 'Poly from CFC. What I meant was: is it the same content? I still can't access that CFC thread due to the same error...
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November 3, 2003, 20:46
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Deity
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Originally posted by TechWins
What legal American would flee to Mexico???
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One who likes Tequilla?
Or hates income tax.
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November 3, 2003, 21:04
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King
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One who likes Tequilla?
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Yes, lets flee to Mexico. Screw going down to the store maybe 1-2 miles away to buy tequilla. Lets go to Mexico to get some tequilla. 
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Or hates income tax.
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I think having clean water should compensate for having to pay income tax.
vovansim, the thread on CFC is about governments just to let you know.
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However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.
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November 3, 2003, 22:11
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Deity
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I like how fascism works better with SMALL cities than large ones.
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November 10, 2003, 15:37
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Interesting. Tell me more about the feudalism goverment. What does it entail?
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November 10, 2003, 17:11
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Emperor
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Alexander01, look at civ3.com, screenshots. The new government civilopedia screens are there.
Better yet, get it directly from the game.
Query: Why isn't the civilopedia in a PDF so you can look at it when not in the game?
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November 10, 2003, 17:47
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Deity
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I don't see any PDF for it.
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November 10, 2003, 18:15
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Indeed. It would be a superb reference to have on hand. Especially for those of us not yet preiveliged enough to own Conquests!
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"We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
The Kingdom of Jerusalem: Chronicles of the Golden Cross - a Crusader Kings After Action Report
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