November 13, 2003, 21:23
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Do you get tech for being first?
Ok, so I am going to expose my ignorance again. I thought you got a tech advance if you were first to learn a new tech.
You also have a small change to get a SGL.
Does this apply through out the game or stop after ancient age?
I ask because I find I have a constant two tech lead, but never get a free tech after the ancient age. I got a SGL after that age
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Some cases, their could be no obvious reason that anyone could have the tech. I figured I was missing a civ that got it on the same turn, but I got Steam (Ottoman) and researched Ind,
I learned it, no one had steam, but me. I saw several cases where no one had a given tech, except me? So did I miss something or does it stop at some point. Is it not automatic and you just have a chance like SGL. It would make sense if a civ could only get one free tech for being first and only one SGL or maybe two for a game.
I did not find anything in the manual about the subject.
Thanks
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November 13, 2003, 21:28
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I don't recall ever reading that. The SGL, yes. Something like 2 or 3% prob of getting the SGL, IIRC.
I just played a game where I had the tech lead most of the game, even got Theory of Evolution...not one SGL
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November 13, 2003, 21:40
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Just the possible SGL for being first at a tech -- except for PHILOSOPHY, which gives 1 FREE tech if you're first to get it.
SGL probabilities are 3%, 5% for scientific.
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November 13, 2003, 21:46
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You get a free tech only if you are 1st to research Philosophy. Otherwise, being 1st only gives you a (small) chance of spawning a SGL.
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November 13, 2003, 22:08
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do you have to use the SGL before you can get another one, like the regular GL's??
[EDIT] Can you have a GL and a SGL at the same time?? [/edit]
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November 13, 2003, 22:38
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Of course if the civ you'r playing is a scientific civ you get a free tech at the beginning of each age - No announcement - no chance to influence it. - Code finally seems to be fixed for this though. - It used to default to the top of the tech tree - now it's random among the beginning techs of the age. - This also works for scientific AI civs. when I'm ahead I often give away the techs needed to bring a competing AI civ up to the new Age - I've got better than 50 50 odds that I don't have the tech they get, and then I can trade for it, (or at least antoher civ having it reduces my costs) - Also An appropriate gift of multiple Ancient age techs can make some AI Civ's very friendly for a while.
You can have multiple SGL's saved - and reports are that you can have an SGL and an MGL at the same time.
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November 14, 2003, 03:53
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Ok that makes sense, I must have misread the post. I have managed to get a few SGL and 6 MGL so far, but I have Science trait.
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November 15, 2003, 14:12
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I am wondering though if the first patch to conquests will remove the ability to stockpile SGLs.
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November 15, 2003, 15:37
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Is this really a problem? I think the most I have gotten so far is 4 and 3 were very late in the game, so they had no real impact.
If you were seeing more than 2 by the middle ages, that may be a concern. After late industrial, they are not such a big impact.
I say that because if you are piling them up at that point, you could build the wonders first anyway.
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November 15, 2003, 18:54
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I never get MGLs or SGLs regardless of how many technologies I'm first to discover or how many battles I win with elite units. I'm just 'lucky' like that.
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