December 4, 2003, 19:31
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Originally posted by Dominae
You forgot Radar Towers...
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That only applies to defense from aerial bombardment
However, that brings me to another point - an arty SOD will do nothing to that, because IIRC the defense of the unit is a factor in the chance of arty doing damage. One hit out of twenty are not good odds.
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December 4, 2003, 23:43
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Originally posted by skywalker
That only applies to defense from aerial bombardment.
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Huh? Radar Towers give +25% defense to all friendly units within its radius (land, sea, or air).
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December 4, 2003, 23:53
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Originally posted by Dominae
Huh? Radar Towers give +25% defense to all friendly units within its radius (land, sea, or air).
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I tested it after it first came out in PTW but can't find the thread in the PTW archive (and can't remember all the test results -- don't know if it was a bug, but believe it or not it didn't seem to give the bonus to air engagements of all things. But, yes, it does indeed give the 25% bonus (both offense and defense) to all land and sea units whether engaged in actual combat or bombardment, which may explain why the AI builds them everywhere.
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December 4, 2003, 23:55
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Originally posted by Catt
which may explain why the AI builds them everywhere.
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...and defends them!
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December 5, 2003, 00:01
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Originally posted by Dominae
Huh? Radar Towers give +25% defense to all friendly units within its radius (land, sea, or air).
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my bad, sorry
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December 5, 2003, 18:10
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Radar gives defense bonus to air? Not sure about that.
AI defense is light, 1 unit. I have yet to see a 2 unit defense.But on
the other hand, my 2-3 unit tower is usually ignored.
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December 5, 2003, 20:37
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Slowmover Armies, now at 2 moves, have retreat.
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December 6, 2003, 23:16
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Ummm, I think Armies heal in enemy territory without Battlefield Medicine.
Is it just me, or are not my last two observations insane??!!
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December 7, 2003, 01:15
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I have not noticed, but it could be true.
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December 7, 2003, 17:40
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Ah yes I was wondering why my 11 tank divisions were cleaning up the enemy so well. Thanks for the info
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December 7, 2003, 19:23
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Pillaging a Barricade Uses all Movement
Don't know whether by design or unintentional, but pillaging a barricade uses an army's entire remaining movement allowance (or any other unit's, for that matter), even if the barricade is in your territory.
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December 8, 2003, 10:53
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Originally posted by Catt
Pillaging a Barricade Uses all Movement
Don't know whether by design or unintentional, but pillaging a barricade uses an army's entire remaining movement allowance (or any other unit's, for that matter), even if the barricade is in your territory.
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I would imagine it would be by design, even reducing an unoccupied fortress would take considerable time and resources.
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December 8, 2003, 11:04
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Originally posted by Theseus
Ummm, I think Armies heal in enemy territory without Battlefield Medicine.
Is it just me, or are not my last two observations insane??!!
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Actually ANY unit will heal in enemy territory without Battlefield Medicine, it's just very, very slow for non-army units; not sure what the exact numbers are. Once you build Battlefield Medicine, the healing rate is bumped up to a HP/turn for non-army units.
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December 8, 2003, 11:33
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A note about the invincibility of armies:
A 3-knight army can STILL LOSE when attacking a veteran knight on a hill.
Happened to me this weekend...
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December 8, 2003, 11:43
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You mean your 3 knights weren't veterans? Or were they?
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December 8, 2003, 12:03
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Originally posted by Stuie
Actually ANY unit will heal in enemy territory without Battlefield Medicine, it's just very, very slow for non-army units; not sure what the exact numbers are. Once you build Battlefield Medicine, the healing rate is bumped up to a HP/turn for non-army units.
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No, you cannot heal in enemy territory w/o Battlefield med. You can heal in neutral or friendly territory at 1hp/turn/unit however. It is possible that armies can heal in enemy territory in C3C.
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December 8, 2003, 12:18
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Originally posted by MyOlde
You mean your 3 knights weren't veterans? Or were they?
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No, 2 elite and 1 veteran knights in an army vs. 1 knight (maybe veteran, perhaps elite) on a hill. The army was at either 11/14 or 10/14, and the knight on the hill was, I believe, wounded.
Regardless, the army keep losing out... I refused to accept reality, I kept attacking the knight, thinking angrily to myself, "Ce n'est pas possible. This is madness. This one shoddy knight is fighting back my ARMY of knights?". And I lost the army.
Moral of the story: It ALWAYS pays to be cautious.
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December 8, 2003, 22:09
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Got milk?
A thus far horse-less Mayan game... many, many MedInfs and Longbows provide for a formidable slowmover force.
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December 8, 2003, 22:17
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And god bless Firaxis again for sorted unit lists!! Look at that, it evens sorts the units in the Armies!
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December 8, 2003, 22:21
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Now if they would only put Zoom to City / Fortify option at the top of the list. It can be a real paint to scroll down a big list. Finding those arrows under stress iis not my fortay.
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December 8, 2003, 22:39
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It gets worse...
Poor Aztecs... I now have my first C3C 4xTank Army.
/me feels like a proud new father.
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December 9, 2003, 00:43
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Say hello to my little friend.
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December 9, 2003, 01:10
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Amy and I just watched the re-cut of Scarface.
"First you get the money... then you get the power."
Appropriate, I think.
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December 9, 2003, 11:03
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Originally posted by Mad Bomber
No, you cannot heal in enemy territory w/o Battlefield med. You can heal in neutral or friendly territory at 1hp/turn/unit however. It is possible that armies can heal in enemy territory in C3C.
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Here's the list of changes to the Civ3/PTW Epic Game Units.
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• Healing in enemy territory (healing amount is increased with the Small Wonder - Battlefield Medicine)
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http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...67#post2455467
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December 11, 2003, 09:47
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Ok. This was changed in C3C and I didn't get the memo...
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