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Old November 22, 2003, 11:24   #1
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Georgia
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/eu...sts/index.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3229266.stm

Dramatic.


Let's hope this ends without violence
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Old November 22, 2003, 11:31   #2
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I lived there for the first 5 years of my life. It used to be such a nice place.
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Old November 22, 2003, 11:33   #3
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It seems it's all because one grumpy old man wont let go.?
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Old November 22, 2003, 12:09   #4
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Maybe so... but the country is very much FUBAR, anyway.... it was so great to live there during the SU, now, it's falling apart....
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I thought Georgia was turning things around for the better. This isn't good to see.
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I don't get it. Shevarnadze was the good guy during the last years of the USSR.
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Old November 23, 2003, 13:53   #7
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I know, he was one of the masterminds behind the perestroika, but ended up a Caucasus version of Mugabe.

He has resigned now, btw
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He was always a f*****.
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Old November 23, 2003, 23:52   #9
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'Washington's State Department has called for calm in "reaching a compromise solution acceptable to all and in the interest of Georgia." '

Thats a great way to stall while they find Georgia on the map for Bush and explain to him its history.
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I remember a tv program about Georgia and one of its citizens claiming that it had two great sons in past century; Stalin and Shevarnadze
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Old November 24, 2003, 08:33   #11
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Damn, I hope none of our posters in Atlanta get hurt...
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To Bush and all the warmongers out there: Democracy and freedom can be realised without violence.
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Old November 24, 2003, 10:46   #13
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CNN had portrayed this as a bloodless revolution -- but will it actually bring about a more equitable democracy??


I guess time will tell -- unless the current government decides to use military brute force to begin the bloodshed.
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Will no one sing "the devil went down to georgia" right now?

The people wanted Shevarnadze gone, and it's nice to see bloodshed was averted.
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Because this kind of thing happens often?
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Georgia on your mind?

Take the midnight train down to Georgia and strike a deal with the Devil.
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I thought it was "Going to Carolina in my mind"
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I agree with Serb.

Georgia is an example of the dark side of the fall of the SU that the capitalists don't want you to see.
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Damn, I hope none of our posters in Atlanta get hurt...
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'Cause Shevardnadze was really a big capitalist...

The leftist Fez strikes again.
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Never liked the old bastard. What happened is in particular a result of his petty pet-state politics. It is sad though that he was ousted through a coup d'etat. It's even more sad that hardcore nationalists may come to power in this situation.
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I remember a tv program about Georgia and one of its citizens claiming that it had two great sons in past century; Stalin and Shevarnadze
One of them built a great empire, the other dismissed it.
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'Cause Shevardnadze was really a big capitalist...
Not sure about "capitalist", but he was really a big bastard...
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Because this kind of thing happens often?
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From time to time. Seeing scenes from Georgia reminded me of Belgrade a few years ago. Not to mention several bloodless revolutions after the fall of the Wall.

And it happends as often as Democracy that was brought by military intervention.
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the thing with shevardnadze of georgian infamy is that to me the name reminds me too much of scheherazade of arabian nights fame.
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When I am Russia in Civ 2 or 3, Tbilisi is always one of my favorite cities to build because it is fun to say. As rome i like building Cumae too for the same reason
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The fall of the SU brought pain and misery to a lot of people.
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