How would you change the end of your favorite movies?

Vesayen · November 29, 2003, 20:46

At the end of star wars 6, the rebels loose and luke dies

Post yours

Spiffor · November 29, 2003, 21:03

I care little for the end in a story. What I enjoy most is the epilogue: what happens to the universe in the long run (provided the universe is interesting).

I would change the epilogue of Nausicaa so that we can actually know the results of their action.

Monk · November 29, 2003, 21:44

The first thing that comes to mind is that I'd leave out the "What interests me is that it recorded approximately 18 hours of it" line in the movie Contact, thus allowing for an ending you could interpret as you wanted to.

JohnT · November 29, 2003, 22:51

I would change the entire ending of Contact starting with Eleanor's return from space. It was such a betrayal of the book and it's themes that I literally yelled "BULLSHIT" at the screen as the credits rolled.

It took me 4 months to convince Laura to come to another movie with me. But it was worth it.

Vesayen · November 29, 2003, 22:54

How did the book end? I never finished it.

Sava · November 29, 2003, 22:56

JohnT

JohnT · November 29, 2003, 23:17

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Originally posted by Vesayen
How did the book end? I never finished it.

Well, they took out a couple of important parts in the novel, but here goes:

When Ellie met her "father" she actually asked him if the aliens believed in God. He said that in the hundreds of millions of years that they've been investigating the universe, it seems obvious that it has been designed (he gives some examples of mathematical ratios, also claims that the "subway system" that Ellie went through is part of the original design) but they've yet to figure out who or why.

End of visit, Ellie and the others (dropped from the movie) get back to Earth where the same thing happens as in the movie: they don't seem to have gone anywhere, the recordings are blank, etc.

However Eleanor Arroway does NOT ask people to take her on faith - that is the entire point of the book, for Gods sake*. She doesn't come out and insist that she's correct: rather, she tells Palmer Joss

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"... if I had hard evidence, I'd speak up. But if I don't have any, people like Kitz will say that I'm lying. Or hallucinating...." (she hands him a manuscript detailing the voyage, JT) "...When we find what we're looking for, that manuscript will confirm our story. If we find evidence of a double black hole at the galactic center, or some huge artificial construction in Cygnus A, or a message hiding inside pi, this" - she tapped him lightly on the chest - "will be my evidence. Then I'll speak out."

Taking a hint from her "father" she programs her computer to factor Pi far beyond anything that mankind has attempted before. The book ends with the following passage:

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The Argus computer was so persistent and inventive in its attempts to contact Eleanor Arroway that it almost conveyed an urgent personal need to share the discovery.

The anomaly showed up most starkly in Base-11 arithmetic, where it could be written out entirely as zeros and ones. Compared with what had been received from Vega, this could be at best a simple message, but its statistical significance was high.

(Sagan then describes how the computer plots the numbers on a square raster and what the raster looks like - a bunch of 0's and 1's that, plotted correctly, form a circle.)

Hiding in the alternating patterns of digits, deep inside the transcendental number, was a perfect circle, its form traced out by unities in a field of naughts.

The universe was made on purpose, the circle said. In whatever galaxy you happen to find yourself, you take the circumference of a circle, divide it by its diameter, measure closely enough, and uncover a miracle - another circle drawn kilometers downstream of the decimal point. There would be richer messages futher in. It doesn't matter what you look like, or what you're made of, or where you come from. As long as you live in this universe, and have a modest talent for mathematics, sooner or later you'll find it. It's already here. It's inside everything. You don't have to leave your planet to find it. In the fabric of space and in the nature of matter, as in a great work of art, there is, written small, the artist's signature. Standing over humans, gods, and demons, subsuming Caretakers** and Tunnel builders, there is an intelligence that antedates the universe.

The circle has closed.

She has found what she had been searching for.

*yes, I know.
** "Caretakers" is the name that Ellie gave the aliens.

Sava · November 29, 2003, 23:20

JohnT

now I don't have to read the book to find out...

DaShi · November 29, 2003, 23:31

Yes, we all know the message hidden in pi is, "Sorry for the inconvenience."

Yeah, you heard me Stefu!

David Floyd · November 30, 2003, 00:13

I'd change the end of "The Stand" - I really loved the movie, except that I felt it got far to hokey and religious-esque towards the end. I just don't know how I would change it

JohnT · November 30, 2003, 00:32

However, The Stand was a book about an Apocalyptic event with religious implications - in short, in the novel it is never in doubt that God really is in charge of events in post-plague America.

David Floyd · November 30, 2003, 00:35

Well, that's fine, but having God explode a nuclear weapon in the middle of Las Vegas seems sort of a letdown. I dunno.

Nubclear · November 30, 2003, 00:37

Hmm...I don't watch many movies, and most of them have adequate endings, but...

In the Ring, I'd have the boy die

JohnT · November 30, 2003, 00:49

It's not a favorite movie by any means, but as in the novel, I wish that Thad Beaumont (the little boy) had died at the end of Cujo.

Sava · November 30, 2003, 00:53

you're almost as evil as me john...

JohnT · November 30, 2003, 00:57

Unhappy endings make for better movies, many times. The book wasn't anything special either, but it was a shock to find out the child died. Hell, Stephen King claimed that he didn't know the child was going to die until he was writing the scene, and when he found out what happened, he burst into tears.

Sava · November 30, 2003, 00:58

I agree... having the good guys winning all the time sucks. It's not realistic at all.

DinoDoc · November 30, 2003, 01:09

Was Cujo a demon?

JohnT · November 30, 2003, 01:21

No, he was a rabid St. Bernard.

Sava · November 30, 2003, 01:28

wrong... HE'S A GOALIE FOR THE DETROIT RED WINGS.... WHAHABBABHAWBHAWWH

DinoDoc · November 30, 2003, 01:30

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Originally posted by JohnT
No, he was a rabid St. Bernard.

Just that? Considering King wrote the book I'd always assumed more.

Inverse Icarus · November 30, 2003, 02:09

yeah, i've always invisioned one where the bad guys win. take something like when they blow up the deathstar by hitting that stupid pipe right on. they would hype it up just like they did, and about half way there, he gets picked off by a tie fighter, and then the deathstar shoots at some planet someones on, and the screen goes black.

buen~o.

The Emperor Fabulous · November 30, 2003, 02:20

Suicide Kings - End where Sean Patrick Flanery's character meets with his girlfriend. No need to go farther than that.

The Game - When Michael Douglass jumps off the roof, he indeed dies.

Vanilla Sky - Don't reveal ****ing EVERYTHING about the movie.

Inverse Icarus · November 30, 2003, 02:21

chop off the ending of AI: Artificial Intelligence when he stares at the fairy. no need to go into the alien crap. i hate spielberg.

Mr. Harley · November 30, 2003, 05:30

The animated flick "Wizards."

I was waiting for it to be an allegory about the beautiful elves taking all the best land while the dirty, no-good mutants get stuck with the wastelands. I found the ending mucho disappointing.

Instead of the stupid movie projector, I would have had Black Wolf, the bad half-brother, whipping his mobs into a frenzy after rotoscoping Hitler's mannerisms (when giving speeches) onto Black Wolf. Black Wolf is using a "Book of Wisdom" to lead the evil, mutant hordes.

When Avatar, the good guy alchoholic half-brother, pulls out the gun at the end and shoots Black Wolf, Black Wolf holds up his hand and, and the bullet splashes against some magical force shield. He laughs, and as he exits laughing, still holding his "Book of Wisdom" you see the title along the spine. "Mein Kampf." Go to credits.

Ben Kenobi · November 30, 2003, 05:35

End of the first matrix.

Let the robots resist the EMP through proper shielding. Watch as they slowly cut up the Nebuchanezzar.

Neo gasps and wakes up in his bed. He hears another knock on the door.

Zkribbler · November 30, 2003, 05:38

Amadeus - I'd have the body make-up guy show up on the day Mozart's death scene is filmed. If you watch the scene, his face and neck are a sickish grey but his chest is a healthy pink. Face make-up people aren't allowed to make up torsos. You need a body make-up person for that.

They Might Be Giants - At the end of the movie when Moriarity approaches, I would eliminate the clip-clop sound of the horse (sorry, AH). We have to know at that point that Dr. Watson has gone crazy. And there's no reasons to do the sun-rising wash out. It took me and me fellow students a half hour of debate to figure out what that was all about.

Braveheart - The half hour to hour portion after the big battle scene was wasted. Better to have Mel Gibson ride off into the pages of history as a legend.

Hueij · November 30, 2003, 06:57

They should replace the "all's well that ends well" ending of the Vanishing with the the Dutch original. Now that was scary...

yaroslav · November 30, 2003, 07:19

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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
End of the first matrix.

Let the robots resist the EMP through proper shielding. Watch as they slowly cut up the Nebuchanezzar.

Neo gasps and wakes up in his bed. He hears another knock on the door.

In the last matrix, I'd like to see AI beings destroying mankind after Neo's death

Vesayen · November 30, 2003, 11:24

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Originally posted by yaroslav

In the last matrix, I'd like to see AI beings destroying mankind after Neo's death

LOL yah!

Some of these are REALLY good-keep em up!