how would the t-1000 work?

self biased · December 15, 2003, 05:26

liquid metal? where's the power supply? the processor? how would a t-1000 work, anyway?

most likely, a colony of nanobots. any ideas?

discuss.

aaglo · December 15, 2003, 05:35

all the functions could be in a cell-sized 'sticky components'.... I guess

Nubclear · December 15, 2003, 05:37

THOUGHT CONTROL

KrazyHorse · December 15, 2003, 05:40

Chemical-powered nanocomponents which consist of a radio receiver/transmitter, manipulators and a simple processor/memory chip.

Az · December 15, 2003, 05:44

It wouldn't.

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KrazyHorse · December 15, 2003, 05:47

Who dat in your avatar anyway, Az?

Az · December 15, 2003, 06:06

aaglo · December 15, 2003, 06:12

red cross on a white background is never the best picture of anything...

unless it's describing a red cross on a white background...

Az · December 15, 2003, 06:15

SMARTASS.

Here she is.

Nubclear · December 15, 2003, 06:36

Ungodly

alva · December 15, 2003, 07:15

What!?, according to you, he made her..

Urban Ranger · December 15, 2003, 07:48

Quote:

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Ungodly

You certainly have strange tastes in women.

KrazyHorse · December 15, 2003, 07:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Azazel
SMARTASS.

Here she is.

What I meant was: can I have a name? I've never seen her other than in your avatar.

aaglo · December 15, 2003, 07:55

Azazel mentioned the name before, but the wiseass erased the name too (from that post)

DeathByTheSword · December 15, 2003, 09:20

and back to the subject

the t-1000 runs on 2 hydro(whatdoyacallit)fuelcells. and the central proccesor is in his head....never watched the movies?

KrazyHorse · December 15, 2003, 09:57

That's the T-1

The T-1000 is that "liquid metal" thingamajig that was the bad guy in number 2.

Urban Ranger · December 15, 2003, 12:30

It couldn't be liquid metal for sure.

Az · December 15, 2003, 13:58

The name is Louise Nurding.

Inverse Icarus · December 15, 2003, 14:27

definately nano-machines with a simple AI and simplistic electronic parts (of the time, which could be significantly more advanced than now), and some rudimentary ability to locomote (move).

since they're so small, they'll probably end up breaking off in "chunks", like the puddles you see in the movie. there would have to be some sort of field holding them together (i doubt they are physically latched together, as breaking apart would damage the equipment.

the only problem with this is that i still think getting shot would damage some of the nano-machines, eventually leading to his demise when he's shot over and over (he'd eventually lose "chunks" of himself). Perhaps the nano-machines have some sort of shielding.

self biased · December 15, 2003, 21:54

it would depend on how small the nano machines are.

DeathByTheSword · December 15, 2003, 23:55

no the t-2000 is the bad guy in 2....and the as far as i know is the t-1000 the the governer of california...the TX and the t-1 are from movie number 3

Urban Ranger · December 16, 2003, 00:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Uber KruX
definately nano-machines with a simple AI and simplistic electronic parts (of the time, which could be significantly more advanced than now), and some rudimentary ability to locomote (move).

since they're so small, they'll probably end up breaking off in "chunks", like the puddles you see in the movie. there would have to be some sort of field holding them together (i doubt they are physically latched together, as breaking apart would damage the equipment.

the only problem with this is that i still think getting shot would damage some of the nano-machines, eventually leading to his demise when he's shot over and over (he'd eventually lose "chunks" of himself). Perhaps the nano-machines have some sort of shielding.

Three major problems:

1. There's no way such an assembly will have any sort of mechanical strength at all.

2. Power. Since the thing does not run on fusion or any sort of power generator, it will stop functioning very quickly.

3. Intelligence. Such an assembly will not exhibit any degree of intelligence that starts to approach ours.

self biased · December 16, 2003, 00:08

okay... so we at least all agree that it could be done with nanomachines, right? now we just have to solve the problem of programming, cohesion, and power.

Urban Ranger · December 16, 2003, 00:09

I have only stated the 3 main ones, but go ahead

self biased · December 16, 2003, 00:14

are you mocking me, UR?

Inverse Icarus · December 16, 2003, 02:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Urban Ranger

Three major problems:

1. There's no way such an assembly will have any sort of mechanical strength at all.

2. Power. Since the thing does not run on fusion or any sort of power generator, it will stop functioning very quickly.

3. Intelligence. Such an assembly will not exhibit any degree of intelligence that starts to approach ours.

1. intense fields of some sort (electro-magnetic?) could be used to bind the nanobots together. why couldn't this be strong?

2. assuming controlled cold fusion is mastered, each nanobot could easily support itself.

3. each nano-bot in an of itself wouldn't be "intelligent", but "smart" enough to find other pieces and merge. when a critical number of nano-bots were merged, they could organize into something to allow a greater intelligence.

RUDIMENTARY EXAMPLE:

each nano-bot can store a 1 or a 0. alone, thats nothing. combined, they can express tons of things in binary code. throw in the ability to do simple boolean operations (AND, OR, NOT) and you get some really cool things from very little.

now think of that concept abstracted into something quite sophisticated. sure, one nano-bot is worse off than a palm pilot today, but when combined en masse, the possibilities get interesting.

ever see the "replicators" in Stargate: SG1?

Inverse Icarus · December 16, 2003, 02:39

REPLICATORS
Technologically advanced "bugs," Replicators are programmed by their creators with only one objective: self replication. Anything and everything that interferes with this plan of infestation, annihilation and duplication is immediately at risk.
The world where the Replicators originated is actually in our own Milky Way galaxy. A corrupt and childlike android, Reese, created the Replicators to be her "toys," but also capable of defending her from threats. As their creator, she also passed on to them her own design flaw. As the inhabitants of her world feared the toys, and tried to destroy them, she ordered them to "replicate at all costs." She quickly lost control, and the Replicators annihilated her civilization, and her own creator in the process. After the Replicators left, Reese went into a deep depression and deactivated herself.

Replicators are composed of hundreds of individual blocks, which are comprised of whatever substance the original Replicator has consumed. It is unclear how many blocks make up a standard Replicator, but two Replicators are required to make a third, and thus exponential growth. It takes only a few blocks to replicate new blocks, and in a few hours Replicators can breed from a handful into hundreds.

There are different kinds of Replicators, depending on what the creatures require to achieve their goals. The most common is the "spider" Replicator, with four legs and wing-like flippers on its dorsal side. Another Replicator is much larger and insect-like, appearing in the general shape of a giant fly. It also has four legs, but enormous "wings" allowing it to roll on its back when it lands on the floor, then righting itself. It can also leap great distances.

A third type of Replicator is an assemblage of many thousands of Replicator blocks, which comprise a single, story-tall mother Replicator, capable of siphoning, regulating and energizing an enormous amount of power. Logically, the mother Replicator may also coordinate the activities of all other Replicators.

Replicators generally operate in groups, but it is unclear how their social structure is organized, and there seems to be no apparent means by which they transmit and receive information to and from one another. Despite this absence of information, they are very effective at cooperating with each other to achieve their objectives. If need be, Replicator blocks can simply form a "wall" to block aggressors who would impede their objectives.

Goa'uld and other energy weapons are incapable of stopping Replicators, though the sheer force of such a blast does "halt" them for less than a second. Human weapons, which launch projectiles, are much more effective, causing the blocks to break apart from one another. However, this can only solve problems for a few moments; the Replicators reassemble with a vengeance and come again. Once shot a second time, the blocks do not tend to reorganize.

Generally, Replicators will not attack unless they are threatened. They can, in fact, clamor over and past an individual without a hint of malice; but once they are fired upon, a vengeful subroutine in the Replicator makeup emerges, and the creature becomes a serious threat. Their highly acidic "spray," used to help break down metal alloys to create new blocks, is deadly.

Replicators have been a serious threat to the technologically advanced Asgard empire, which has exhausted all unilateral options within their arsenal of ships and weapons. The Asgard have, on more than one occasion, come to Earth seeking help.

Recently the Asgard, through studying the android Reese, located an additional command within her: "Come forth." The Asgard used this command on every known Replicator throughout the galaxies, and once they were all gathered in one place (the Asgard home planet, Halla), the Asgard intended to activate a time-dilation device and trap the Replicators in a time bubble. Unfortunately, the Replicators reversed the device before it could be activated, allotting themselves hundreds of years (in a matter of normal days, relatively speaking) to consume every technological component on the planet and conserve energy -- evolving into humanoid forms, made up of microscopic nanites rather than blocks. SG-1 infiltrated this world and successfully reversed the device, but not before billions of Replicator blocks were forged, covering the entire surface of Halla, perhaps miles beneath as well.

The fate of the Replicators is still unknown, but the Asgard now theoretically have hundreds of years to solve their malfunction, as the Replicators remain trapped in a temporal bubble, inside which time is moving very slowly.

HOMEWORLD -
FIRST APPEARED - Nemesis

KEY EPISODE(S) -
Nemesis - SG-1 encounters the unstoppable enemy of the Asgard when Replicators bring Thor's ship to Earth in an effort to infest it.
Small Victories - A single Replicator survives the destruction of Thor's ship, and the team must destroy its new colony on board a Russian submarine. Meanwhile, Carter helps the Asgard stop an attack on one of their planets.
Enemies - Stranded in a distant galaxy, SG-1's only hope of defeating Apophis lies with the surprise arrival of the Replicators.
Menace - The team finds an advanced android alone on a desimated planet, and learn that Reese was the origin of the Replicators -- which she creates to take over the SGC and try to escape Earth.
Unnatural Selection - At the request of Thor, SG-1 takes the Prometheus into Asgard-infested territory to reverse a time dilation device so the bugs can be bottled-up indefinitely.

self biased · December 16, 2003, 03:10

not a big fan of the stargate series, to be honest Uber Krux.

as for cold fusion to power the beasties... how would you make a battery that small? the machines are more or less molecular, aren't they?

Inverse Icarus · December 16, 2003, 03:26

they dont have to be molecular. they could be roughly the size of an animal cell, no? complete with mechanical organelles (like mitochondria).

self biased · December 16, 2003, 03:32

possibly. but even a cell isn't very... small in terms of creating sharp objects like the t-1000.