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Old December 17, 2003, 18:53   #1
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oh, how crazy the world is.


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Malaysia is to consider using mass circumcision ceremonies to promote racial harmony.

Circumcision is a rite of passage for young Muslim boys, and in Malaysia it is common for the ceremony to become an event with dozens, or even hundreds of boys being circumcised together.

Now the prime minister's religious affairs adviser has suggested that circumcision can bring Malaysians of all races and religions together.

Dr Abdul Hamid Othman said that with the growing popularity of circumcision among the country's non-Muslim minorities - who see it as good hygienic practice - they too could be invited to join in the celebrations with their Muslim friends.

He believes the idea could promote better race relations and he wants to see a nationwide circumcision ceremony organised.

Just over half of Malaysia's population is Muslim, mainly members of the ethnic Malay community, while the country's Chinese, Tamil and tribal peoples follow a variety of other faiths.

The government has been exploring ways of stopping the different groups from drifting apart, including the introduction of a national service scheme which begins in February.




do you know how many animals i had to sleep with to get this fur coat?

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Animal rights advocates will single out small children at performances of ``The Nutcracker'' in the next few weeks by handing out fliers saying ``Your Mommy Kills Animals'' to youngsters whose mothers are wearing fur.

``Children can't look up to a mom in a battered-raccoon hat or a crushed coyote collar,'' said Ingrid Newkirk, president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. ``Maybe when they're confronted by their own children's hurt looks, fur-wearers' cold hearts will melt.''

The fliers include a color drawing of a woman plunging a large bloody knife into the belly of a terrified rabbit. The fliers urge kids to ``ask your mommy how many dead animals she killed to make her fur clothes.

``And the sooner she stops wearing fur, the sooner the animals will be safe. Until then, keep your doggie or kitty friends away from mommy - she's an animal killer.''

Brookline child psychologist Dr. Carolyn Newberger called the tactics ``terribly dangerous to children.''

``It's using children in the worst possible way,'' she said. ``If (the activists) want to legitimately work to protect animals from destruction for fashion, they have every right to. But to do so by targeting children and making them feel their mothers are murderers is absolutely unconscionable.''

Lisa Franzetta, a national coordinator for PETA, said the group will launch its ``fur-ocious'' protest at `Nutcracker' performances in as many as 20 cities across the United States.

Franzetta, who is based in California, said yesterday she did not yet know when the protests will begin in Boston, where ``The Nutcracker'' is playing at the Wang Center for the Performing Arts in the Theater District.

Franzetta acknowledged the anti-fur campaign might spark a backlash. ``It's definitely provocative, I will give you that,'' she said.

Wang Center officials could not be reached for comment about the planned protests.
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Re: oh, how crazy the world is.
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malaysians taking a cue from rev. moon
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Malaysia is to consider using mass circumcision ceremonies to promote racial harmony.
How is this any different from the unofficial policy in the US to circumcise newborns?
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because they're doing it mass ceremonies. like reverend moon and his weddings.
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I hate Rev. Moon.
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Old December 17, 2003, 19:00   #6
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1. I wanna make fur coat out of PETA. Ive enough dumb storeis about them.

2. Nothing better than snipping off penis to maintain harmony.... I love it. No more "my c0ck is bigger than yours" wars!
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Old December 17, 2003, 19:00   #7
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Damn Koreans, always trying to make us eat Kim Chee, even if it is tastey.
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I want to make a fur coat out of reverend Moon.
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There is no official promotion of circumcision in the USA. In fact, most medical societies discourage the practice. Medical opinion may change however if circumcision is found to be an effective means to reduce the transmision of HIV.
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I read an article yesterday saying that according to a Harvard biologist, creatures having sex would prevent parasites!! Funny theory, but it's actually remarkable that most species on earth have sexual reproduction rather than asexual..


not that it has anything to do with the topic but hey...
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Old December 17, 2003, 20:37   #11
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I read an article yesterday saying that according to a Harvard biologist, creatures having sex would prevent parasites!! Funny theory, but it's actually remarkable that most species on earth have sexual reproduction rather than asexual..
Not that funny a theory. It's the establishment theory as to why sexual repoduction is superior to asexual. Asexual reproduction produces, basically, clones. They're genetically identical unless something goes wrong, which means that they are much more vulnerable to infection. Sexual creatures, however, slightly randomize their genes, which means that it's unlikely that any one disease or parasite can get a species number and wipe it out.
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I see nothing wrong (strange, yes, but not wrong) with mass circumcisions if the non-Muslims want to do it. Anything that can bring a feeling of togetherness in a divided society is fine in my book, if it's not forced upon people.

I see something terribly wrong with the *******s who want kids to hate their mothers and to be afraid from them . I'd like to see what these *******s would think if their kids called them "murderers" all day long
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In other news today, some of the organizers of a recently held massive sex orgy in China have been sentenced to life in prison.

And John Cleese is apparently considering running for Mayor in Santa Barbara, California.

You may weep or giggle as you see fit.
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I prefer Cleese over Ahnuld though
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Doesn't Cleese live in London? Santa Barbara is a pertty liberal town for an old Tory like Cleese.
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There is no official promotion of circumcision in the USA. In fact, most medical societies discourage the practice. Medical opinion may change however if circumcision is found to be an effective means to reduce the transmision of HIV.
Are you saying that since I'm circumcised that I may not have to worry about getting HIV?
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I found this humorous...
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They shoulda asked me that question about the rabbits....I used to snare rabbits as one of my chores. They infested the area and made good stew for a rural family on a budget. WTF would she be messing around stabbing a rabbit with a knife? I had a little iron Wonderbar TM (a mini crowbar) perfect for my size and requiring little effort.

(snort) I bet these PETA people have never seen farm animals castrated either....damn kids today need toughening up.
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Doesn't Cleese live in London? Santa Barbara is a pertty liberal town for an old Tory like Cleese.
I lived in Santa Barbara for five years and let me tell you it is a conservative strong hold. The city is very rich and other then the college students and the latin migrants EVERYONE is a republican.

It has to do with housing costing so much so most of the population is very wealthy and very receptive to Republican tax cut proposals.
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Not that funny a theory. It's the establishment theory as to why sexual repoduction is superior to asexual. Asexual reproduction produces, basically, clones. They're genetically identical unless something goes wrong, which means that they are much more vulnerable to infection. Sexual creatures, however, slightly randomize their genes, which means that it's unlikely that any one disease or parasite can get a species number and wipe it out.
well, that and it feel so damn good.

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Are you saying that since I'm circumcised that I may not have to worry about getting HIV?
I presume he means if there is more than a statistical anomaly in the rate of infection between circumcised and non-circumcised. If circumcision cuts the transmission rate in unprotected sex by as little as 1% that would reduce the number of newly infected by thousands, in about 15-20 years time. Obviously no substitute for condoms, but thats not what the Doc is on about AFAIK.
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The World is indeed crazy.

This story is in the national news here in Denmark today. A 30 year old man was charged with having conned a 29 year old male student into attempting to rape a female acquaintance of his. According to police, the 30 year old posed himself on the Net as a 24 year old woman who lives in the same building he does. He made contact with the 29 year old and it was agreed that the student should visit the woman and stage a rape as a form of sexual role playing to arouse them both. The 29 year old was to look under the door mat outside the woman's flat, where he was to find a condom as a signal to carry on with the rape. However as he proceeded, the woman yelled and resisted so bitterly that the 29 year old finally figured out that something was wrong.

Rape by proxy, now there's a novelty.
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In other news today, some of the organizers of a recently held massive sex orgy in China have been sentenced to life in prison.
Are they all being held at the same prison?

We should tell PETA about the furries, and how they encourage children to wear the skins of animals. Then PETA can wage war on furries and furries can psychologically scar PETA to the point where they can no longer have sex. They'll destroy each other! It could work!
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We should tell PETA about the furries, and how they encourage children to wear the skins of animals. Then PETA can wage war on furries and furries can psychologically scar PETA to the point where they can no longer have sex. They'll destroy each other! It could work!
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Are you sure John Cleese is conservative? He was a member of the Monty Pythons after all.
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John Cleese has lived in Santa Barbara for quite awhile. He's very involved in the community and generally pretty liberal, especially as compared to the largely conservative Santa Barbara.
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Although I don't think people should wear fur coats, this is absolute madness.
(yeah yeah, I know, leather shoes and all that )
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The first article is wacko too IMHO.
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Are you saying that since I'm circumcised that I may not have to worry about getting HIV?
It may reduce the risk of infection by as much as 50%. That means that if you are circumcised your risk of being infected with the virus during a single sexual contact involving you penis and some orifice of an infected person's body would be half as much as if you had not been circumcised. In the US that might change the risk of infection during anal intercourse for the "pitcher" from 1:100 to 1:200. That doesn't mean you wouldn't have to worry about contracting AIDS, it simply means you have a little bit less of a chance of getting it. There are studies underway in Africa to better determine the value of circumcision in reduing the spread of AIDS, though. It's possible that the degree of risk reduction may be less, or even more, than previously thought.
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You so much as pull one of those flyers out in front of me and I will kick your ass from here to the moon. The circumcision thing is just bizzare.
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