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Old December 24, 2003, 01:32   #31
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Name me any game that has ever come out without needing a patch. It's a part of the PC world.

Beta is far better than waiting.
Far too true

But very appreciated
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Old December 24, 2003, 04:11   #32
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OK first of all THANKS FIRAXIS, BREAKAWAY AND ATARI!

Second I have some specific questions:

1. In MP games WITHOUT random Civs. Games that were started prepatch. Can you patch and still play those games?

2. In MP games WITH Random Civs. Games that were started prepatch. Can you patch and still play those games.

Thanks!
OK - tonight I reloaded and played a 6 player (all humans) MP epic game that was saved pre-patch. We didn't notice any ill effects and it played fine.

Not sure I like the change to the Forbidden Palace, although my tech progression and cash flow (in industrial era) seemed to be similiar to what it was pre-patch.
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Old December 24, 2003, 04:13   #33
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..and what are you still doing up at 3am in the morning Mo?


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Old December 24, 2003, 04:15   #34
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LOL Canuck! Ya like that beatin I put on ya with the Sipahis tonight?

Off to bed, now. Sweet Dreams!
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Old December 24, 2003, 11:53   #35
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Ah the other guys did all the work for ya anyway. :-)

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Old December 28, 2003, 18:21   #36
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Why exactly is this patch called 'Beta' ?

(I don't suppose it is named after Beta from Apolyton )
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Old December 28, 2003, 19:00   #37
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simple: the community wanted a patch with the most important bugs fixed (some of us even begged for it!), but the changes hadn't passed the quality tests needed to release it as an official "full" patch.

so it was declared beta and released.

perfect for us, because we got what we wanted (thanks again to all involved) and good for the programmers and publishers, because we havn't got the right to whine about new bugs because beta doesn't promise stability
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Old December 29, 2003, 12:02   #38
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Has anyone found anything unstable yet?
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Old December 29, 2003, 12:45   #39
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Why exactly is this patch called 'Beta' ?
Because it wasn't sent to their (Atari's and Firaxis')testers yet to see if it works.
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Old December 30, 2003, 13:20   #40
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It was sent to the Atari testers (had 19 testers last Monday & Tuesday and a smaller team the 3 weeks before) but without full localizations, release installer, and my being confident that it deserves a release stamp, I'm going to continue to use Beta as a Warning Label for now.
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Old December 30, 2003, 14:08   #41
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i like that idea
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Old December 31, 2003, 10:36   #42
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For some reason, I can't download the patch. Server busy, etc. Could someone (a nice person ) with a cable moden, ISDN, or something like that send me the patch by e-mail? I'm asking too much, I know, but...
aroeira @ ism . com . br (eliminate all the spaces - I'm trying to scape from the spam robots... )

Thanks in advance
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It's 14.7 MB. Can your mailbox handle that? (Can mine?)
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It's 14.7 MB. Can your mailbox handle that? (Can mine?)
Hi, BFM!
In my case, yes. I have a cable modem. In your case... In general, if you have a high-speed conection, your mailbox can handle it.
But I really can't tell... I don't want to crash your smtp provider or something.
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Old December 31, 2003, 13:08   #45
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aro, try different download locations. one is bound to have it
- the atari/infogrames location mentioned iin the first post
- http://apolyton.net/civ3
- http://civfanatics.com/

or several other places around the web
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Thanks a lot, sabrewolf!
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Old January 1, 2004, 16:59   #47
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Forgive my ignorance, Jesse (or anyone else who knows), but why would I want to "switch between versions"; and WHAT versions? Doesn't this patch go right into the game, replacing those things that are flawed or whatever?

Why wouldn't I just download the patch and execute it, same as any other patch?
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Old January 1, 2004, 18:22   #48
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Yes many of us would do it that way. A few reasons exist for being able to switch. People in MP games where others don't have access to the patch. You have problems with the patch and do not want to continue to use, it is after all a beta.
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Thanks vmxa1. I think I'll wait 'till January then.
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Thanks vmxa1. I think I'll wait 'till the tested patch arrives.
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Old January 2, 2004, 09:50   #51
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no, don't worry, this so-called beta patch is perfectly alright and is a lot less buggy then the previous, not-beta version.

the only instability issue is selecting random civ for multiplayer.

i think i can speak for most if i recommend this patch...

btw: the next patch mid january will be beta too according to jesse smith (see about 10 posts above). the first official patch will also be the final one a will come out around Q2/2004...

EDIT: after seeing that the corruption bug is still around, this post may seem a bit too positive
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jesse,

the corruption bug seems to not have been fixed in every case (see uberkrux's and my bug not in the 1.12b buglist thread.

please incorporate this fix in the next patch (january?) as priority 1, as most other bugs are minor.

thanks for all your work!
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Please see Dactyl's and my posts in the bug list for a not-so-minor complaint: disappearance of ability to build musketmen when we clearly have saltpeter source(s).
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I just got the expansion today...wondering if i haveto d/l the offical patch and install them 1st before i install the beta patch?
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The info here is misleading in some respects, since the new beta patch is standalone.

Everyone, if you are confused about the patches see:

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=106681

Just install Civ3, then Conquests, then the 1.15 patch for your language version.
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They upgraded the 1.15 to be inclusive. When it first came out you had to have all of the previous patches.
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