Thread Tools
Old January 8, 2004, 07:50   #331
Vince278
King
 
Vince278's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Amish Country
Posts: 2,184
Quote:
Originally posted by Serb

actually, we will bury you.

Quoting Khruschev again?
__________________
"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
2004 Presidential Candidate
2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)
Vince278 is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 07:52   #332
Vince278
King
 
Vince278's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Amish Country
Posts: 2,184
Quote:
Originally posted by Serb

It's a long story. He was tracked, but wasn't shot down. If we would shot him down what you'll be saying now? that evil Russkies killed another innocent soul?
Anyhow our air defence was greatly improved because of this case. Thanks to this fellow... ... don't remember his name.
Matthias Russ. Most of us thought he should have been shot down.
__________________
"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
2004 Presidential Candidate
2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)
Vince278 is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 07:53   #333
Vince278
King
 
Vince278's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Amish Country
Posts: 2,184
Quote:
Originally posted by The Vagabond
Do you equally salute the Americans who do the same?
Our dissent does not need to rise to that level.
__________________
"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
2004 Presidential Candidate
2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)
Vince278 is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 08:02   #334
Serb
Emperor
 
Serb's Avatar
 
Local Time: 22:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: of Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Posts: 3,345
Quote:
Originally posted by Vince278


The concept of honor appears to be lacking in Russia.
No, I have no doubts that our sailors would risk/risked their lives to save their brothers in arms. I just doubt that your sailors would put their lives in grave, extreme danger to save Russian sailors. First of all I doubt, they were able to do something with their equipment, to adobt it for our standard, to made it actually possible to enter Russian sub with their equipment created to perform rescue missions on NATO's subs, such adoptation greatly increase danger for recue team (I also doubt it is possible to make such adaptation within few days).
I just remebered that during Kursk's lifting operation there was a small scandal, because some foreign divers refused to fulfil their contracts because of extremely dangerous conditions.
__________________
Nu chto, podbrosish druga svoego zaklyatogo na svoem gorbu k vorotam raya zvezndo-polosatogo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNMZ3FvGx5c

Last edited by Serb; January 8, 2004 at 08:25.
Serb is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 08:10   #335
Serb
Emperor
 
Serb's Avatar
 
Local Time: 22:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: of Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Posts: 3,345
Quote:
Originally posted by Vince278


I still have to salute the courage of the Russians who stand up for what is right despite their country's beliefs.
Then you salute to our traitors/your spies.
And I salute to Americans who betrayed USA and shared secret info with Russians. Nice work guys.
__________________
Nu chto, podbrosish druga svoego zaklyatogo na svoem gorbu k vorotam raya zvezndo-polosatogo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNMZ3FvGx5c
Serb is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 08:16   #336
The Vagabond
Prince
 
The Vagabond's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: of realpolitik and counterpropaganda
Posts: 483
Hold out, Serb Sorry, I wasn't too much of help for you today.
__________________
Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.
The Vagabond is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 08:23   #337
Serb
Emperor
 
Serb's Avatar
 
Local Time: 22:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: of Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Posts: 3,345
It's OK. I can handle it myself...I guess, but help is always appreciated bro.
__________________
Nu chto, podbrosish druga svoego zaklyatogo na svoem gorbu k vorotam raya zvezndo-polosatogo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNMZ3FvGx5c
Serb is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 08:30   #338
Serb
Emperor
 
Serb's Avatar
 
Local Time: 22:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: of Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Posts: 3,345
Quote:
Originally posted by Vince278


Quoting Khruschev again?
Actually it's old Russian saying Khrushev just said it once and scared you to death.
Scary fellow, isn't he?
Attached Thumbnails:
Click image for larger version

Name:	khrushev.jpg
Views:	97
Size:	14.9 KB
ID:	61221  
__________________
Nu chto, podbrosish druga svoego zaklyatogo na svoem gorbu k vorotam raya zvezndo-polosatogo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNMZ3FvGx5c
Serb is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 08:32   #339
laurentius
Civilization II MultiplayerApolyton Storywriters' GuildACDG The Cybernetic ConsciousnessDiplomacyAlpha Centauri PBEMAlpha Centauri Democracy GameACDG Planet University of TechnologyNever Ending StoriesACDG PeaceACDG3 GaiansMacC4DG Team Alpha Centaurians
King
 
laurentius's Avatar
 
Local Time: 17:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: of genial epicuri
Posts: 1,570
Was he able to walk by himself or only after they pumped him full of meds? Or was that Breznev?
__________________
Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

- Paul Valery
laurentius is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 08:45   #340
Serb
Emperor
 
Serb's Avatar
 
Local Time: 22:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: of Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Posts: 3,345
Not only he was able to walk by himself, but even dance folk dances while knocking tables with boot he hold in his hand to provide some accompaniment for his dance.

They guy you are talking about is late Brezhnev. When he was an old fellow, he even wasn't able to swim by himself:
Attached Thumbnails:
Click image for larger version

Name:	brejnev.jpg
Views:	93
Size:	5.4 KB
ID:	61224  
__________________
Nu chto, podbrosish druga svoego zaklyatogo na svoem gorbu k vorotam raya zvezndo-polosatogo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNMZ3FvGx5c
Serb is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 08:48   #341
Saras
Emperor
 
Saras's Avatar
 
Local Time: 18:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Vilnius, Lithuania
Posts: 3,565
Quote:
Originally posted by Serb

Actually it's old Russian saying Khrushev just said it once and scared you to death.
Scary fellow, isn't he?
Where's the shoe?
__________________
Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb ! :doitnow!:
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.
Saras is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 08:50   #342
Serb
Emperor
 
Serb's Avatar
 
Local Time: 22:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: of Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Posts: 3,345
Censored by KGB to make him look even more scary.
__________________
Nu chto, podbrosish druga svoego zaklyatogo na svoem gorbu k vorotam raya zvezndo-polosatogo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNMZ3FvGx5c
Serb is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 08:53   #343
laurentius
Civilization II MultiplayerApolyton Storywriters' GuildACDG The Cybernetic ConsciousnessDiplomacyAlpha Centauri PBEMAlpha Centauri Democracy GameACDG Planet University of TechnologyNever Ending StoriesACDG PeaceACDG3 GaiansMacC4DG Team Alpha Centaurians
King
 
laurentius's Avatar
 
Local Time: 17:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: of genial epicuri
Posts: 1,570
Quote:
Originally posted by Serb
Not only he was able to walk by himself, but even dance folk dances while knocking tables with boot he hold in his hand to provide some accompaniment for his dance.
Hehe, those were wild years. Our president Kekkonen was a wild guy himself too, he even ad-hoc climbed to a palm tree during his state visit to Tunisia. I've heard both men were heave drinkers and loved to sauna for hours. Crazy people
__________________
Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

- Paul Valery
laurentius is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 09:04   #344
Serb
Emperor
 
Serb's Avatar
 
Local Time: 22:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: of Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Posts: 3,345
He killed brits and yanks, Strachwitz mainly rooskies.

Quote:
Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
So Strachwitz is the hero and Wittmann is the evil one...
F*ck you Drake. You're just an as$hole.
Consider it comes from millions of Russians who lost their lives fighting nazism.
F*ck you once again and be you damned, *****.


Ok, Ming I'm ready. How long this time? 7? 14?
__________________
Nu chto, podbrosish druga svoego zaklyatogo na svoem gorbu k vorotam raya zvezndo-polosatogo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNMZ3FvGx5c
Serb is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 10:22   #345
Drake Tungsten
Deity
 
Drake Tungsten's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the closet...
Posts: 10,604
Quote:
Consider it comes from millions of Russians who lost their lives fighting nazism.
While fighting for a regime that was just as evil as Hitler's...
__________________
KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!
Drake Tungsten is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 11:05   #346
dannubis
King
 
dannubis's Avatar
 
Local Time: 17:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Gent
Posts: 1,428
i bet a lot of people in the ME are saying that about the US right now ...
__________________
"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
dannubis is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 13:13   #347
el freako
Prince
 
el freako's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Bristol, European Union
Posts: 573
Quote:
Originally posted by Joseph
I do not trust the UN at all anymore. At one time I did like the UN but not for the last 20 or so years.
Trust has little to do with it.

So are you ready to concede that (using the US census data) your claim that the US had 35m more people than the USSR at the end of the cold war is backwards - meaning that the USSR had 35m more than the US did.
el freako is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 13:29   #348
Vesayen
King
 
Vesayen's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,251
Is it wrong if the pictures on these threads have aroused me, physically?
Vesayen is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 13:30   #349
Tattila the Hun
King
 
Tattila the Hun's Avatar
 
Local Time: 18:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Tornio, Suomi Perkele!
Posts: 2,653
Why not trust the UN? Because the US has declared it "irrelevant", if they don't "vote" as US wishes them?
__________________
I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"
Tattila the Hun is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 13:37   #350
Serb
Emperor
 
Serb's Avatar
 
Local Time: 22:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: of Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Posts: 3,345
Quote:
Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Quote:
Consider it comes from millions of Russians who lost their lives fighting nazism.
While fighting for a regime that was just as evil as Hitler's...
****ing revisionist.
__________________
Nu chto, podbrosish druga svoego zaklyatogo na svoem gorbu k vorotam raya zvezndo-polosatogo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNMZ3FvGx5c
Serb is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 14:21   #351
Patroklos
Emperor
 
Patroklos's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Back to sea, a lot less drinking :(
Posts: 6,418
So you deny that the Soviets killed 15 times more people?

Hell, they even managed to kill more innocent (non-combatant deaths) people from 1933-45 than the Nazis did.

You all were the the worse of two evils. The only reason you all can pretend you are imbued with some sort of virtue from WWII is because had to beat one of you at a time. Lucky for the world you ended up fighting each other for awhile (not for your people however). We got you too, though all of the perpetraters of your holocaust got away.

The only revisionist is you, as Russians are the only people who think of themselves as angelic fascist bashers. You acting inoccent is no more dispicable than a modern German claiming the Jewish holocaust never occured, good thing very few are that stupid.
__________________
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
Patroklos is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 14:23   #352
Patroklos
Emperor
 
Patroklos's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Back to sea, a lot less drinking :(
Posts: 6,418
Though I will say Nazi philosphy is much more repugnate than Communist, the numbers are so far against you that even that pails in comparison to the gruesome "accomplishments" of the Soviets.
__________________
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
Patroklos is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 15:16   #353
dannubis
King
 
dannubis's Avatar
 
Local Time: 17:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Gent
Posts: 1,428
ahem ...

stopping communism all over the world in the name of freedom killed also quite a few people i would say ...
__________________
"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
dannubis is offline  
Old January 8, 2004, 15:21   #354
Pekka
Emperor
 
Pekka's Avatar
 
Local Time: 18:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Xrr ZRRRRRRR!!
Posts: 6,484
Yes, we loved Stalin during those times. It's good that freedom defendors decided to free us from the evil hands of our leaders and bring us communism and in the way kill us all. Thanks

Fortunately that dind't happen.
__________________
In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.
Pekka is offline  
Old January 9, 2004, 00:38   #355
Joseph
King
 
Joseph's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Ca. USA
Posts: 1,282
Quote:
Originally posted by Serb

I've my doubts about it. I never heard a single T-80 was sold to Iraq. Can you give me a link about this story? No offence, but during last war in Iraq your media, sometimes was no better than Baghdad's Bob. I mean it reported that Basrah and Um-Quasar (sp?) were captured several times, when in fact they weren't. It reported that Iraqis 15th (iirc) division surrendered, when in fact it didn't. And the same crap.


You didn't answer the question. What is the source of your information?
The Press and TV was reporting it at the time. No picture that I know about.

Quote:
Good. Iwas trying to joking.

Su-30 isn't a naval version, it's multi-purpose fighter.
Su-33 is naval version (aircarrier based).
Su-34 it's fighter-bomber.
Su-32FN it's a naval modification (to destroy naval targets) of Su-34.
Su-37 it's modification of Su-35 (Super Flanker) multi-purpose fighter.
Su-39 it's something that we Russians call "Shturmovik" (support bomber?)
Su-47 it's fighter of fifth generation with forward-swept wings.
You are right, I look at my book again last night. Here we do it a difference way.

Here SU-27A =Su-27
SU-27B = SU-30
SU-27C = SU-33
SU-27D = SU-34/32
SU-27E = SU-37
SU-27F = SU-39 The all share the same airframe.

The SU-47 would be given a new number as SU-28 or 29 meaning a new plane.

Quote:
We knew it after few hours.


How? Even if you had an equipment needed to save sailors from submarine:
1) It was in USA, thousands miles away. Preparations would take several days anyway.
2) If you can save trapped sailors from American subs, it doesn't mean you can save sailors from Russian subs, because our subs have different construction.


Yes, I saw it. This movie is the best of everything what Hollywood made about Russians. Sure it was inaccurate and sometimes silly, but I like it anyway.


It's not surprising. I heard now any foreigner should make a finger tip scan when he arrives in USA.
Our DSRV can be anywhere in the world in 24 to 36 hours. Just believe me, we knew where your boat was. Some years ago there was suppose to be talks between your people and ours about making the hatch area the same on your and ours boat's so we could save people in this type of situation.

At our airport all they do is take a picture and a fingerprint, then you go on your way.
Joseph is offline  
Old January 9, 2004, 00:52   #356
Vince278
King
 
Vince278's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Amish Country
Posts: 2,184
Quote:
Originally posted by Serb
I just remebered that during Kursk's lifting operation there was a small scandal, because some foreign divers refused to fulfil their contracts because of extremely dangerous conditions.
There's a big difference between a rescue mission and a recovery mission. One might be willing to risk oneself to save a fellow sailor, even a Russian sailor, but it may not be worth risking yourself to try to raise just a wrecked ship.
__________________
"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
2004 Presidential Candidate
2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)
Vince278 is offline  
Old January 9, 2004, 00:56   #357
Lonestar
inmate
King
 
Lonestar's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: The 3rd best place to live in the USA.
Posts: 2,744
Quote:
Originally posted by Serb


F*ck you Drake. You're just an as$hole.
Consider it comes from millions of Russians who lost their lives fighting nazism.
F*ck you once again and be you damned, *****.


Ok, Ming I'm ready. How long this time? 7? 14?

Stalinism ain't that much better than Nazism, buddy. Too bad we didn't let Patton do his thang and lead the new drive to Moscow.
__________________
With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worth while, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: "I served in the United States Navy!"
"Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I ****ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective." --Barack Obama
Lonestar is offline  
Old January 9, 2004, 00:57   #358
monkspider
Civilization IV: MultiplayerCivilization IV CreatorsGalCiv Apolyton Empire
King
 
monkspider's Avatar
 
Local Time: 10:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Wichita
Posts: 1,352
Yeah, and Patton would have gotten his ass-kicked. Don't let your Civ games fool you.
__________________
http://monkspider.blogspot.com/
monkspider is offline  
Old January 9, 2004, 00:59   #359
Joseph
King
 
Joseph's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Ca. USA
Posts: 1,282
Quote:
Originally posted by monkspider
Yeah, and Patton would have gotten his ass-kicked. Don't let your Civ games fool you.
You did not know Patton..
Joseph is offline  
Old January 9, 2004, 01:00   #360
monkspider
Civilization IV: MultiplayerCivilization IV CreatorsGalCiv Apolyton Empire
King
 
monkspider's Avatar
 
Local Time: 10:12
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Wichita
Posts: 1,352
Quote:
Originally posted by Joseph
You did not know Patton..
Says who?
__________________
http://monkspider.blogspot.com/
monkspider is offline  
 

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:12.


Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Apolyton Civilization Site | Copyright © The Apolyton Team