Are the Japanese culturaly isolated online? - Page 2

General Ludd · December 31, 2003, 08:13

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Originally posted by mrmitchell
The Viceroy

He's British living in India, I believe.

Nubclear · December 31, 2003, 08:26

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Originally posted by Osweld

He's British living in India, I believe.

Is he?
That would explain many things.

Theben · December 31, 2003, 09:51

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Originally posted by Gatekeeper
This thread made me switch to the MoO3 colorset. Groovy, dudes.

Hah! Another convert.

laurentius · December 31, 2003, 10:35

Yeah, more japanese would be nice. Indians would be ok too, but what this place really needs are pakis

lord of the mark · December 31, 2003, 11:26

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Originally posted by Oncle Boris
I suspect the absence of posters from Japan might be due to the fact that Japan is a large country, and one of the most online-enabled to boot. Their own Internet community is sufficient to provide for all their needs- which is not the case of many other countries, whose surfers end up learning English and joining the Western/English part of the Internet.

I believe we see a similar trend with the Americans: there are very few American posters in non-English discussion boards throughout the web.

Yup. I keep thinking i should go to french boards to polish my french, but never do.

Tattila the Hun · December 31, 2003, 11:35

I should finnish my polish. x)

Anyone here speak japanese? Compared to other foreign (to non-native speaker) lanquages, is it hard to learn?

C0ckney · December 31, 2003, 11:38

mrmitchel, osweld - i think the viceroy is an englishman, living in england, married to an indian bird

Wraith · December 31, 2003, 11:56

--"Well you know things are bad when the Koreans mock the Japanese for having bad English."

Heh. I haven't seen that, but it does bring up a point about face. The ones that do post on English forums are going to be the ones pretty confident in their English knowledge.

We don't have many Chinese posters around either, do we?

--"Anyone here speak japanese? Compared to other foreign (to non-native speaker) lanquages, is it hard to learn?"

I speak a little. It's actually fairly straightforward compared to most other languages I'm at all familiar with (overall it's simpler than French or Spanish, except as far as the subtleties of politeness levels go). The big problem comes when you're trying to read and write it, which is very difficult, and why there probably aren't many non-Japanese posting on Japanese language forums.

Wraith
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Shogun Gunner · December 31, 2003, 11:57

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Oncle Boris · January 1, 2004, 01:04

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Originally posted by lord of the mark
Yup. I keep thinking i should go to french boards to polish my french, but never do.

Not that I want to patronize you, but it would be a very nice thing to do. It's the Internet that taught me English from the beginning.

notyoueither · January 1, 2004, 01:26

You'll move on to fundamental ability to reason next, right?

JimmyCracksCorn · January 1, 2004, 02:01

The Japanese are not culturally isolated. Just go play Gunbound and they're all over it.

http://www.gunbound.net

JIMBO STRONG!

Sarxis · January 1, 2004, 02:10

I was listening to an online friend talk about the way Japanese play Tribes2. From what I gathered from that discourse, they have very different ways of doing things online.

Drake Tungsten · January 1, 2004, 02:16

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Well you know things are bad when the Koreans mock the Japanese for having bad English.

I wouldn't believe everything that the Koreans tell you, especially when the subject is Japan...

Oncle Boris · January 1, 2004, 02:18

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Originally posted by notyoueither
You'll move on to fundamental ability to reason next, right?

I don't need no Poly for this

FrustratedPoet · January 1, 2004, 05:53

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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I wouldn't believe everything that the Koreans tell you, especially when the subject is Japan...

Agreed. I know that some of the stuff I've been told is total nonsense and I don't even know much about Japan.

Bosh · January 1, 2004, 10:10

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i don't know of a korean korean who posts.

Isn't Yin Korean?

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Heh. I haven't seen that,

Apparently Japanese tend to add even more vowels at the end of works and to break up English clusters of consonants than Koreans do, which is saying a lot (ie my kids mock their public school english teacher for saying noh-tu-bu-ku for notebook).

Spiffor · January 1, 2004, 10:32

In the Civ3 on-topic, Aneeshm waves an Indian flag. I'd assume he's really Indian. Also, there is a guy called Rush in the on-topic who seems to be from Japan, although I've seen him float another flag (Singapore?) last time I've seen him.

The Mad Monk · January 1, 2004, 11:50

I think Phoenixcager is a native Singaporean.

In another thread (a darkcloud thread on poster's origins something over a year ago), he noted Rush as being part of the "Singapore contingent".

edit: okay, it was a flag thread, and he simply mention that Rush has a Singaporean flag...linky

Wraith · January 1, 2004, 11:57

--"Apparently Japanese tend to add even more vowels at the end of works and to break up English clusters of consonants than Koreans do"

The people complaining about this may be not quite understanding something ^_^ The Japanese language includes a lot of import words, and a lot of them are from English. However, the Japanese language is structured differently than English; the only stand-alone consonant is n. Which, of course, means that the vast majority of their words will end in vowels, including imported ones. This is also probably where they're getting the breaking up cnosonants bit from. Almost no Japanese words will have more than two consonants in a row (three would seem possible, but I don't know of any off-hand). Considering the language is based on sylables rather than individual letters, this shouldn't be surprising.

Wraith
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The Mad Monk · January 1, 2004, 15:16

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Originally posted by C0ckney
mrmitchel, osweld - i think the viceroy is an englishman, living in england, married to an indian bird

I'm not entirely sure -- this post, and one above it, seem to indicate that he is in India.

Of course, please disregard if you live down the road from him or something.

C0ckney · January 1, 2004, 15:20

well i always thought he was in newcastle, i could be wrong though.

oh, i also think you're more likely to find two pakistani muslims in any UK city, than in bombay

The Viceroy · January 1, 2004, 15:28

Is there anyone from India here?

Yep .. Im actually Brit that lives in India and UK .. however ive seen a few Indians about on poly.

For the record ..

Currently in Reading, UK .. but also live in Bombay .. and yes, married to an Indian from Bombay

The Viceroy · January 1, 2004, 15:30

Any what does that explain Comrade Tassadar ??

The Mad Monk · January 1, 2004, 15:38

Nothing explains Tass.

Thanks for the clarification!

laurentius · January 1, 2004, 16:48

So wich one is it Mumbay or Bombay?

The Viceroy · January 1, 2004, 18:32

Mumbai is its new name, however most locals would call it Bombay still. There is a real love hate relationship with the new name. Younger people tend to like it, older ones don't .

The Mad Monk · January 1, 2004, 23:19

Why was it changed?

Bosh · January 1, 2004, 23:28

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Considering the language is based on sylables rather than individual letters, this shouldn't be surprising.

Its not surprising, it just makes for badly-pronounced English. Korea is similar but not quite so bad since it has some syllables that are Consonant-Vowel-Consonant (although only certain consonants seem to turn up at the end of syllables) so Koreans aren't quite as bad in this regard as Japanese.

Spiffor · January 2, 2004, 01:39

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Originally posted by lord of the mark
Yup. I keep thinking i should go to french boards to polish my french, but never do.

I must admit, I cannot break away from 'Poly to join a French or German forum too