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Old December 31, 2003, 00:30   #1
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For King and Country
Ok, I have decided to start on a set of scenarios about the history of England and Great Britian, currently titled: For King and Country.

I think the first scenario should be post-Roman Empire, what do you think?

I will need a lot of help, as most of the scenarios I have done are very bad.
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Old December 31, 2003, 00:42   #2
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Would anyone have a good warrior from the 400s A.D.
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Old December 31, 2003, 01:32   #3
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I'd go with post Norman invasion. That was the last time Britain was conquered.
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Old December 31, 2003, 01:40   #4
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Maybe, but, considering my, and the internet's, absolute lack of knowledge, when, after the Romans withdrew, was England unified?
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I'd go with post Norman invasion. That was the last time Britain was conquered.
That was the last time Britain was conquered - provided you ignore a couple of times during the Wars of the Roses and the glorious revolution!

I'd start with the arrival of the anglo saxons. There are some good dark age units in the scenario about the Roman Empire - Justinian the Great I think it's called. It also has some good dark age ciry graphics.

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England was never fully unified until Norman conquest. As I remember it, Alfred the Great was one of the most influential and strongest kings before 1066, but he also had Canute and a few other smaller kings to deal with. Alfed ruled over a good portion of the Anglo Saxons, but not all.
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The Anglo-Saxons arrived in the 500's right?
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The Anglo Saxons (et al) arrived in the late 400s (IIRC). If you believe Bede, they were called in by the Romano British as mercenaries and decided it was a nice place to settle. Between then and the arrival of the Normans, most of Eastern England was conqured by the Danes and the Vikings held some teritory around York (Jorvik). Are you planning to include Scotland, Wales and Ireland?

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Old December 31, 2003, 02:29   #9
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Maybe, I am not so sure for the beginning. In later scenarios, I will have to.
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OK, England was unified in 1066 by William the Bastard/Conqueror of First

Wales Was Pacified bf Edward I (Longshanks) in about 1250

Scotland was pacified (but not fully), by Edward I, later.

Scotland continued to be a problem until 1602, when James I of England, and the VI of Scotland came to power.

Scotland formally joined England in 1701.
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how about a scenario at the time of the seven (conveniently) kingdoms?
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LOL!

Scotland only joined the union to get access to English beer!

Grand to see a potential scenario series about Britain!
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England was never fully unified until Norman conquest. As I remember it, Alfred the Great was one of the most influential and strongest kings before 1066, but he also had Canute and a few other smaller kings to deal with. Alfed ruled over a good portion of the Anglo Saxons, but not all.
England had been unified for many years before the Norman Conquest, I think under one of the kings of the House of Wessex, Edgar, who unified the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms of Wessex, Mercia, Northumbria and the Danelaw in the mid 10th Century. Alfred reigned over most of a unified Anglo-Saxon kingdom, with the exception of the Danelaw in parts of the North and East; BTW, he was king in the last part of the 9th Century whereas the Danish king Canute took the throne of England in about 1015 or 1016 IIRC.

When the Normans invaded England was a unified state under Harold I.
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OK, England was unified in 1066 by William the Bastard/Conqueror of First

Wales Was Pacified bf Edward I (Longshanks) in about 1250

Scotland was pacified (but not fully), by Edward I, later.

Scotland continued to be a problem until 1602, when James I of England, and the VI of Scotland came to power.

Scotland formally joined England in 1701.
Scotland was an entirely separate kingdom until the accession of James I/VI in 1603. It was still officially a separate kingdom until the Act of Union in 1707, not 1701. Sorry to be a know-all but I did Tudor and Stuart history at A-level, so these useless facts are burned into my brain
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Yeah, I haven't done this period since Year 7, and I don't have to for GCSE.
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England had been unified for many years before the Norman Conquest, I think under one of the kings of the House of Wessex, Edgar, who unified the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms of Wessex, Mercia, Northumbria and the Danelaw in the mid 10th Century. Alfred reigned over most of a unified Anglo-Saxon kingdom, with the exception of the Danelaw in parts of the North and East; BTW, he was king in the last part of the 9th Century whereas the Danish king Canute took the throne of England in about 1015 or 1016 IIRC.

When the Normans invaded England was a unified state under Harold I.
Ah ok, my English history lessons started around William
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So, POTUS, have you came to a choice on when to set this epic?
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Give me a few days to look up everything that was just mentioned, so I can decide where to start. Maybe as a mutiplayer scenario starting in 1066.
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Ok. I think this will be a mutiplayer scenario on the events of 1066.
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Brits suck!

Why in heaven would one want to waste his energy and make a scenario about them?

I mean the only good thing ever to come out of that island is Austin Powers.
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I mean the only good thing ever to come out of that island is Austin Powers.
...and all the criminals they transported to Australia between 1788 and 1850

As the joke goes, Australia was colonised by people handpicked by the best judges in Britain
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England had been unified for many years before the Norman Conquest, I think under one of the kings of the House of Wessex, Edgar, who unified the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms of Wessex, Mercia, Northumbria and the Danelaw in the mid 10th Century. Alfred reigned over most of a unified Anglo-Saxon kingdom, with the exception of the Danelaw in parts of the North and East; BTW, he was king in the last part of the 9th Century whereas the Danish king Canute took the throne of England in about 1015 or 1016 IIRC.

When the Normans invaded England was a unified state under Harold I.
According to Lacey (Great Tales from English History - which I happened to get as a Chrissie present) England became unified in 924 when Athelstan became king of both Wessex and Mercia. This should be verifiable in the Anglo Saxon chronicle which is probably on-line somewhere. Athlestan's grandfather - Alfred the Great - was only king of Wessex, Mercia remained a separate kingdom at that stage.

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I mean the only good thing ever to come out of that island is Austin Powers.
We also managed to produce Bob Hope and Charlie Chaplin - not to mention Catherine Zeta Jones. I'd also vote for cricket, but sadly nowadays the rest of the world seems to be rather better at it than we are. And surely the world's first programmable computer deserves a place somewhere in the list of good things to come out of Britain.

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along with Chobham armor.

and the The Spice Girls.
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Alright, back on topic...

POTUS, what will the map look like? British Isles or North Sea/Northern Europe? Something bigger?
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Ok, the map will be England, Normandy, Wales, Scotland, parts of the North Sea, and a small piece of Ireland. The civs will be England under Harold, the Vikings under Haralad Haldrane (is that how you spell it?), and of course, the Normans under William. Then, the neutrals will there, maybe split up between Wales and Scotland. Who ruled over Scotland and Wales?

Finally, you will have the possibility for a civil war if the lords see that Harold will be defeated. So, therefore I will need to know the names of some prominent lords.

You will be able to research techs like: "Call up the feudal levies" (England), getting more, weak troops; "install civil administrators" (Normans and Vikings upon conquering parts of England) allowing you to build units in England. etc.
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Hi Everyone!

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Well, if I'm right, the Norway(Vikings) king was Harald III Hardraada (forget what that means ;-) ), for the Scots I'd like - as a taste of poetry - MACBETH of Moray (real king of Scotland between 1040 and 1057, when he was defeated and dead at Lumphanan...). May it go???
Wales... well... Llewellyn apGruffydd's grandaddies, I suppose...

England can't teach about food , but I think had given other importants peoples and things... Who? What?
This is another tale...

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Brits suck!

Why in heaven would one want to waste his energy and make a scenario about them?

I mean the only good thing ever to come out of that island is Austin Powers.
LOL!

Austin Powers?
The Greek sense of irony strikes again!
It's an awful series of films!

Hey!
We made the Spitfire and Judas Priest, surely they are worth some street-cred?

Sorry to be off topic, but as a Brit I felt obliged to post!

Nice one, Pericles!
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Most of the world is civilised because of Britain (especially Scotland), India, Japan, China, N America, Ireland, S Africa, East Africa, and it was Britain who stood alone against Hitler.
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