Who would win? 1942 Germany vs. 2001 France? - Page 3

Tripledoc · January 1, 2004, 18:47

Actually there is a very good reason to be critical of France. Well, not exactly France, but how French culture has in many regards achieved a truly imperial status, when it comes to defining and at the same time sanctioning the rich bourgousie across the world. The problem with the current discourse is that is, as stated mainly employed in a fashion that seems to me is very much designed to prevent class warfare, and instead give primitive nationalism a bone.

Evil Knevil · January 1, 2004, 18:48

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wahh wahh wahh. It's ok to piss and moan about your big brother. But when he makes fun of little Pepe le Peu, you get all hurt.

WAAAAAAAH!

Grow a nut, people.

Maybe you should try and find a way of moving that set of dick and balls from your forehead and putting them between your legs, before you lecturing people.

I understand it was a joke. A joke that's been repeated about a hundred times. It's boring. It's irritating. It's wrong.

Imran Siddiqui · January 1, 2004, 18:52

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I understand it was a joke. A joke that's been repeated about a hundred times. It's boring. It's irritating. It's wrong.

If its boring, don't listen to it

. If it's irritating, don't listen to it. How is it 'wrong'?

Dauphin · January 1, 2004, 18:53

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Originally posted by Tripledoc
The main problem is, I guess, with the Anglo-Saxon psyche which is greatly predisposed to militarism, which is why they have always regarded the Germans in a high regard.

How do you reach the conclusion that the Anglo-Saxon psyche is greatly predisposed to militance?

Dauphin · January 1, 2004, 18:58

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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

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I understand it was a joke. A joke that's been repeated about a hundred times. It's boring. It's irritating. It's wrong.

If its boring, don't listen to it

. If it's irritating, don't listen to it. How is it 'wrong'?

WW1:

British and French shoot, Germans duck
Germans shoot, British and French duck
Americans shoot, everybody ducks.

It is a great misconception that Italian tanks were of inferior design during WW2. In fact the Italian tanks were the only once to have 6 gears as standard. One forward and five for reverse.

Any more nation-bashing war jokes? Hear about the one where Iraqi soldiers surrendered to a US journalist?

TCO · January 1, 2004, 18:59

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Originally posted by Evil Knevil

Maybe you should try and find a way of moving that set of dick and balls from your forehead and putting them between your legs, before you lecturing people.

I understand it was a joke. A joke that's been repeated about a hundred times. It's boring. It's irritating. It's wrong.

How's that Scientologist expose coming? yeah...I agree it's trite. But the SHOCK...the horror at seeing this kind of stuff coming back when we take it all the time. Well...bite me. *****.

Evil Knevil · January 1, 2004, 19:02

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Originally posted by TCO
yeah...I agree it's trite.

That's all I wanted, thanks!

It's not being published. I lost my job a couple of months back in any case.

TCO · January 1, 2004, 19:03

sorry about the job.

Imran Siddiqui · January 1, 2004, 19:03

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WW1:

British and French shoot, Germans duck
Germans shoot, British and French duck
Americans shoot, everybody ducks.

That's not just a WW1 joke

.

TCO · January 1, 2004, 19:08

Duck...we are the badazzes of the battlefield.

Tripledoc · January 1, 2004, 19:10

How do I reach the conclusion that the Anglo Saxons are predisposed towards militarims? Well one thing is for instance Baden Powell. He was a spy for the English during the Boer War. Later he created the Boy Scout movement, which in turn became a model for many boy scout organisations, including the Hitler Jugend. The second thing is the whole elitist educational system developed by the Anglo-Saxon educational system. For instance Eton, where military training has a big role to play. But also other schools were militarized, including Oxbridge. The perfect expression of this is the movie "IF", were British bording students violently rebel against the overly militarized and religious educational system.

Also you can see it has been the elitist Ivy League universities who have defined and made the rules for such sports as basketball, American football, and so on. Today it seems to me that this, while is is of course "only sports", has served the purpose of making militarized anglo-saxon culture a key element of the American educational system. People often forget that this key element is the result of a top down influence, and that the recent excursions towards multiculturalism is perhaps a reaction towards that dominance.

Heresson · January 1, 2004, 19:11

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara

I know. Sad really. Without France, there'd be no United States.

Hm, that's just another reason to dislike the French, isn't it...

Tripledoc · January 1, 2004, 19:18

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Originally posted by Big Crunch
Any more nation-bashing war jokes? Hear about the one where Iraqi soldiers surrendered to a US journalist?

Seemed to me that the journalists at the front were an integrated part of the war machine, so why not?

Sava · January 1, 2004, 19:34

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Originally posted by skywalker

@ spiffor

France's military may be better, but as Spiffor pointed out in another thread, it was better in WW2 as well. It was just in the wrong place.

France's military capabilities were NOT better than Nazi Germany's in WW2. They had more tanks, yes... but they were poorly deployed and much more inferior to German tanks... same with aircraft... small arms... and artillery.

Nubclear · January 1, 2004, 19:36

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Originally posted by TCO

A little self-examination circle would be nice for a start. First topic, how your mother was a whore...

I suppose that would make us stepbrothers

[/Highschoolinsults]

Whoha · January 1, 2004, 19:45

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Originally posted by Big Crunch

WW1:

British and French shoot, Germans duck
Germans shoot, British and French duck
Americans shoot, everybody ducks.

now that one is pretty good.

DAVOUT · January 1, 2004, 19:58

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Originally posted by C0ckney
be proud of your english heritage, hate the french!

I can only forgive you if your English heritage leads you to hate the French. We love our French heritage, not because of hatred toward some foreign tribe, but basically because it speaks about the French; this attitude is sometimes named arrogance.

[Answering to French bashing mode]

As there were complaints from dedicated French bashers, that French bashing was not funny when it was not answered in kind, we have established a permanence to provide this necessary service.

[/Answering to French bashing mode]

DinoDoc · January 1, 2004, 20:03

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Originally posted by Big Crunch
It is a great misconception that Italian tanks were of inferior design during WW2. In fact the Italian tanks were the only once to have 6 gears as standard. One forward and five for reverse.

I thought that was a French joke.

TCO · January 1, 2004, 20:11

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Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar

I suppose that would make us stepbrothers

[/Highschoolinsults]

Why aren't you carrying your little book.

TCO · January 1, 2004, 20:13

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Originally posted by Tripledoc
How do I reach the conclusion that the Anglo Saxons are predisposed towards militarims? Well one thing is for instance Baden Powell. He was a spy for the English during the Boer War. Later he created the Boy Scout movement, which in turn became a model for many boy scout organisations, including the Hitler Jugend. The second thing is the whole elitist educational system developed by the Anglo-Saxon educational system. For instance Eton, where military training has a big role to play. But also other schools were militarized, including Oxbridge. The perfect expression of this is the movie "IF", were British bording students violently rebel against the overly militarized and religious educational system.

Also you can see it has been the elitist Ivy League universities who have defined and made the rules for such sports as basketball, American football, and so on. Today it seems to me that this, while is is of course "only sports", has served the purpose of making militarized anglo-saxon culture a key element of the American educational system. People often forget that this key element is the result of a top down influence, and that the recent excursions towards multiculturalism is perhaps a reaction towards that dominance.

Does your ass get chapped from eating nachos? Sheesh. Taking on the boy scouts?

Dauphin · January 1, 2004, 20:15

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Originally posted by DinoDoc
I thought that was a French joke.

Insert country here.

During WW2 my grandfather was mostly in Africa and the Middle East, so most jokes were against the Italians botched efforts.

Kuciwalker · January 1, 2004, 20:16

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Originally posted by Sava

France's military capabilities were NOT better than Nazi Germany's in WW2. They had more tanks, yes... but they were poorly deployed and much more inferior to German tanks... same with aircraft... small arms... and artillery.

Again, as Spiffor noted, some of the French tanks were better. And the poor deployment is what killed them

Tripledoc · January 1, 2004, 20:22

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Originally posted by TCO

Does your ass get chapped from eating nachos? Sheesh. Taking on the boy scouts?

Re anglo-saxon militarism I forgot the predominance of barrack's humour of course.

DinoDoc · January 1, 2004, 20:29

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Originally posted by Big Crunch
During WW2 my grandfather was mostly in Africa and the Middle East, so most jokes were against the Italians botched efforts.

Understandable.

Bereta_Eder · January 1, 2004, 20:42

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

I know. Sad really. Without France, there'd be no United States.

Hm, that's just another reason to dislike the French, isn't it...

That's the only one. But mistakes are being rectified it would seem

TCO · January 1, 2004, 20:48

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Originally posted by Tripledoc

Re anglo-saxon militarism I forgot the predominance of barrack's humour of course.

Sorry tender flower.

MikeH · January 1, 2004, 20:58

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Originally posted by Big Crunch

How do you reach the conclusion that the Anglo-Saxon psyche is greatly predisposed to militance?

We're humans.

Dauphin · January 1, 2004, 21:03

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Originally posted by MikeH

We're humans.

That statement, in context to the quote my post was questioning, implies that non-Anglosaxons aren't humans.

TCO · January 1, 2004, 21:03

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Originally posted by MikeH

We're humans.

Don't make me beat your ass...unless you like that.

TCO · January 1, 2004, 21:04

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Originally posted by Big Crunch

That statement, in context to the quote my post was questioning, implies that non-Anglosaxons aren't humans.

DANG! Using that power of logic and analysis to put things together. You goddarned he-man rationalist Anglo-war-monger.