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Old January 4, 2004, 11:51   #1
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SOVIET STEEL II - The Red Rage Returns!


Comrades!

One of my major new year projects is to provide good updates of my previous scenarios...

The first to get a redux is last year's Soviet Steel.
I was never truly happy with this scenario, and now plan to rebuild it from the floor.

I plan to present a range of all-new units, rules, techs and give the chance to
conduct a mega war to assert your hegemony's rule over the world!

The action centers on Europe, but this is a global war on a edited version of the Dictator-III map.
Research is geared towards the dawn of the jet age, with some nasty weapons to tempt the player.

This time around there are no complex events, no waiting around.
But a streamlined and nail-biting war for survival between these civs:

USA, (good ol' America)
USSR, (Stalin's Russia)
UDO, (United Defence Organisation - Europeans)
WARPAC, (Warsaw Pact Allies)
China, (Zedong's Communists)
India, (Fast-growing power)
WDA. (Western Democratic Allies)

Some civs will not fight immediately, but this war will effect all nations...

Set in an alternate 1948, where Germany had surrendered 4 years before,
the scenario kicks off at the dawn of the USSR's surprise invasion of Europe.
The USA is rushing reinforcements to the front, can they make it in time?

And can France, Britain and Germany hold the line?

I want to give you all the chance to find out.

I plan to make the Soviet Steel that should have been.

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Old January 4, 2004, 11:57   #2
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Old January 4, 2004, 11:58   #3
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Old January 4, 2004, 12:05   #4
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A little taster of things to come:

1st row:
Red Chinese Trooper, MiG-Z Strike Jet, Soviet T-50 MBT, USAF Sabre.

2nd row:
Fw255 Fighter, Swedish Trooper, Strongpoint, Terrorist MiG-15.

In terms of unit help, again I wish to salute Nemo, Fairline, Tanelorn, Jim Panse, FMK, Jimmywax and Harry Tuttle!

Cheers, chaps!
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Old January 4, 2004, 13:04   #5
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YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Sorry, uncontrolled feeling of triumph at the release of a scenario WITHOUT NAZIS!
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Old January 4, 2004, 13:36   #6
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Anything you want Curt, just ask. By the way, nice new avatar.
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Old January 4, 2004, 14:21   #7
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What role is sweden going to play?
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That scenario will be great!
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What role is sweden going to play?
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Old January 4, 2004, 14:33   #10
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What role is sweden going to play?
We'll be kicking everyone else's ass of course...
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Old January 4, 2004, 16:01   #11
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In the first version we provided the Soviets with our Artillery unit if they occupied Stockholm, but he must've another solution in this version.
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Old January 4, 2004, 16:34   #12
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Thanks, dudes!

@Arthedain:
@Henrik :
@gerryandersson:

The mighty Swedish forces will be fighting against Stalin in this version.
And differing conditions will dictate when and how they appear!

For Allies: Diplomacy might convince Sweden to join in.
For Soviets: A red invasion will spur Sweden to fight.

@GoPostal :
True! There will be now nazis in this scenario.

@Harry:
I am going to send you a PM!
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The invasion by Soviet forces will come up against a 'wall' of immobile Euro/German and strongpoint units.

On the first turn, a large force of US reinforcements will be ready to make the 4-5 turn journey across the Atlantic.

At the same time, I plan to make the UDO defence wall stand up to a WARPAC pounding for about 5-6 turns...

After which, the soviets will begin to pour through, the race against time will be to reinforce Europe to stem the red tide.

Losing all of Europe will mean an extremely tough time for the Allies...Atom bombs will be the only option.

More to come....
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In the last scenario, Chiang won the Chinese Civil War...any detail on what happened?
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Old January 4, 2004, 18:08   #15
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Simple!
This time you get to play as Zedong's bad guys and try and beat Chiang!

PS
The honour of killing Beria in the events is still there if you want it, RM!
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Curt, empty your PM box. And to answer you:

1) Yes, but see if you can grab what I already have out there and use them.

2) No, not to busy, use whatever you want.

3) Got something in mind. It won't be a pretty one, as they weren't until the 60's, but it'll be accurate.

I'll email the result to the usual. ttyl.

EDIT: Oh and I suggest the A1H Skyraider for close bomber support for the Allies. They were ready to go by 1946, but saw most of their action bombing the high hell out of the Chinese during the dire days of Korea. I also remember them being able to carry close to the same bomb load as the Lancaster bomber, but you might want to check on that.

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@ Curt: I have some other units there .... if you need some for this one too => gimme a ring, won´t you
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Old January 4, 2004, 19:57   #18
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Curt this version seems to be MUCH better and more interesting!
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Hey if the Swedes are in, i demand the Greeks make an appearance too!
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Is Israel in it? And if so, is it in the Soviet or American camp? In the ISraeli War of Independence in 1948, the USSR was Israel's primary weapons supplier through Czechoslovakia. Israelis were torn between the two superpowers.
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Old January 4, 2004, 23:02   #21
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How close to beta testing have you estimated, Curt? Any ETA you can give us?
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curt, i would suggest using Skipper's naval units.
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Old January 5, 2004, 06:32   #23
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@Harry Tuttle:
Thanks old chap!
Got your message this morning in email.
I will empty that PM box pronto!
The Skyraider sounds funky, I will see if I can fit it in...
Right now I have the B17 as bomber support...But that could change.

@Pericles:
Worry not! I will include a Greek unit!

@jim panse:
I would be delighted! Send me a PM, dude!

@EmuGod:
You speak true!
In Sov-Steel-II, Israel is a WARPAC member!
And there is an events created unit too!

@Arthedain:
Thanks, I realised simplicity is the best.

@rmsharpe:
I will hazard a guess at mid to later in January...
(University work is dominating my life, but so does CIV2!)

@Art of War:
His units rock, I will see what he has...


Phew!
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My PM box is clear!

So feel free to bombard me with PMs!
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Old January 5, 2004, 06:41   #25
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@Pericles:

What kind of unit would you like to see Greece use?

Just out of interest.
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What about b29 or 32 for US bomber?
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Old January 5, 2004, 08:34   #27
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I am giving the B29 some serious consideration!

I also would love to use fairline's awesome Lincoln bomber!
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The anti-communist civil war of the late 1940's in Greece may be an interesting aspect.

Anyone know if Greece had a special forces unit before the Katadromes, ETA and MYK?

All these units began in the 1950's...
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Sounds great, Curt...I'm really looking forward to this one.
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Cheers!

It's refreshing to make a good old-fashioned no-nonsense war scenario!

@And for all:
Here are some new icons from the development...
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