Russian presidential candidate is missing! - Page 3

Spiffor · February 10, 2004, 09:26

Oh no, Saras has entered the Berserk-Finninsh mode! Run for your lives!

Barinthus · February 10, 2004, 15:36

Got this off http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Feb10.html

He has been found. Although I have to wonder about his relationship with his wife... just taking off like that and not notifying her? *shrug*

Missing Russian Presidential Candidate Located

By Jim Heintz
The Associated Press
Tuesday, February 10, 2004; 1:32 PM

MOSCOW -- In a bizarre twist to Russia's presidential campaign, a candidate who vanished last week surfaced Tuesday in Ukraine, saying he was surprised by all the fuss that his disappearance had caused.

Ivan Rybkin, a critic of President Vladimir Putin, had been missing since late Thursday after being dropped off outside his Moscow home, according to his wife and campaign staffers.

But his staff reported Tuesday evening that he had turned up in Ukraine, and Rybkin told the Echo of Moscow radio station, "I haven't disappeared anywhere."

"I decided not to listen to the radio and TV" for a few days, Rybkin said. "I decided to go to Kiev to visit friends."

Rybkin, 57, said he was "shocked" when he read Russian newspapers on Tuesday and saw that his absence was being given wide attention.

Staff members said he was planning to return to Moscow by plane later Tuesday.

Rybkin's wife and staff had filed a missing-person report Sunday, the day after his candidacy for the March 14 presidential election was approved by the Central Election Commission.

"I have the right to two or three days of private life," Rybkin was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency.

"Last week, I decided to take a break from the fuss around me. I left fruit and money for my wife, who now is occupied with the grandchildren, but didn't say anything to her, changed my jacket, got on the train and left for Kiev," he said, according to Interfax.

Rybkin was a national security chief under former President Boris Yeltsin, the ex-speaker of Russia's lower parliament, a participant in failed negotiations with Chechnya's rebel leadership in 2002, and a close associate of one of Putin's most vocal foes, self-exiled tycoon Boris Berezovsky.

While the mystery around his disappearance was swirling, political observers suggested several possibilities: that his disappearance was staged as a political gimmick aimed at destabilization ahead of the election, that he fell victim to intrigues within the Berezovsky-funded Liberal Russia party, or that he was targeted in a politically motivated attack by the Russian security services.

Prosecutors opened a murder investigation into Rybkin's disappearance Monday -- and then immediately closed it, citing a lack of evidence. Hours later, a lawmaker declared that friends in the security services informed him that Rybkin was found "alive and healthy" at a resort outside Moscow. But police and Rybkin's lawyer, Marina Savateyeva, denied that.

Liberal Russia leaders have said it would be unlike Rybkin to stage his disappearance as a public relations move, as some Berezovsky critics have suggested. A longtime critic of Russian security services, Berezovsky pointed the finger at them again, hinting in an interview published Monday in the daily Kommersant that they know something about Rybkin's disappearance.

Berezovsky told Echo of Moscow on Tuesday that he had spoken to Rybkin after he turned up and that Rybkin told him that he had been tired and went to Ukraine to visit friends.

He said he told Rybkin that "it's cool to spend time with friends, of course, but the whole world has been standing on its ears for a few days" -- meaning that many people had been wondering about his fate.

Berezovsky, who has been granted asylum in Britain and lives there, said he had always known Rybkin to be a "very responsible" person and added that "if it turns out that this was an escapade, then (Rybkin's) political career is over."

© 2004 The Associated Press

Ned · February 10, 2004, 15:44

Rbykin's behavior is more than bizzare.

Serb · February 11, 2004, 00:30

Not at all. As I've said here earlier, he is quite a f*cker. So I was right from the beggining- it's just an attack of Berezovsky (Rybkin's master) against Putin and Russian leadership.
Just a dirty trick to show Russia in bad light.
F*ckers.

Serb · February 11, 2004, 00:31

Too bad Vagabod we couldn't bring those two ****s to justice. They clearly deserve some time in jail.

Imran Siddiqui · February 11, 2004, 00:34

Quote:

Do you suggest you're ready to join our glorious Federation at last?

They've seen how you've done in Chechnya and like their chances against your military

.

Serb · February 11, 2004, 00:40

You better look how your own forces doing now in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Spiffor · February 11, 2004, 00:45

So that was it? A guy who was on visit to his mistress?

Sava · February 11, 2004, 00:46

darn... this would have been so much more entertaining if Putin had some conspiracy going...

Serb · February 11, 2004, 01:00

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Originally posted by Spiffor
So that was it? A guy who was on visit to his mistress?

No. It was a planned attack of Berezovsky (remember, he is bald dickhead) against Russian leadership.

Serb · February 11, 2004, 01:07

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Originally posted by Sava
darn... this would have been so much more entertaining if Putin had some conspiracy going...

Sava, this missed ****- Rybkin is no one, he is nothing, a zero. No one really cares about him. He is not, even in his dreams, a close competitor for Putin. There is not a single reason for Putin to anything against him. But Rybkin is puppet of Berezovsky, who hate Putin and who do whatever he can to compromise Putin.
Dirty trick of criminal bald rat.

Sava · February 11, 2004, 01:11

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Dirty trick of criminal bald rat

thanks for the info Serb, I'm not familiar with Russian politics... the western media made Rybkin out to be Putin's main adversary.

Serb · February 11, 2004, 01:28

With his party rating of 0.02% and personal rating of Rybkin of 1%, I hardly can see how he can be a competitor for Putin (whose current rating is about 80%).

Rybkin and Berezovsky's party are clowns. They are nothing, an emty space.

Saras · February 11, 2004, 02:20

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Originally posted by Serb

I don't get it. Do you suggest you're ready to join our glorious Federation at last?

No, I'm ready to observe T80 turrets flying in beautiful arcs across the sky

Saras · February 11, 2004, 02:21

Hey that Glazev sounds like a reasonable guy... for a Duma member, that is.

Serb · February 11, 2004, 02:35

He is.

Serb · February 11, 2004, 02:37

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Originally posted by Saras

No, I'm ready to observe T80 turrets flying in beautiful arcs across the sky

Sorry Saras, you have nothing to stop our Siberian steel monsters, no one has.

Saras · February 11, 2004, 02:40

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Originally posted by Serb

Sorry Saras, you have nothing to stop our Siberian steel monsters, no one has.

Javelins do a marveouls job in TacOps, thank you very much

Serb · February 11, 2004, 02:45

Year right, and arrows, ballistas and catapults are even more devastating weapons.

It's 21'st century, wake-up Saras.

Serb · February 11, 2004, 02:46

Relax I'm j/k

I know what Javelin means. Hardly it will help you much against our beasts wearing explosive reactive armor.

Saras · February 11, 2004, 02:50

http://www.army-technology.com/proje...lin/index.html

Serb · February 11, 2004, 02:52

Do you really thought I don't get what were you talking about?

Saras · February 11, 2004, 02:54

Explosive reactive armor

Saras · February 11, 2004, 02:56

i knew u knew. just gave a convenient link. Give your poor tankers a head start, it's only fair

Serb · February 11, 2004, 02:56

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Originally posted by Saras
Explosive reactive armor

Need a link?

Saras · February 11, 2004, 02:59

Why would I?

Serb · February 11, 2004, 03:02

Why "LOL" then?

Just in case if anyone need a link:
http://armor.kiev.ua/fofanov/Tanks/index.html

"When fitted to T-72 tanks, the 'heavy' ERA made them immune to the DU penetrators of M829 APFSDS, fired by the 120 mm guns of the US M1 Abrams tanks, which are among the most formidable of current tank gun projectiles.

"Richard M. Ogorkiewicz"

Look for "Kontakt-5 ERA", and press "here" if you need more details.

Yep, it's tank praising, Russian flag waving threadjack.

Saras · February 11, 2004, 03:05

ERA mightily helped you in Chechnya and Saddam in Iraq.

Saras · February 11, 2004, 03:06

Wait, did you sell Saddie any ERA?

Serb · February 11, 2004, 03:07

1) In Chechnya- YES.
2) Saddam NEVER had a SINGLE tank equipped with ERA.