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Old February 21, 2004, 22:00   #241
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the flaw in your argument is I don't back Franco
You have, many times in the past. You've spoken very highly of him and even had him in your avatar, IIRC.
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Old February 21, 2004, 22:00   #242
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the flaw in your argument is I don't back Franco
You have, many times in the past. You've spoken very highly of him and even had him in your avatar, IIRC.
I am sorry but I don't think highly of him at all. In fact I am happy we have a parliamentary system in Spain today. I'm very happy we have elections.

So don't be a fool.
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Old February 21, 2004, 22:02   #243
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I am sorry but I don't think highly of him at all. In fact I am happy we have a parliamentary system in Spain today. I'm very happy we have elections.
Still doesn't change the fact that you did. You had him in your avatar. Stop lying .
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I am sorry but I don't think highly of him at all. In fact I am happy we have a parliamentary system in Spain today. I'm very happy we have elections.
Still doesn't change the fact that you did. You had him in your avatar. Stop lying .
No you are lying because I don't support Franco. So stop being a moron.,
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Old February 21, 2004, 22:09   #245
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State recognition of marriages is greatly beneficial for those who get married. It effects taxation, property rights, medical care, estates, and the interests of individuals upon seperation. Not to mention that married couples are preferred in many cases for adoption.

For this argument, nothing changes in a marriage between heteros or homos. Orientation ought to be irrelevant in obtaining the benefits that the state confers to married people.
So, in essence, you deny that the State can favor families over alternative lifestyles?
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No you are lying because I don't support Franco.
Are you saying that you never supported Franco? Are you?
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In a democracy, people can change the law through the vote. Resort to deliberate civil disobedience is intollerable.
And how did women change democracy through the ballot when they were denied the vote?

Or Catholics?

Or Dissenters?

How did India achieve democracy and universal suffrage?

How did Dalits/Untouchables achieve equality?

So, Ned, 'no taxation without representation' is what, just a slogan, I suppose?

Perhaps you really mean the institutionalized repression of minorities is intolerable.
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Old February 21, 2004, 22:21   #248
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No you are lying because I don't support Franco.
Are you saying that you never supported Franco? Are you?
I'm talking about me right now.
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I'm talking about me right now.
You're evading the question.
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I have never supported Franco, ever. And If I said anything in support of Franco, that doesn't mean I support him.
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So what are you advocating, Molly? An armed revolt by gays?
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I have never supported Franco, ever.


You are such a filthy liar.
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And you are such a filthy moron. Why don't you got back to supporting Hamas and Hezbollah?
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I would if they pledged themselves to blow up Fascists, like you .
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I am no more fascist than you are a girl.
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Fez, I remember you admitting you were a fascist. And you started a pic thread called "New pictures of the Apolyton Fascist" which starred yourself in a variety of lewd poses.
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Guess I'm a girl then .
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Fez, I remember you admitting you were a fascist. And you started a pic thread called "New pictures of the Apolyton Fascist" which starred yourself in a variety of lewd poses.
That pic thread was not telling anything about me, rather was comical.

Lewd poses? I took a few photos of my face.

I'm not a fascist. To try and state that I am, is a blatant lie.
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We need a new contest.

Who has Fez called a moron the most times? I reckon I'm winning, I've just racked up a stack of points in the photo thread.
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I'm not a fascist. To try and state that I am, is a blatant lie.
If by 'lie', you mean 'truth' .

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Who has Fez called a moron the most times
Oh, there have been more than a few .
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This is like that thread where he said he'd never threatened to throw anyone out of a helicopter.
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This is like that thread where he said he'd never threatened to throw anyone out of a helicopter.
I never did. If you are talking seriously.
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Ben, This argument is consistent from a communist whose manifesto denounced marriage.

I haven't seen all of Che's posts here, but I assume that, being a good communist, he is against all marriages, including gay marriage.
Not to get into an argument over the Communist Manifesto but you are, unsurprisingly, wrong. What Marx decries in the pamplet is the patriarchal family, wife and children being the property of the husband/father, to do with as he pleases, to beat them, starve them, sell them, etc., all of which were quite prevelent in the 19th Century. On top of that, that men were allowed and even encouraged to seek mistresses, while women who did so would lose eveything. He's pretty clear about it.
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I am no more fascist than you are a girl.
Guess I'm a girl then .

Leila Siddiqui, Sultana of Swing.

Has a certain eastern promise about it.
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That pic thread was not telling anything about me, rather was comical.
Do you believe that anything concerning you can be uncomical?
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This thread is great .
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I am no more fascist than you are a girl.
Guess I'm a girl then .
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You were serious Fez, and you were utterly owned in that thread for good measure.

Someone is bound to have the original bookmarked, so I'd be quiet if I were you.
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We should ask JohnT
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