Who loves America?

[chequita guevara]

Okay.

[DinoDoc]

I wasn't talking to you, you poor excuse for a commie!

[chequita guevara]

B*tch, b*tch, b*tch.

[Pekka]

AMERICA GIVE US MONEY WE NEED IT!


*waits and sees if we get it*

edit: I mean ME not US. I've been watching Amistad again.

[DinoDoc]

We'd have to invade first.

[Yiff_Yiff_Yaoi]

Originally posted by DanS


Believe it or not, the same survey shows that the US has an 80% positive image in Vietnam.

They probably just pity them because the Americans lost the war

[DinoDoc]

DL!

[child of Thor]

Yeah but these polls ar not stupid - they have a day to day impact on peoples lives.
They might be inacurate just by ther very nature, but they do matter, or should matter.
How each country veiws one another should be of interest to all of us.

It means the difference of going down the shops - seeing a label from such and such country which makes you not buy the product, to becoming overcome with rage hate - you'll fly a plane into a building, or worse. And everything in between.

So it does matter - we just have to figure out a way to make everyone like each other more.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
We'd have to invade first.

"The Mouse That Roared"

love that movie.

[Pekka]

child of Thor, I disagree. I just disagreed with everything you said.

We don't do that. Why should you? It works for us we know what people think of us (who knows us). That happens when you are actively interracting with them. You see what I mean? You see a poll, you see it says someone doesn't like you super, then you automatically don't like them either.

[Japher]

Lets take a poll to see how many people are racist!

That won't do a damn thing, just show that racism is trendy and shic, or that racism is dead and that AA is a joke.

Not to make this about racism, though nationalism is along the same line, I just agree with Pekka that this poll is worthless. I do agree that problems need to be well defined in order to address the problem, but I don't think taking a poll that shows public opinion about hate is really all that useful, and is, in essence, not the problem.

[Pekka]

And this is exactly what I meant earlier. This is what creates too much BS, unnecessary.

As for me, I don't really CARE what the Belgians think of our country as long as we're not enemies. The country relations are handled by others, business wise it matters who your partner is it's business, not popularity contest, they don't give a crap if they see 4 hippies hand in hand chanting crap, they care about their partner and the business.

Diplomatic relations are not based on polls and shouldn't be.

You can't even say that 'Germans don't like us' Do you know them? Well the poll says so, yeah BS warning right here.

Not liking some policy != hating a country. And the polls changes results every month anyway.

About enemies, there's not really need for a poll to see who the enemy is.

Polls like these are utter scheisse, they do more HARM than good. THESE polls CREATE stereotypes more than anything.

You said that you want to know what they think because it's important for example deciding if you buy the product or not. Well congratulations if you have a BS poll like this that is interpreted wrong in general audience like most likely it will be and you'd be boycotting something that is based on misinterpretations anyway. And why would you not buy if someone doesn't like you anyway? This is exactly what I mean that they do more harm than good and create stereotypes and general bullshit.

I feel strongly about it too. I mean you can always have polls, but I just think they're total BS.

edit: If I go to Russia, in some of the border villages they don't like us according to polls, but I don't care. If I'd go there, I see people as people, be it Russian people. NOT people who 'hates us according to 1998 December poll, better not buy anything'. I know this is NOT what you meant or said, but you get my point, I don't suck in these stereotypes.

One day Britney Spears is #1, second day it's someone else, but if you're allegedly hated, you always remember that, and not that the next month it was different, or someone else.

[child of Thor]

Well Pekka - i just dont think it can be ignored, sure its stupid, but when its at a level that people will happily(i guess?) kill themselves, while taking as many of the 'evil enemy' with them as possible - it just doesnt seem an option to bury ones head in the sand and hope it all goes away?
These are issues i would want to take face on and try to resolve.

And polls from the public are important - in a democracy atleast its what you as a candidate will spend alot of time trying to work out, and shaping your policies to persuade voters to vote for you(and having consequences on foriegn policy if you win etc).

Not sure if this is so relevant outside of democracies

I just think we need to wake up in the west - be real world leaders and not encourage more events like in America and Spain.............

[Lord Merciless]

If it's really true that the majority of Muslims support suicide bombings, then they shall also receive the corresponding treatment.

[Pekka]

child of Thor, do you realistically, I mean really think that with Polls you stop terrorist attacks?

Military intelligence etc takes care of these situations, NOT polls. I would be very alarmed if intelligence reads these from papers and consider it as reliable source.

[Pekka]

child of Thor, and no I didn't mean polls in general are stupid Just these kind of polls.. Polls in general are ok and useful!

[Japher]

Just to clarify we are talking about "polls" and not "poles" or ppl from "Poland"... I just read the last three posts thinking about "Poland" and L'dMAO

[child of Thor]

Ah ok i thought you meant the polls from the BBC site! i see now - no i dont want this to be a poll for America good/bad. More a discussion of the consequence of the data from such polls - and its relevence for all of us

[Pekka]

And people think differently in the US, in Europe, in Asia.. everywhere they think differently and see different picture than you think you are giving them. It's not necessarily negative though!! But it's different.

People talk differently, Lost In Translation.

THey have different meanings, these polls are likely to to be interpreted differently, depends on the questions and what they're like, but when you read it you see something, when I read the same thing, I see it a little bit differently. Just a tiny bit, but it's a bit different.

You put this in a big soup, you got a mess. Polls like these are too difficult to set up to have them show any kind of potential real answers and opinions. And that's why they should be killed before they go to public.

When you think that there are tons of people that think you're a bad person just because you are some nationality, then that's not right.. blah I've done talking in this thread about what I mean. Either you guys get it, or you get me wrong, and I don't give a crap because I'm in a bad mood now.

[Nubclear]

Nobody understands the Finn

[Pekka]

chlid of Thor, you see?! here we talk about different things not realizing about it. I mean I could just hate you now for it. But I don't .

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Japher
Just to clarify we are talking about "polls" and not "poles" or ppl from "Poland"... I just read the last three posts thinking about "Poland" and L'dMAO

That reminds me of the Seinfeld with the Cubans.

Comrade, is a certain site down for you too?

[Theben]

Does anyone else read the title and think, Telly Savalas?

[Nubclear]

It is, love.
Love, download MSN Messenger and add danieljackson5000 at hotmail dot com to your list.

[-Jrabbit]

BTW Threabin -- it's "Telly" not Teddy. You call yourself an American?
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Trying to participate in this discussion reminds me of why I tend to stay away from the political side of Poly. Actual discussion of the article posted and responses to questions posed by the thread originator are instantly lost in a sea of yipping egos.

I guess it's too much to expect ppl to stay on topic in the Off Topic... What was I thinking?
Y'all have fun...

[Ted Striker]

USA!

Who's got the original pic?

[Zero]

that pic reminds me of that flash movie
John B's song, american girls

"I really like american girls.
They take off their shirts for the video"

or something like that.

[Heavy and Happy]

I love the USA and especially USA sluts.

Everyone loves Finland though. What's not to like?

[Spiffor]

The fact they intend to be our evil overlord by stealing lakes, for once.

[Nubclear]

Pikku G