Recommended Abandoned Games

[tonic]

Thanks to this forum I've discovered abandoned games and what a free source for older games. Have you played any you can recommend to someone obviously raised on Civ?

Edit: Listing of recommendations to date:

Colonization (2+)
MOO 1 and 2
AH's Advanced Civilization
Transport Tycoon Delux,
Noble Armada demo
master of magic,
capitalism plus,
merchant prince
Master of Magic (2)
SkyRoads
buck rogers
Universe
Superheroes of Hoboken
Star Control 2
Seven Cities of Gold
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[Pythagoras]

If you havent played Colonization, MOO 1 and 2, Civ 1, get your hands on those. OTherwise, I really enjoy Castles, and all the sequels.

[tonic]

Thanks, Pythagoras. I've played Civ1, have come across Colonization (another Sid Meier game I believe) but not the MOOs or Castles.

[Narck]

quote: Originally posted by tonic on 10-31-2000 09:16 PM Thanks, Pythagoras. I've played Civ1, have come across Colonization (another Sid Meier game I believe)

Brilliant game, simply brilliant

quote: but not the MOOs or Castles.

They're good too, but they don't even come close to colonization, which is right up there with civilization as far as I'm concerned

[tonic]

Strong recommendations, indeed Narck. Will definitely download Colonization now.

[Makeo]

where can you get these game?

[tonic]

Here: http://www.abandongames.com/Games/a.shtml

and links from there as well, all free for downloading.

[Garth Vader]

How do you get Moo1 running under W98? I tried but it uses funky memory and I didn't want to use a boot disk like I used to have to (I din't even know if a boot disk would work anyway).

[ravagon]

GV, are you running a lot of other apps at the same time? I used to have problems running Moo1 under Win95 but since I've begun using Win98 I've been able to run it normally, even using sound, without having to reboot in dos.

Narck, I thought you disliked colonization?

quote: quote: Why don't we have a Colonization forum? Narck Ugh!

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[Urban Ranger]

I would say AH's Advanced Civilization is very good. DOS based.

[Garth Vader]

No, as far as I remember I wasn't running any other apps. It just said I didn't have any expanded/extended/whatever kind of memory. When I checked the dos file running properties I couldn't find that kind of memory there to allocate more of.

[Narck]

Ravagon,

No, I don't, I think it's a good game. I believe that quote referred to not wanting to have a forum for it on the boards (because it is, after all, an old game)

[Nicolas]

The abandonware games which have a permanent place on my HD right now include Transport Tycoon Delux, master of magic, capitalism plus, and merchant prince. they are all excellent games which I highly recommend. Something else you might want to look into if you need something to play is the Noble Armada demo, which is basically the beta of the full game.

[tonic]

Thanks for the suggestions so far.

BTW Narck's thread in OT on the threat to Abandonware
http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum23/HTML/017266.html?7

may be of interest if you haven't already come across it.
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[Shadowstrike]

Well, I found Master of Magic to be a very fun strategy game, even if the graphics are a bit primitive...

Master of Magic is a great game, possibly the best 4x (ie. Civ-style) game ever made. If you want simpler challenges, may I recommend SkyRoads for mindless fun?

[Tis I]

Anyone know where i can get my hands on "Fallout"?

[John-SJ]

quote: Originally posted by Tis I on 11-05-2000 11:24 PM Anyone know where i can get my hands on "Fallout"?

Yep! $12.99 at EBWorld.

John-SJ

[Urban Ranger]

Some other highly recommended titles:

Universe: an extremely well thought out RPG.

Superheroes of Hoboken: very very funny RPG based on some off-the-wall superheroes.

Star Control 2: another exremely well thought out RPG.

Spaceward Ho!: simplistic space exploration game based on a Western sytle. Change of pace when you have played too much SMAC.

[self biased]

i've always been a fan of the buck rogers roleplaying games that they've got there.

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[Richard Bruns]

I really like "Seven Cities of Gold."

You play a Spanish adventurer in the new world, and have to explore, interact with the natives, gain wealth, and eventually set up colonies. While technically a strategy game, the item managemant and interaction with the natives make it feel like an RPG as well. The gameplay was really fun, even though the setup was simple. There was no fighting, just exploration, diplomacy, item management, and of course the goal of setting up those colonies and getting them enough supplies.

I have no idea how old it is; it was a Dan Bunten game that originally came out for the Commodore 64. I got the PC version an a "Classics" pack that was in a bargain bin about five years ago. I heve never seen it or even heard of it since then. I think this is the best game that no one knows about.

[Urban Ranger]

tonic,

You missed Spaceward Ho!

I have played Colonization, but not enough to make any comments. Pretty cool as far as I can tell.

Also MoO, MoO 2, and Railroad Tycoon.

But the best abandonware game (well not quite as of now, as Hasbro put out a compilation with it ) is UFO: Enemies Unknown (XCOM: UFO Defense for Usians ).

Maybe not better than Civ, but definitely in the same class.

classic-trash seems to be a good website for abandonware as well.

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[Richard Bruns]

I love X-Com: UFO Defense. Best $3 I ever spent.

I have a habit of picking up games a couple years after they get released. You get them dirt cheap, and after a game has been out for a while you will know if it is worthwhile.

[Eternal]

DopeWars for Windows provides hours of simple drug-dealing fun.

Colonization would be no. 1
If you're into really old games, what about Defender of the Crown or California Games or Romance of the three kingdoms 3


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[Urban Ranger]

quote: Originally posted by Richard Bruns on 12-04-2000 11:09 PM I have a habit of picking up games a couple years after they get released. You get them dirt cheap, and after a game has been out for a while you will know if it is worthwhile.

That's a mighty good practice. Unfortunately we don't have bargin bins here. Most games run out quickly unless they are real trash. For example, I can't find Homeworld anymore even though it's less than a year old.

[Urban Ranger]

quote: Originally posted by phoenixcager on 12-05-2000 03:25 AM Colonization would be no. 1 If you're into really old games, what about Defender of the Crown or California Games or Romance of the three kingdoms 3

Defender of the Crown was kinda fun. The really annoying part was the sword fight portion that I had problems handling. After I got the hang of that it's not a difficult game. I don't know if the sword fights get a lot harder on these faster computers My major complaint was DotC played like puzzle solving in the sense that it had certain key sequences that, once discovered, would lead to victory.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms is good but I can't tell if it's abandonware. Koei keeps coming out with newer editions (up to 7 or 8).
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