More Wood Pushing - Page 3

Smash · November 30, 2000, 02:03

Hmmm...I don't really have any good moves.The end may be near.

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 .... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 .... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5

Julius Brenzaida · November 30, 2000, 18:31

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 .... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3

Smash · December 1, 2000, 20:17

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 .... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O

Julius Brenzaida · December 1, 2000, 21:13

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 ... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O
18 Bg5

Julius Brenzaida · December 1, 2000, 21:18

So you didn't get rid of the bishop straight away!
It was a tough choice ... I was a little bit afraid of 16 exf4. Maybe you saw further than I did. We shall see ...
This game is full of surprises : I was expecting 14 e5 and then it's 15 e5, when I was thinking of 15 Qc5 ! (the reason I played 15 Rd2 instead of 15 Bd3).
I had forgotten how complicated the king of the games could be !!! The more you think, the less you understand.

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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

Smash · December 2, 2000, 04:23

well this position is resignable now but if I play 16.....PxB then I see 17.Re1+..Kd8 18.BxN and thats all she wrote.If I chop queens I'm done also.My main goal after my horrendous opening was to make move 20.After that hang on and hope to get "lucky"
The worst part is,depending on interest levels,it may be months before a rematch.

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 ... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O
18 Bg5 ... f6

Julius Brenzaida · December 2, 2000, 06:03

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 ... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O
18 Bg5 … f6
19 Bxf5

Julius Brenzaida · December 2, 2000, 15:14

quote:

Originally posted by Smash on 12-02-2000 03:23 AM
well this position is resignable now but if I play 16.....PxB then I see 17.Re1+..Kd8 18.BxN and thats all she wrote.If I chop queens I'm done also.My main goal after my horrendous opening was to make move 20.After that hang on and hope to get "lucky"
The worst part is,depending on interest levels,it may be months before a rematch.

Well, at least you'll get rid of one bishop now. This position would deserve a diagram, but I don't know how to do it.
I find you very pessimistic. I agree that white is better, but as for now you have no static disadvantage and material is equal. Maybe you can survive.
17 ... exf4, 18 Re1+ and 18 Ne3 would have "only" given up a pawn. Maybe it was best that way.
For the rematch, well it seems that Ken Hinds is in, and, but I'm not sure, Silver Dragon too.
Another way, as we are taken back by the virus of chess would be to organize a tournament.

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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

Smash · December 2, 2000, 21:19

I thought kcbob was next.

I didn't spend much time looking at that line because of 19.PxN PxP 20.RxP+ Kd1 21.Qe7+.Did I need to look a little more?

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 ... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O
18 Bg5 … f6
19 Bxf5 ... gxf5

Smash · December 2, 2000, 21:31

Ok.I don't play 19...PxP(e).

tonic · December 3, 2000, 00:15

Mmm...this is the sort of position I used to like as White, sort of sets the combination bells ringing. A decisive attack looming I'd say.

My tactical nature is showing of course quite overshaddowing my lesser positional sense.

Smash · December 3, 2000, 03:10

ROTFLMAO..this is STILL the kind of position I like for white.

tonic · December 3, 2000, 03:40

Smash: The main message was I like the positions on the verge on some combination.

BTW have you had much success with the Caro-Kahn? I prefer the Sicilian despite it's two-edge riskiness.

Smash · December 3, 2000, 04:10

Yes I have had decent results with the Caro-Kann.It is very solid.Although not when played as I have in this game.The more I look,the less I know WTF I was doing.hehehe.
In bygone tournament days I would play Caro-Kann and Semi-Slav with black every game if allowed.

I play the Sicilian also.In fact I have a very good position against a Leonhardt-Sozin Attack over at Civ Fanatics site right now.But I found players were booked up the ying yang on the Sicilian and not so much on Caro-Kann.It wasn't "fashionable"

I've played pretty much everything at one time or another against e4.Closed is what I prefer.I have even played Alekhine's Defense in tournaments.

[This message has been edited by Smash (edited December 03, 2000).]

Julius Brenzaida · December 3, 2000, 10:36

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 ... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O
18 Bg5 … f6
19 Bxf5 … gxf5
20 Be3

Smash · December 3, 2000, 16:33

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 ... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O
18 Bg5 … f6
19 Bxf5 … gxf5
20 Be3 ... c5

Julius Brenzaida · December 3, 2000, 18:56

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 ... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O
18 Bg5 … f6
19 Bxf5 … gxf5
20 Be3 … c5
21 Rgd1

Julius Brenzaida · December 3, 2000, 19:01

quote:

Originally posted by Smash on 12-03-2000 03:10 AM
I play the Sicilian also.In fact I have a very good position against a Leonhardt-Sozin Attack over at Civ Fanatics site right now.[This message has been edited by Smash (edited December 03, 2000).]

Can we have the link so that we can study the game of our opponents (me, kibbitzing ? never !)

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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

Smash · December 4, 2000, 02:14

Civ Fanatics board games forum is here.Yes they have a board games forum.Heck,they even have a html test forum.They also seem to have solved the "password being shown while logging into private messages" problem.

Smash · December 4, 2000, 05:44

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 ... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O
18 Bg5 … f6
19 Bxf5 … gxf5
20 Be3 … c5
21 Rgd1 ... a6

kcbob · December 4, 2000, 09:28

quote:

Originally posted by Smash on 12-02-2000 08:19 PM
I thought kcbob was next.

I'm more than content to wait for new challengers to take their turn in the barrel.

BTW, Smash, you missed a golden opportunity. When you posted the diagram, you should have slipped in an extra black queen.

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Frodo lives!

Julius Brenzaida · December 4, 2000, 09:51

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 ... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O
18 Bg5 … f6
19 Bxf5 … gxf5
20 Be3 … c5
21 Rgd1 … a6
22 Rd5

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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

Julius Brenzaida · December 4, 2000, 10:15

Well, isn’t all this talk about the next challenger a clever ploy to throw me off balance ? (yes, paranoia is a chess skill !). Smash ain’t dead yet We’re past move 20 and material is still equal. I would be lying if I’d pretend I’m not thinking I can win this game, but there are yet many moves to be played.
“Il ne faut pas vendre la peau de l’ours avant de l’avoir tué.” As we say in French. (One should not sell the skin of the bear before having killed him).

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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

Smash · December 4, 2000, 19:32

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 ... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O
18 Bg5 … f6
19 Bxf5 … gxf5
20 Be3 … c5
21 Rgd1 … a6
22 Rd5 ... Rh8-g8

Ken Hinds · December 5, 2000, 05:11

Smash,

What I had said was that I could see that I would have to get in line. I haven't been on the site much lately and have no idea where I am in the line. I certainly don't want to cut in front of anyone. I still haven't solved my problem with the new notation system yet and have to coversions to the old system for every move, but I'll get over it.

Ken

Smash · December 5, 2000, 05:44

I have no idea who is "in line" at this point.

Notation is not a major problem.I'm sure most players are completely fluent in descriptive notation.Algebraic is just a preferred system(by myself anyway).

Julius Brenzaida · December 5, 2000, 06:00

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 ... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O
18 Bg5 … f6
19 Bxf5 … gxf5
20 Be3 … c5
21 Rgd1 … a6
22 Rd5 ... Rhg8
23 c4

Julius Brenzaida · December 5, 2000, 06:07

quote:

Originally posted by SilverDragon on 11-17-2000 11:03 AM
May I join?

Ken, you're either next or second in the line.
I don't know if this single quote of Silverdragon means he wants to step up. Silverdragon are you willing to fight in this bloody arena (not a single draw yet !) ?
Otherwise, Ken, it's up to you after this game. I invite you, as I'm not pretentious enough yet to quote myself, to see my proposition of rules for the world championship. It's in the 1st page of this thread.
No one has given any opinion on my proposition to make it a closed tournament ...

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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

Smash · December 6, 2000, 22:26

well..I think maybe the time has come...ah heck..one more

1 e4 ... c6
2 Nc3 .... d5
3 Nf3 ... Bg4
4 h3 ... Bxf3
5 Qxf3 ... e6
6 g3 ... Bb4
7 Qg4 ... Bxc3
8 dxc3 ... g6
9 exd5 ... Qxd5
10 Qb4 ... Nd7
11 Rg1 ... Qe5+
12 Be3 ... Qc7
13 O-O-O ... Ne7
14 Qa3 ... Nf5
15 Bf4 ... Qb6
16 Rd2 ... e5
17 Bd3 ... O-O-O
18 Bg5 … f6
19 Bxf5 … gxf5
20 Be3 … c5
21 Rgd1 … a6
22 Rd5 ... Rhg8
23 c4 ... h5

Smash · December 6, 2000, 22:32

I see no major problems with your proposals.I do see a champ(someone will win 2 in row) playing nothing but black.Perhaps some challenger organization is in order.

Interim list
1.kcbob(may pass)
2.Silverdragon-???
3.Ken Hinds-definitely interested
4.Carolus-lurking and waiting
5.Smash-should I lose

[This message has been edited by Smash (edited December 07, 2000).]