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Old December 15, 2000, 12:53   #61
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The Statue of Power looms in the distance....deep within the forests west of the Mongolian Capital.
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Old December 15, 2000, 15:07   #62
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I must say that is quite the picture Drake!
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Old December 15, 2000, 22:28   #63
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Why is your statue giving us the finger?

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You little scumbag! I've got your name! I've
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Old December 15, 2000, 23:00   #64
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Damn! U guys runneth at the fingers!
Nice posts & pic's.
Seems that U play Civ as an excuse to tell stories & create pic's.
Your screen shots have different unit icons than my game. Apparently U R using Mac's?
THat's why the graphics are so good?

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Old December 16, 2000, 01:40   #65
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Good one, I like that



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<center>Paris Post Special Report
EURO-EGYPTIAN WAR

June 7th, 780
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Euro-Backed Rebels Liberate Petra, Spark Euro-Egyptian War!
Petra, Egypt - The Athribis Jihad, a Muslim Speratist movement in the city of Athribis, now Petra, stormed the Egyptian government's compound in the city forcing the Egyptian governor to flee to Cremona. Kermal Akhim-Ehud, leader of the movement said "We are pleased that the European Union, despite their majority Roman Catholic sect, decided to help our people, we were in peril, the Egyptian government of the Tyrannical Kiya was treating our people as garbage. Our decision to accept annexation by the European Union was based on their lax religious laws, freedom of religion is very important to our people." However, new evidence from Egypt says that freedom of Religion was part of their government, and in fact the revolution would not have occured where it not for European input.
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European and Athribis Jihad soldiers battle Egyptian forces outside of Petra. (EU Associated Press)</center>
"We demand our city back, if it is not returned we will consider this an act of war!" Said an adimate Consul Kiya, her reputation internationally called into question by her reluctance to declare war initially on Europe. Soon after the rebellion of Petra, soldiers under the command of Kermal Attaturk in northern Arabia attacked an Egyptian mounted unit, starting the Euro-Egyptian war. "This should not be considered a sneak attack, as the Egyptians believe it is, they quickly began defaming our nation soon after the Petran rebellion. They were telling other nations that we were aggressors and starting a war, that we had declared war, if the Egyptians thought we were at war they were sorely mistaken, our reason for the attack was to show Egypt what Europe does when we are at war!" said Consul Bonaparte. At this time peace does not seem very close.

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INTERNATIONAL REPORT
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Persian Land Agreement Signed with India.
Tehran, Persia - An agreement, who's particulars were not released by officials of the European Union or India, have ceded the entire territory of Persia to the Indian Republic in exchange for indisclosed military technology and a sea port in a far off land. The port city of Yalta was also handed over to the Indian Republic as part of the deal. "We simply should not have done this" said Senator Orange-Nassau of the Netherlands "Persia was a part of the EU, they should have been granted Provincial status as per the European Union Charter. This is an outrage, and a serious blow to the cause." However, there was more to this agreement than that, Senator Collins of Ireland replied to Orange "For him to say that is an outrage to me, we were well within our legal rights to seize public land, which was the Persian territories and hand it over to India in exchange for spoils that will help Europe in the future." The vote passed by a stunning majority, 42 to 21, as the Majority Hawk party was in favor of the legislation. The deeds were signed by Consul Napoleon Bonaparte and King Mohandas Gandhi of India in the city of Antioch.

Himalayan Road Completed!
Chittagong, India - A joint project between the governments of the now Indian Republic and the Holy Mongolian Empire was completed near Chittagong(?). The road was proposed centuries ago, and after years upon years of toil on both the Indian and Mongolian sides, the road was completed. "This road will greatly increase the trade of both nations" commented Jarik Singh, Indian Trade Advisor. At this time the EU doubts the road will help European trade, but believes it is a good indication that while Consul Bonaparte's proposed Infrastructure Accords were declined by India and Mongolia, it is a sign that the ideals behind the accords are still going strong.

High Priest Tsaatar Takes Control of Mongolia, Drake Dynasty Ends After Nearly 5,000 Years!
Karakorum, Mongolia - In a seemingly bloodless revolution, King Drake VII of Mongolia was deposed by Buddhist Extremists (can that even exist?). High Priest Tsaatar not only declined to comment, but did not permit our Lutheran Reporter Hans Meuller entrance into Karakorum. "The prime reason for this influx of Buddhism in Mongolia is indirectly due to the influx of Republicans in India. As the new ideal of Republicanism, and later Democracy took hold in India, the powerful Buddhist caste, including the Aristocracy, felt their grips upon India slipping. When Commandata Khalid took control, the Buddhists went north, bringing their wealth with them, thus ushering Tsaatar as the new High Priest of Mongolia." Said French historian Phillipe Aries. After Tsaatar began his extremist movement, which culminated with the construction of a massive statue, the Drake Dynasty attempted to please the masses with a chest of gold. This pathetic attempt failed, and Drake was banished to Siberia where he, and his family (one wife and two children) reportedly died.

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DOMESTIC REPORT
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More Tax Money Alloted Towards Research!
Paris, France - "We were experiencing a high intake of tax dollars" said Senator Garza of Spain "Thus we decided that more should be given towards Research Institutions around the Union." As the tax has yielded more money due to the growth of Urban areas, more and more money is being given towards research. The increase would grant 10% more money towards Schools and Universities.

Petra Annexed Unanimously.
Paris, France - The EU Senate has voted unanimously (63 - 0) in favor of the annexation of Petra into the European Union. "While I was against the idea of war initially, we made a decision, and we must stick with it" said Senate Minority Leader William of Orange-Nassau. The city of Petra was then ceded into the Province of the Palestine, governor Solomon of Palestine said "We are pleased to bring in Petra, which is primarily Muslim, thus enriching the variety of religions in our Province greatly!"

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EDITORIAL
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By Voltaire

War has been declared on Egypt, I am wondering how this will effect the world politically. These past few years have been amazing, there have been changes everywhere, in India, in Mongolia, and in Egypt. Things are becomming differant, the old politics won't work anymore. Europe has shown that it has the ability as a powerful country to go to war, this is the biggest conflict in the known history of the world; Egypt v. Europe. If you analyze the rebellion in Petra, it becomes apparent that Europe had plans to fight a war against Egypt before the Rebellion. The strategic location of Petra is amazing, not only cutting Egypt off from its Middle Eastern holdings, but securing the Suez, and creating a wall of defense. Despite the fact that I believe Bonaparte is dismantling part of the Republican cause, I must say he is a very able general. Word now has it that he will indeed command European forces in Egypt, he is now in Jerusalem and I am very interested in seeing how his first campaign will go. This war will decide international actions for years to come, and has changed history forever.


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High Priest Tsaatan sat atop a grand golden chair in the center of his throne room.........his personal scribe, Khasha read to him from a scroll recieved from Europe concerning worldly news.....

Khasha: "High Priest Tsaatar........uh....um sir, they spelled your name incorrectly..."

Tsaatan: "Typical western idiocy, continue, continue...."

Khasha: "Takes Control of Mongolia, Drake Dynasty Ends After Nearly 5,000 Years!"

Tsaatan: (grinning)"and good riddance.......his attempts to fraternize with the white man and pigs of Egypt is disgusting. Continuing down the route that he was following would have surely led to the en-slavement of my people. All references to Drake shall be erased from the history books and any man holding allegiance to the king shall be sacrificed on the alter of the Statue of Power!"

Khasha: "Karakorum, Mongolia - In a seemingly bloodless revolution, King Drake VII of Mongolia was deposed by Buddhist Extremists (can that even exist?)."

Tsaatan: (Laughing)"Surely the pale faced fools of Europe don't think that Buddhism is the reason for this revolution do they? Perhaps this may work to our advantage though. We shall present this facade as long as we can...............GO ON MORON!"

Khasha: "Uh, yes uh.......High Priest Tsaatar not only declined to comment, but did not permit our Lutheran Reporter Hans Meuller entrance into Karakorum."

Tsaatan: "Would a dog intentionally allow a tick to infest it's hide?" "Would a farmer allow locusts to feed upon their crops?" "Why would I allow any man, of race other than that of our homeland, Asia, to desecrate the purity of our capital?" "This Napoleon is a fool........." Motions for Khasha to continue

Khasha: "The prime reason for this influx of Buddhism in Mongolia is indirectly due to the influx of Republicans in India. As the new ideal of Republicanism, and later Democracy took hold in India, the powerful Buddhist caste, including the Aristocracy, felt their grips upon India slipping."

Tsaatan: (Shaking his head)"This change has been coming for centuries. The Indians don't have anything to do with this......."

Khasha: "When Commandata Khalid took control, the Buddhists went north, bringing their wealth with them, thus ushering Tsaatar as the new High Priest of Mongolia." Said French historian Phillipe Aries."

Tsaatan: "Aries has kept his word I see.....he will be paid yearly as long as he keeps spreading this foolish information......Although totally in-accurate, I am sure the naive public of the European Union will buy into it."

Khasha: "After Tsaatar began his extremist movement, which culminated with the construction of a massive statue, the Drake Dynasty attempted to please the masses with a chest of gold. This pathetic attempt failed, and Drake was banished to Siberia where he, and his family (one wife and two children) reportedly died."

Tsaatan: "The attempt that Drake made to "fix" this problem, certainly was pathetic.......although we must have gold to fund our movement, there are some fundamental beliefs that everyone in Mongolia must share. And the "royal" family didn't see things the way the people did. As far as their fate is concerned, they are most certainly dead. The northern woods of Siberia are too harsh for any man to wander in....(laughing)...especially that decrepid old man and his pampered family. I delight particularly in thinking about Drake's young son freezing to death, and sealing the end to his fore-fathers pathetic dynasty........"

Tsaatan walked to the balcony in the palace and looked to the West..........a scowl crossed his face.......
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Istanbul, Turkey...

Drake Bonaparte, son of Napoleon sat upon his balcony at the family estate in Istanbul, gazing at the black sea. What a glorious day he thought, we are at the thresh-hold of power, our revolution will be achieved, thought the young man of 200 (around 14 in my perverted civ sense).

"Corporal Bonaparte" said a voice from within the house.

"Yes Hans?" asked the young officer.

"A most distressing thing has occured in Timanskij, please come quickly." The officer slowly turned and sighed, he was a handsome man, obviously of central asian stock, he knew he was adopted but loved his father, the Consul greatly.

He walked into a room with a man, unshaven and grizzly, looking frightened at an assembly of under-officers.

"Then they told me to leave, they called me a pig and made me watch them kill my children and rape my wife it was brutal!" the man said shaking.

"Who has done this? Was it the Egyptians!" demanded Drake.

"IT WAS YOU YOU BASTARD! Your sick people!" yelled the man as he stood up and ran at Drake.

"NO!" Yelled an officer as he punched the man in the face, "That is Drake Bonaparte, you know not what you do, you are sick and crazy!"

"I am not crazy, it is them, they have done this to me, they ruined my life!" yelled the man in his thick Russian accent.

"Who is this man" Demanded Bonaparte as the soldiers held the man down.

"Alexei Corbinoff, he is a Russian, well a Mongol technically." explained Hans.

"Mongol?" asked Bonaparte.

"Yes sir, he is from Bayanhongor (sp?), he was found in the woods of Timanskij ranting and raving, traders brought him here because he has family in Athens." said Hans.

"My god, who does he blame for this? Who would have done such a thing to this man?" asked Drake as he knelt down looking at the man struggling under the strength of the European soldiers.

"He says it was Tartars sir."

"Tartars?" said Drake as he stood up. "How could they have done this? Racism is such a disgusting philosophy." he shook his head.

"Tartar Soldiers sir." said Hans

"Soldiers? Of Tsataan? You must be kidding?" said Drake.

"That's what the man said, fully uniformed soldiers." said Hans as the soldiers carried the man out of the room. "Oh and yes, here is the report you requested from your father in Jerusalem, he is very happy."

"Put it on the table, please Hans leave me with my thoughts, I shall see you on the morrow." said Drake as he began walking towards the balcony.

"Aye sir."

"Oh yes and Hans, send for Cathrine, she is in Riga, I long for her touch." he said as he smiled. When Hans left Drake whispered "Soldiers?"
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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Nice posts & pic's. Seems that U play Civ as an excuse to tell stories & create pic's.
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Thanks! While it's the same game of civ that everyone else plays, having a storyline, like a movie, keeps things more interesting and purposeful. That's what multiplayers all about (if ya ask me). If there is no depth to a player and they have nothing interesting or exciting to say, they're really no more than a souped up AI- a little smarter, but still boring as cardboard. If you want to throw a historical spin on things, a civ game is great motivation to catch up on some history and learn a few things.....it's all about imagination

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No, no Macs in the bunch We are playing a scenario and the units/terrain were compiled for the Diplo Game, in a most aesthetically pleasing manner by The Capo.

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A Mongolian Propoganda poster which has been distributed to all cities in the province:



War has been declared against the evil and injust European Union!

It all started in the plains just south of the Ural mountains. A representative of the Mongolian army apporached a small band of Legionnaires who had set up camp and fortified a position parallel to the southern tip of the Urals.

&lt;&lt;background&gt;&gt;
Upon original agreements, signed centuries ago and honored up until this point, it was stated that the zone parallel to the south of the Urals would be a neutral zone between our two countries. All areas west of the Urals, European and to the East, Mongolian. The area in between was to serve as a buffer.
&lt;&lt;/background&gt;&gt;

The Mongolian representative requested that the European soldiers fall back and abide by the stated agreement. After a heated discussion, Europes intentions were clearly that of the fire starter. They taunted the Mongol with insults and declared that Mongolia was no longer recognized as a proper nation.
This of course angered the Mongol, but he was not there to start a war, he was there to uphold dignity and honor. Something that the Europeans had clearly forgotten about.

A most curious development had also occured in this meeting. A man, of Mongolian descent was of Corporal rank in the European Union army! He introduced himself as Drake Bonaparte. He seemed a most fair and just character but was dubbed a traitor and sellout by the loyalists of Tsaatan.

The end results of these meetings ended in a brutal slaying of an innocent messenger. Upon submitting a second request to the European soldiers to honor the contracts and move west, our messenger was murdered in cold blood. A lookout from the towers of Bayanhongor (directly to the east) could not make out what was being said in the brief meeting, but it was abruptly ended when one of the officers of the European army un-sheathed his musket and proceeded to shoot the messenger directly in his face. It was hard to make out, but from the lookouts vantage point, there was little left of the poor messengers head.

Trembling, the lookout called to his captain: "They have killed Khiqa! They f**king blew his head off!"
The warning bells of the city were rang and the people of the city ran around in a hysterical panick. Never before had they had to fear their neighbors, but times had changed.

It took little time for the word to reach Tsaatan in his palace. When it finally did, of course Tsaatan had no choice. This was a clear sign of aggression. Official papers were signed that formally made a declaration of war and were passed back to the front. And so, in the spring of 780AD, what the Mongols call "The Ural War" was began.


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Today the rebels of Tibet have overthrown the Indian Monarchy, and proclaming their leader SunTzu II, President of the Democratic Idian Republic, or the DIR.Alleged links of SunTzu II heretige to the famous Drake III have strengthened the Peace between the allies of the Mongolian Empire and the Democratic Indian Republic.
President SunTzu II earlier today said, "The time for change is now. Ask not what your country can do for you. But what you can do for your Country!" With these words the estatic crowd of 4million souls cheered wildly.
Changes implemented in the new government are as followed: Higher Luxury taxes to keep the citizens happy and productive, and more trade routes to the mighty Egyptian Empire.
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International News
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Last week, the European Union invaded the Egyptian Middle Eastern Territory. Cutting off supplies and reinforcements to Baghdad, making the Baghdad residents suffer through days of hunger and bloody fighting. The European Union cut off Baghdad by capturing Petra just southeast of Jerusalem.
But today brought a sign of relief, the Egyptian Expenditionary Forces took back Petra and Jerusalem 15hours ago. They continued to push east and north and captured the European Union city of Kuwait, cutting off the European Union's access to the Indian Ocean.
1.30hours ago Peace talks between the European Union and the Egyptian Empire began in the Indian city of Tehran. 30 minutes ago a Peace agreement was reached between the two warring nations.
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The Roma Tribune.
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TOP STORY: EU and Egypt sign Cease-Fire!
Cairo, Egypt - Century long struggle between the European Union and the Federal States of Egypt has ended in Cairo last week. This despite Indian Democratic propoganda holding the peace talks in Tehran, and Indian city. The war hit a fevered pitch when EU soldiers completley surrounded the last few cities in the upper Tigris and Euphrates rivers, nearly crushing Egypt's holdings in the Middle East, however at just the right moment a Christian Extremist Faction known as the Defenders of the Trinity began a major rebellion against the European thus freeing the land from Europe and back into the sway of Consul Kiya. Strangely enough, just after this rebellion (which was funded by Kiya and the Egyptians) ended, the Democratic Faction in Egypt took control of the government and began peace talks with the EU.
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"It had been a long war, and its cause would have been lost if it were not for the new Democratic Regime, we are saddened that we shall forever be known as the losers, but we are pleased that with our loss, comes peace." said Consul Bonaparte of the European Union. Experts speculate that were it not for the Defenders of the Trinity and their Egypt-Funded Rebellion in key cities like Jerusalem, Petra and Kuwait, the EU could have defeated the Egyptians in the Middle East. However, the huge rebellion, which must have recieved considerable funds came in proper time to consolidate Egyptian interests in the area. "I am personally not finished with this situation." commented Senate Majority Leader Michael Collins "We got into the war to stop this oppression of Muslims in the area, now that the DT has taken control, it will occur more often than not, this is a defeat not only for Europe, but for humanity." As of press time there is no word on a final peace agreement.

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Democratic Factions take control in Egypt, India!
Thebes, Egypt - The Nations of India and Egypt experienced major political upheavals this past week, when both of their respective Democratic Factions defeated their formally oppressive governments. The movements both come at decisive times in world history, as the Mongolian bohemoth of asia becomes more and more secluded, the nations of the world continue to unite under one common ideal; freedom.

Tension between the Holy Mongolian Empire and the EU mount!
Bayanhongor, Mongolia - The passing of S.R. 203 marked the beginning of a cold war that would soon prove scalding, the bill outlined specifically that the European Union would no longer consider the current government in Mongolia a legitimate government. "It is quite clear" explained German Senator Otto Von Bismark "Their government is exploitive, it hinders civil rights, and it is a racist regime. This qualities should not belong to a proper government of any nation, atrocities worse than the regime of Charles Martel have been reported by Mongols and Europens alike, a flux of refugees of both races is a pretty good sign that this new regime only cares for control." There have been many words exchanged on an international level, including the breaking of a treaty signed between Charlemagne and Drake I of Mongolia. "According to the Mongols" says English Senator Cromwell "the treaty outlines a neutral zone, well I am hard pressed to find it within the document myself, and their insistance that it exists is ridiculous, they are using any excuse they can find for war, and if they wish for war, then they shall have it!" The European Union has further denied allegations that a European Officer had in fact shot dead a Mongolian Messenger. As of this time Tsaatan has declined any and all European attempts at peace talks, and will not speak with the EU Associated Press.

(I apologize for this short post, but I have hardly any time, and will make another ASAP, sorreh!)
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Paris, France; Consulate Palace....

Napoleon: Alright, well, on to the next topic.

Sen. Collins: Yes, the war with Mongolia, here is the report my people have compiled sir. (Hands folder to Napoleon).

Naploeon: This is general information, I want some specifics here, Drake, what happened.

Drake: It was unavoidable father, err Sir...

Napoleon: Uh huh, go on...

Drake: The Mongols told us to leave, they said that we are violating the Neutral Zone. I have studied European treaties extensivley, nowhere in the treaty we signed with Mongolia does it ever mention any type of Neutral Zone. The Mongols did mention within the papers, a "No Man's Land" but this is understood to be a mere description of the terrain rather than any sort of official terminology.

Sen. Collins: What about the Mongol, the dead one?

Drake: What about him?

Sen. Collins: Well, what happened there?

Drake: Well, he was shot, we killed him.

Sen. Collins: Jesus, what the fu-

Drake: But we got rid of the body, there is no evidence.

Napoleon: Perfect, keep the soldiers out there, we do not want this information getting to the press. Keep them at their posts, they will either die or at least will stay out there away from civilization. So that is an easy fix-

Drake: Sir, there is one issue however. It was an officer, Captain Hitler, from Vienna who killed the messenger.

Napoleon: And?

Drake: Well he was relieved of his post sir, he is well, we don't know where he is actually. He left, he was angered.

Napoleon: Hopefully he doesn't take this to the press, we made an official release assuring the public that we did not draw first blood, now this?

Drake: I am sorry father...

Sen. Collins: It doesn't matter sir, we have ways of making sure this guy doesn't talk....

Napoleon: Mick, no, none of that! We are not rebel rabble anymore, we are a nation. I am being tested now, after the surrender at Cairo I don't believe our Union can stand another defeat...

Sen. Collins: Don't worry General, we will be victorious. We must, if we lose the world is at risk.
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Deep with the palace walls of Karakorum:

Tsaatan spat a wad of flem upon the floor and moaned. He was dying of pneumonia. He motioned for his son, Batu to come closer.

(Hacking and coughing)"Listen to me Batu....it is your destiny to bring Mongolia to glory....(coughing miserably).....The infidels of the western world must be brought to their knees......as I have taught you, they are the scum of the earth and if you let them, they will take us all over, raping our women and killing our children.....(with hate in his eyes)....I also want you to capture the commander who started this war and carry his head upon a spear for all the people of the country to see...........(spits again)....I also want you to burn the city of Jerusalem to the ground. It is the nest of all evil that resides in Europe.......Do this, and I will rest peacefully in my grave.........

Batu nods his head and bows to his father...."Your wish is my command father..."
He starts for the door with fire in his eyes...
(Tsaatan)"Son!"
"Yes father?"
"Take this with you.........." he reaches under his bed and withdraws a golden dagger with encrusted jewels and hands it to Batu. "Use this sacrificial dagger and make an offering to the altar at the Statue of Power......take that white explorer we found wandering in the Ural mountains with you......(with a glint in his eyes)....he will make a perfect sacrifice....."

Batu nods with a wry grin on his face and exits the room.......

Soon after his son departs, Tsaatan realizes that he is starting to cough up blood......he dies before the day is over.
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Last time we played I was told we were taking off 2 weeks, and that we would resume play on Jan. 10.
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Old January 5, 2001, 19:36   #78
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Julius Brenzandia has found out how to surpass the 255 city limit!!!!

Ultradip is saved!!!!!
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After a long, life threatening journey through the Himalayas, Mongolian traders have finally reached the Indian controlled country of Bangladesh. Here, they hope to interest local merchants in silk and gold.

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Old January 11, 2001, 12:35   #80
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"Batu, the word has arrived from the front!" yelled an anxious young Mongol from the streets in front of the Karakorum palace.

Batu walked to his balcony with a gleem in his eyes. He was confident that his armies had been victorious, but he was still nervous. The Europeans were still an army to be reckoned with.

"It has been a rout! The White man has been driven back from our sacred land! They ran to the mountains like scared little children!" yelled the Mongol.

Batu smiled....."Quick boy, come up here and tell me all about the good news!"...

The young Mongol knealt before Batu as he walked into his chambers. From his satchel, he pulled out a small scroll. He began to read:

Greatest Batu,

It is with the greatest pride that I send this messenger to you. Our armies have been victorious in the steppes just south of the Urals. Our clearly marked territory had been desecrated by the white man's presence and so we dispatched knights to deal with the situation. We quickly learned that there were three divisions of forces in our homeland. A legion, and a troop composed of archers and Crusaders. Apparently their "invasion" was poorly thought out and a rout ensued.

Our well trained veteran knights first slaughtered the archers and crusaders in a mighty display of ferocity and strength. The knights returned to Bayanhongor wounded and tired, but as heroes.

In the second battle, years later, a European band of Crusaders attempted to rush our musketeers who had been fortified just outside the Bayanhongor city limits. This attack quickly turned into a shooting gallery and was squished like a bug. It took weeks to clear the white man's bodies from the desert sands.

Our third and final victory to report was a message to Europe. The legion troop who initially had entered our territory were on the run to the West. Those cowards! Bayanhongor's finest division of Crusaders quickly caught up with the fleeing Legionnaires and in a surprise attack, killed them effortlessly. They will know now that we are not to be played with. It's almost sad that there had to be so many casualties, but being that the whites are sub-human, the guilt involved with killing a human was removed.

And so ended the first encounter with Europe's pathetic army. Your recent investment into the Mongolian military has payed off. I hope your men have brought you as much pride as they have brought me. Hope all is well in Karokorum. Please send the good word to my son in Bokhara.

General Tughrik

Batu smiled and thanked the messenger for his prompt arrival. He then sent him off to bring word to the people of Bokhara and other eastern provinces.
With an evil grin on his face: "This is just the beginning............."
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800AD-920AD
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After Years of unrest in the new Democratic States of India, SunTzu II and his family: Margaret and SunTzu III his Son, were drove out of India by ex-King Neria. SunTzu II and his family moved to Paris in the European Union.
Margaret, the sister of Napoleon Bonaparte was secretly leading the terrorist group, The Red Mask.
Who was secretly planning on the overthrow of Napoleon and the Republic European Union.
Ten years after fleeing to Paris, SunTzu II was murdered in the street by Bonapartists. Enraged SunTzu III took arms with his mother and planed the assination of Napoleon.
On July 14, 870AD SunTzu III and The Army of The Red Mask, stormed the presidential palace in Paris along with 10,000 other parisians.
SunTzu III murdered Napoleon and dragged his body through the streets and throwing him into the Siene River. SunTzu III, now the age of 26, took control of the European Union, and renamed the country the Democratic Union of Europe.
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Years have passed since the Arabaic Wars have taken place. The captured European civilans who have lived under European control for hundreds of years cried out for their savoirs to free them from the opressive Egyptians.
SunTzu III knew in his heart that he could not let his people suffer.
He thus declared unconditional war on the Democracy of Egypt, on the grounds of oppression of European civilans.
The First attack came at Antioch and Damascus. The Evil and treacherous Egyptians bribed, Antioch and Damascus, while killing thousands of civilians.
Two Caravels filled to the brim with European Crusaders from Rome set sail for the port city of Tripoli in the Egyptian homeland.
The Egyptians broke the Gilbralter defenses and landed in Lisbon virtually unmolested. Taking Lisbon they have gained control on the European continent.
The Romans landed on all sides of Tripoli but were forced into the sea after killing the military fortified in the city and then burned the major residential area of tripoli.
10,000 military and civilian losses were recorded in the Battle of Tripoli.
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Batu's forces grew and grew and Europe's army was deployed to Russia to engage in the Ural War. A most bloody battle ensued in years to come and both sides were dealt great losses. In the year 1280, after years of fighting it came to an end................

The rest will have to occur in your imagination, for Ultradip has seen it's last week this week. It is a sad announcement I must make, but I feel the players and community must know why.

1) Though it was good intentioned, the world is just too damn big to do anything constructive. The 255 city limit crippled the possibility of having a worldly community.
2) Rounds were taking forever and in the frame of a game, we were really just at the beginning.
3) There wasn't a great deal of interaction between the players. (ie:There wasn't enough diplomacy for a diplo game)
4) Anonymous players have expressed an interest to end this game for quite some time for above reasons, and perpetuating a game that had lost it's interest doesn't make much sense.
5) There was no posting really.
6) Various other reasons that don't involve me.

To round it up, it just got too boring to continue. I really wanted to beat the diplo curse of games folding up, but this is an obstacle that is un-able to be negotiated. You can't breathe life into a dead horse. Don't ask me where I got that expression, I don't know.

So, from the Drake Dynasty, and the Fundamentalist nutcases, Tsaatan and Batu, I bid the Ultimate Diplomatic game fairwell. It's un-fortunate that Genghis Khan will never make an appearance. He was to be born in two or three centuries.........
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Well that's too bad, I was enjoying financing (thru tech) Egypt's wars with Europe.

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im out also. It was a good game, but the problems Drake mentioned ruined it.

To big, turns took to long. War was a ridiculous enterprise, because there was to much space, it was impossible to conduct. The only succesful campigian in the game was through bribing, which was amazingly easy because of the epic Empire size of all of us. The turns took ENTIRELY too long. I begged for a time limit, but guys, this last session, I was playing N64 while the game went on and barely noticed anything. Im sure thats bad, but when it takes 30 minutes to complete ONE turn, youve gotten ridiculous.

Anyways, im glad we played the game, and hopefully we can learn from these mistakes. Id like another Wenseday night game, just smaller map =)
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.....!!!No!!!....

I think it is wrong to end this game now! We should play until the end no matter how boring it is at the moment; Its civ; it will always be fun again..

..After we have played 10(?)-12(?) times, and for a total of 50-60 hours (all of them at the night between 01 and 05-06) it is "stupid" to "throw them away" by ending the game.. ..i really tought that this game would be played until the end; this game would be THE game that would "stand the test of time".. .. but nope, we ended this game too before its time. .its sad.

Anyway; i guess this is final, and we will never play this game again.. (wich i dont hope); so i wishes to thank everybody for a great game and a great civ experience for me. I, for once, had a great time! It was the first diplogame i have ever played, and it was fun from the first years until the end.. Everything, (except its ending), has been worth some nights sleep and lost math-classes. Thanks for a great game everybody!.

..and i hope that we will play a game together again some time, if you start a new game (preferably on a better time.. please let me know if you do.. (..and I promise to be better at making posts, talking with people, etc, if we play another game)..

thanks.

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Old January 12, 2001, 18:57   #86
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While I don't believe in formally ending a Diplogame, I guess its been done. There's not much left to say about this game, it was good, but it had too much going against it from the start.

I knew American was funding Egypt the entire time, I think that's basic international knowledge of the EU's claims against our "brothers" accross the drink. But whatever, the point is moot...

The game ended, when it did at least, based on the actions of one person, I expect this person to take full responsability for what he had done to this game, he couldn't help it, it was tempting to do, any other method, any other action would have resulted in wasted time and resources. This person, again knows who he is, and he should be utterly ashamed of himself, even when I tried to reason with him, when I tried to tell him not to do what he did, that the game would be destroyed if he did it, he continued, he only cared about himself and not the others......


His name is the Capo.
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Old January 13, 2001, 02:59   #87
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I thought you were talking about me, i was about to say. Its no ones fault the game ended. I didn't mind the long turns, it was the size of the map. If the game designers wouldn't have put a stupid limit to nearly everything in the game, the game would be more entertaining.
Sid, i hope your listening, NO LIMITS IN CIV3!
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Magnus, the only reason you want to continue is your in the lead with 60 cities. Youve already taken advantage of the system by intentially grabbing as many cities as you could to reach the limit with an unfair advantage, then your persued a campigian of bribing cities for Capos sub. Quite frankly for all your dedication you were underhanded and not very fun to play with. Im glad you want to continue systematically bribing a someones subs cities, but im not having any fun, nethier is anyone else.
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hey chris man dont bring that up becasue then it will start an argument.

AND YEAH MAGNUS WHATS UP WITH THAT!
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Well it did piss me off everytime he bribed my cities. But hey i think it was legal to bribe so no harm done. You war monger you! lol
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