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Old March 20, 2000, 11:33   #31
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7.62? That's the standard NATO calliber, isn't it? I'd imagine that the 5mm versions would me more popular (because new NATO members are selling their now non-standard armament).
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Unless it's changed very recently, 5.56 is(was) the standard NATO rifle and squad automatic weapon round. NATO 7.62 is the standard medium machine gun round.

7.62 x 39 is the old Warsaw pact standard everything round, until you get to heavy and AA machine guns (13mm and 15mm) The current standard Russian round is 5.45 mm, with the introduction of the AK-74M in the 80s.

I haven't kept up with any recent changes, since my soldiering days are done.

Things have quieted down now, but the new guys have a cool weapon - it's a modern remake of the WWII M-2 automatic carbine. Composite materials, collapsible wire stock, .308 caliber (lot more punch than 5.56 mm, without the range or penetration of the 5.56 or 7.62 NATO or 7.62 by 39 rounds, since it's a carbine barrel. Nice street sweeper , without the excess range and penetration to accidentally kill somebody in their house two blocks away. Looks like a real sweet gun, and the collapsing stock looks a bit like Steyr's or FN's design style.
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I think I have confused something. Well, I'm not what you may call a "munitions expert" . BTW, what the Hell is a "collapsible wire stock" ?

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