Thread Tools
Old January 28, 2000, 23:06   #1
zsozso
Alpha Centauri PBEMSpore
Prince
 
zsozso's Avatar
 
Local Time: 02:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: of Chiron
Posts: 806
turns of ACT010 game of Apolyton 2000 tournament
The players of this game:

Please, read and obey the rules posted on the thread Apolyton 2000 Alpha Centauri PBEM Tournament

You should post turn administration/notification messages below.

zsozso is offline  
Old January 28, 2000, 23:43   #2
MichaeltheGreat
Apolytoners Hall of Fame
Apolyton Grand Executioner
 
MichaeltheGreat's Avatar
 
Local Time: 23:48
Local Date: October 30, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Fenway Pahk
Posts: 1,755
Please send any emails to Michaelthegreatest@yahoo.com until Monday, as my ISP mail server is down.

Thanks a lot.
MichaeltheGreat is offline  
Old January 29, 2000, 08:19   #3
Cedronian
Prince
 
Cedronian's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 430
MY 2101 sent to Morgans.

It´s going to be fun playing you guys and good luck!

//Ced.
Cedronian is offline  
Old January 29, 2000, 11:07   #4
Tau Ceti
King
 
Tau Ceti's Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 2,151
I have a small problem: it seems my Morganites only got 4 of their rightful 5 Scout Patrols. Not entirely crippling, but rather annoying, especially with Morgan's support penalty. Zsozso, could you fix this and restart the game?
Tau Ceti is offline  
Old January 29, 2000, 22:58   #5
Tau Ceti
King
 
Tau Ceti's Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 2,151
2101 to Peacekeepers. Their leader appears to have suffered the misfortune of being called MichaledtheGreat (sic).
Tau Ceti is offline  
Old January 30, 2000, 02:38   #6
MichaeltheGreat
Apolytoners Hall of Fame
Apolyton Grand Executioner
 
MichaeltheGreat's Avatar
 
Local Time: 23:48
Local Date: October 30, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Fenway Pahk
Posts: 1,755
MY2101 to Cedronian.

Good luck to all.
MichaeltheGreat is offline  
Old January 30, 2000, 16:00   #7
MichaeltheGreat
Apolytoners Hall of Fame
Apolyton Grand Executioner
 
MichaeltheGreat's Avatar
 
Local Time: 23:48
Local Date: October 30, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Fenway Pahk
Posts: 1,755
MY2103 to Provost Cedronian
MichaeltheGreat is offline  
Old January 30, 2000, 19:57   #8
Cedronian
Prince
 
Cedronian's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 430
2103 sent to the Morganites.
Cedronian is offline  
Old January 31, 2000, 12:57   #9
zsozso
Alpha Centauri PBEMSpore
Prince
 
zsozso's Avatar
 
Local Time: 02:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: of Chiron
Posts: 806
Hi Guys,

Cedronian has pointed out a bug in the scenario file I used for this game: The peacekeepers start with very low (9) tech cost despite the fact, that they have all level 1 techs. I checked other scenario files too, it did not happen in other places and I have no idea why is it here. Any way, please check if it realy is the case in the game and the other 2 players have high starting cost. In which case I will restart the game to make it fair.

Sorry for the inconvenience...
zsozso is offline  
Old January 31, 2000, 14:02   #10
Tau Ceti
King
 
Tau Ceti's Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 2,151
My tech cost is normal. I just sent the turn to MtG so he can check.

I believe the cause of the problem is that zsozso created the scenario by modifying an existing scenario where the Peacekeepers had previously been eliminated to make room for another faction. I did that once, and I seem to recall that their tech cost was then absurdly low.

To be safe, all scenarios should be made by modifying the very first scenario.
[This message has been edited by Tau Ceti (edited January 31, 2000).]
Tau Ceti is offline  
Old January 31, 2000, 15:34   #11
Cedronian
Prince
 
Cedronian's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 430
Ehh, did I point that out? I´ve seen nothing wrong with the tech in the game but if there is something wrong, we should do something about it to make the game fair.

Ced.
Cedronian is offline  
Old January 31, 2000, 15:50   #12
MichaeltheGreat
Apolytoners Hall of Fame
Apolyton Grand Executioner
 
MichaeltheGreat's Avatar
 
Local Time: 23:48
Local Date: October 30, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Fenway Pahk
Posts: 1,755
My tech cost is also 9, as if I had no previous techs. I've seen the occasional game where this was done for all factions, despite tech acceleration, but normally, you get the full labs accumulation when you accelerated techs. Normally, eliminating and reloading a faction has no effect, but the SE is so flaky I always clear all factions and reload when I build scenarios.

Should I hold the turn and wait for reissue of the game?

My regular email at michaelm@bc.cablemas.com is now working, but please cc the yahoo account to make sure.
[This message has been edited by MichaeltheGreat (edited January 31, 2000).]
MichaeltheGreat is offline  
Old January 31, 2000, 17:39   #13
zsozso
Alpha Centauri PBEMSpore
Prince
 
zsozso's Avatar
 
Local Time: 02:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: of Chiron
Posts: 806
Sorry, it was Pagan[CyC] who pointed it out. But the point is, that th ebug exists, other player have tech cost of 149 (or somehting like that possibly modified by SE). So it is quite unfair.

Sorry for the mistake, I have fixed the scenario but don't have time to create the restart right now, will do it tonight.

Zsozso
zsozso is offline  
Old January 31, 2000, 23:27   #14
MichaeltheGreat
Apolytoners Hall of Fame
Apolyton Grand Executioner
 
MichaeltheGreat's Avatar
 
Local Time: 23:48
Local Date: October 30, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Fenway Pahk
Posts: 1,755
I got two artifacts and some other good results on my first turn, but starting over is OK with me. It's alot easier than rebuilding the scenario with everyone's moves.
MichaeltheGreat is offline  
Old February 1, 2000, 05:50   #15
Cedronian
Prince
 
Cedronian's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 430
I had a pretty good start too, but starting over is fine by me.
Cedronian is offline  
Old February 3, 2000, 07:34   #16
Cedronian
Prince
 
Cedronian's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 430
Hello,

I will be gone for three days and won´t be able to make any turns until sunday. Since it looks like we are going to start over, I guess it doesn´t matter that much.

Ced.
Cedronian is offline  
Old February 8, 2000, 01:39   #17
zsozso
Alpha Centauri PBEMSpore
Prince
 
zsozso's Avatar
 
Local Time: 02:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: of Chiron
Posts: 806
Restart file sent to Cedronian. Sorry for the delay...
zsozso is offline  
Old February 8, 2000, 12:50   #18
Tau Ceti
King
 
Tau Ceti's Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 2,151
New 2101 sent to MichaeltheGreat.
Tau Ceti is offline  
Old February 9, 2000, 06:57   #19
MichaeltheGreat
Apolytoners Hall of Fame
Apolyton Grand Executioner
 
MichaeltheGreat's Avatar
 
Local Time: 23:48
Local Date: October 30, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Fenway Pahk
Posts: 1,755
2102 Turn sent to UoP.

I had a reload error from using the wrong password. I thought I typoed it, and reused the Hive one from my other games here.

Just to confirm, my tech cost is 9 labs. My other ACT games, it's 170 to start. Is everyone else at 9 labs for their starting tech costs?
MichaeltheGreat is offline  
Old February 9, 2000, 07:44   #20
Cedronian
Prince
 
Cedronian's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 430
MY2102 sent to the Morganites.

I also got a Save/Load-error even though I only opened the file once. When I opened the file it said that I already had opened it, which I hadn`t. Weird... I will check my labs the next turn.

Ced.
Cedronian is offline  
Old February 9, 2000, 15:07   #21
Tau Ceti
King
 
Tau Ceti's Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 2,151
2102 to MichaeltheGreat. My tech cost is higher, above 150 at least (I do not remember the exact number).

I got the "you have previously played" warning on my first load as well. I am wondering if it might be because the file name and turn number were the same as they were the last time we played this turn.
Tau Ceti is offline  
Old February 9, 2000, 18:53   #22
MichaeltheGreat
Apolytoners Hall of Fame
Apolyton Grand Executioner
 
MichaeltheGreat's Avatar
 
Local Time: 23:48
Local Date: October 30, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Fenway Pahk
Posts: 1,755
It's because it was created from the same initial scenario file. SMAC stores a file ID in your user.dat and system.dat files.

MY 2103 sent to UoP
MichaeltheGreat is offline  
Old February 10, 2000, 06:35   #23
Cedronian
Prince
 
Cedronian's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 430
2103 sent to the Morgans.

I got Save/Load-errors again, but I guess they´ll go away once we get past those turns that we have already played?
Cedronian is offline  
Old February 10, 2000, 12:54   #24
Tau Ceti
King
 
Tau Ceti's Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 2,151
2103 to MichaeltheGreat.

Was this game not restarted precisely because Michael's tech cost was lower than the others? That problem has apparently not been fixed.
Tau Ceti is offline  
Old February 10, 2000, 18:54   #25
Tau Ceti
King
 
Tau Ceti's Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 2,151
2104 to MichaeltheGreat.
Tau Ceti is offline  
Old February 12, 2000, 20:10   #26
MichaeltheGreat
Apolytoners Hall of Fame
Apolyton Grand Executioner
 
MichaeltheGreat's Avatar
 
Local Time: 23:48
Local Date: October 30, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Fenway Pahk
Posts: 1,755
MY 2105 to Cedronian

My network and email configuration decided to shred itself, so I had to reinstall Windoze98 and everything else. Sorry about the delay.
MichaeltheGreat is offline  
Old February 12, 2000, 23:30   #27
Cedronian
Prince
 
Cedronian's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 430
Ouch, that sounds like a real hassle MichaeltheGreat.

MY2105 sent to Tau Ceti.
Cedronian is offline  
Old February 13, 2000, 04:36   #28
Tau Ceti
King
 
Tau Ceti's Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 2,151
2105 to MichaeltheGreat.

Wealth: Provost Cedronian

You must have been getting a lot of cash from pods.
Tau Ceti is offline  
Old February 13, 2000, 08:04   #29
MichaeltheGreat
Apolytoners Hall of Fame
Apolyton Grand Executioner
 
MichaeltheGreat's Avatar
 
Local Time: 23:48
Local Date: October 30, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Fenway Pahk
Posts: 1,755
I never keep EC's around long enough to lead in the wealth category. I've got 18 ec at this turn.

MY 2106 to Cedronian.
MichaeltheGreat is offline  
Old February 13, 2000, 11:23   #30
Cedronian
Prince
 
Cedronian's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:48
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 430
MY 2106 sent to Morgans.

Hmm, yes I think I struck a goldmine at one pod. But a lot of nasty worms have erupted too...
Cedronian is offline  
 

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:48.


Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Apolyton Civilization Site | Copyright © The Apolyton Team