LIST ver 2: Download Here!

yin26 · November 10, 1999, 22:20

Thanks go to Markos for making things as easy for us as possible. He has just made the list (ver 2) downloadable here. And he promises an HTML version in the future.

I'd like to suggest to people that they take a look at the list before making any suggestions, as there is a good chance your idea has already been discussed. Although the list is 479 pages, it is broken down very well into sections, so you can find your area of interest quite easily.

Anyway, there are no plans as of now for a version 3, but you never know what could happen in the event Firaxis asks for more (but that seems unlikely).

November 10, 1999, 23:32

I don't know what fonts have been used, but half the page I can't view. Just a bunch of block characters and mumbo jumbo. I don't care myself, but i'm worried that Firaxis won't be able to read it either.

November 10, 1999, 23:37

Oh, and I feel sorry for Firaxis, having to read all that. There are probably more ideas in there than any other game ever made, including board games! But if they do read it, learn from it and put the ideas to use, they're bound to come up with the best game ever created.

yin26 · November 11, 1999, 00:20

Icedan,

I downloaded it again and it worked fine. Hmmm. Well, if Firaxis had a problem, they never said anything. Then again, they never said they got the file either, so who knows?

Hopefully they read it and got some good ideas...

Theben · November 11, 1999, 02:19

Hopefully they'll scan through it for gems and set those aside for discussion...I'd hate to think it was all for nought.

November 11, 1999, 06:39

Whether they use all of the ideas or none, that doesn't mean this was all for nothing.
The entire journey to try make the next Civilization the best game possible, a game that the PEOPLE want, was a very important journey.

I remember reading that Firaxis are going to put a page up on Civ3 soon, hopefully before next year! That will flare interest back up again. I loved it when CtP was in progress. Everyone had something to talk about, now...It's the Off Topic that is amusing.

Good things take time.

November 11, 1999, 16:35

130+ downloads for v2 so far...

no mail response Yin?

yin26 · November 11, 1999, 20:51

Markos,

No. I mailed it to four people, so I'm sure at least one of them got it. I think they might have taken a one-week vacation after finishing SMACX? What do you think?

Yin

November 12, 1999, 03:28

hmm no clue

Maniac · November 12, 1999, 15:57

Hey, my system included in the list2 here isn't the most recent one!

raingoon · November 12, 1999, 16:34

The summary was really a gift and I hope they do acknowledge it. But in the end, I predict the detailed response to our ideas that we all wish for will come in the form of the game itself.

We have to remember too that the folks on the Civ 3 design team have been reading threads here, and at SidGames.com (and Firaxis) from the beginning. They've acknowledged on their own website that Apolyton and SidGames are the headquarters for fan input, period. They've been debating the merits of these ideas right along side us, count on it. We have in fact sent them a summary of threads they've poured over, in some cases, countless times already. And since our goal is to help shape the game, we should be in such a fortunate position.

I know from Blair Wolf that the "report ticker" idea has been debated for a month, but as yet without concensus. And BW would not have asked for our input in the first place if debating Apolyton ideas was not the norm around Firaxis. I think we're like the advisers they can click on and off (with Yin definitely the Elvis).

I applaud recent efforts to direct everyone to the new wish list to prevent posting old ideas. Maybe you should almost have to link through the wish list in order to get to the suggestion threads in the future. Anyway, the threads are probably more useful and inspirational than we know.

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Maniac · November 12, 1999, 17:22

???????
Do you have Firaxis insider information we/I don't know off?

raingoon · November 12, 1999, 20:16

No. Just an e-mail from Blair Wolf that said they are debating the ticker idea. I personally know of nothing more than that. But my assumption is that they have been and will be debating other ideas from Apolyton and SidGames. I don't think you have to be on the inside of Firaxis to figure that one out. These are great ideas!
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yin26 · November 12, 1999, 21:14

raingoon:

Thanks for the info!

Nobody has sent me any mail about this stuff, but as long as the ideas are getting through, that's all that matters.

M@ni@c:

I tried to give everybody a last shot at catching problems. I guess I let one slip through. My bad.

Yin
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November 13, 1999, 05:37

Report Ticker, I remember hearing about that idea, had no idea what it was, but recently I had to install a java applet, called "News Ticker". Now I know what it is!! haha!! What a great idea, awesome.

Maniac · November 13, 1999, 12:42

Yin, don't fret about it. I've sent a mail to breynolds@firaxis.com with an update, together with a weakened version of, you know, that personal comment of mine.

BTW, are there people here that send/mail their ideas regularly to Firaxis instead of just posting them here?? Then I guess I've joined the club.

PS: can somebody give me a description of a report ticker?
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November 13, 1999, 16:09

Maniac, go here, http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~knowles/Main.htm

You'll see the news ticker on the left hand side, it has an orange background.

Imagine having that on your interface, this way you'll know what is going on at all times, without having to open any other windows.

Maniac · November 13, 1999, 17:14

Thanks.
SMAC already had something similar to this, though it didn't scroll on itself, and I found it a VERY good improvement (actually I like the entire SMAC interface with hyperlinks etc).

Theben · November 14, 1999, 14:56

Maniac, I've wondered that, too. I never sent anything personally since I was afraid they'd ignore things directly sent, but I would like to send the latest version of COMBAT to him. So how about it, yin, (BrianR? are you here?) would they take it?

Harel · November 14, 1999, 15:44

Yin, where is MY social model? I sent it to you, and posted it in the social model threads! Everyone's model is there but mine!

November 15, 1999, 00:55

Social Model? What's that
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yin26 · November 15, 1999, 02:35

Harel,

Damn! I knew something like this would happen--that's why I e-mailed everybody AND posted the file for one last check. Anyway, I accept the blame.

However, please e-mail it to Firaxis, since you put a lot of thought into it.

Yin