Idea for new game: Momtentium/Hybrid/Builder

The Commodore · June 1, 2001, 14:48

Hi guys. I'm a dedicated hybrid, and it is my opinion that Hybrids, played well, will win most of their games, due to the flexiblity that is inherit in going hybrid. However, before I make such a complete statement my moto, I'd like to test that idea versus humans.(AI is worthless for that sort of test.)

So, here it is. I want to start a Momentum vs. Hybrid vs. Builder game on a large map, with transend level AI, normal seas, native life and erosion. Blind research off, Look first on, all other settings open to suggestions. (It will be SMAX v.2)

The plan is for a game of three players, but if more wish to join I guess I can set up a second game, like Misotu did with her teams series. I'm not looking for Sun Tzu here, just ask that you can take on a transend AI.

I'll be playing Morgan, as the Hybrid in this game. I'm thinking of styles, not factions, so if you want to be, for instance, a Warmongering Cyborg, momentum, that's fine.

To join, post here and contact me at: jbgibson@iol-12.net

Join!

Deimos · June 1, 2001, 17:16

All right, you have your Builder opponent. I'll take the UoP.

The map settings you mentioned already sound fine. As far as the other settings, I'd suggest that we leave all victory conditions enabled, pods on, and the rest off.

By the way, Misotu is a very accomplished female SMAC/X master ... err ... mistress ... err ... player.

The Commodore · June 1, 2001, 20:20

I know...I'm lucky enough to be playing her in another game.

Sorry...I had forgot about victory conditions...I allways have them all on. Didn't realy think about it. But ya, all victory conditions shall be on, and pods will be there.

Oh, and a CMN would be nice.

The Commodore · June 2, 2001, 19:15

Oh come now...30 people have veiwed this thread...are none of them Momentum?

Misotu · June 2, 2001, 20:01

Not me ... I wouldn't be a worthy momentum opponent. I know a guy who would though - Garth Vader. I don't know if he's looking for another game right now, but you could email him at steelga@home.com to see if he would be interested. If he's up for another game, he would definitely give you a run for your money!

I played a few builder vs momentum games one on one with him, and he's a tough cookie

Garth Vader · June 2, 2001, 20:11

I don't have SMACX, only SMAC, so if you wanted to play that instead I'd be in.

The Commodore · June 2, 2001, 23:09

Well...both Deimos and I chose SMAC factions. Unless he objects, I could turn it into a SMAC game.

I'll ask...

Deimos · June 3, 2001, 20:30

SMAC's fine by me. I look forward to the opportunity of playing against the both of you.

Have you found a CMN yet? Also, are you planning on setting this up as a scenario with just the three of us or are you going to have the other 4 target drones, er, I mean AI factions in there too?

The Commodore · June 3, 2001, 21:30

Target drones, ahoy! Yes...AI will be there for us to use in any legal way we can.

I'll e-mail Tau...

cpt.slick · June 4, 2001, 05:33

hey is there room for another...

i play as yang hybrid style if its cool i'm in ...

btw i can play as whomever tho
l8r

cpt.slick · June 4, 2001, 05:41

btw the email in my account details isn't correct its sgtslick@hotmail.com

its hotmail thats why well thanx again

The Commodore · June 4, 2001, 10:29

Ok...Tau has final exams, so I suppose we could still use a CMN. Misotu?

Cap.slick...you want a second game? Well...I did say I'd set up more if more were interested. Ok...you can be a Hybrid Yang in Game#2. I suppose I'll play a Momentum Santiago in Game #2. Any builders? And Cap, do you have SMAX?

Googlie · June 4, 2001, 11:05

I'd be happy to CMN it.

Need some guidance, though, on how easy you'd want the game to be (e.g. do you want the builder faction to be on easily exploitable land, suitable for growth and infrastructure build, with nearby nutrient and minerals tiles, and some monoliths - or do you want him to be challenged.

Likewise, do you want the momentum faction to be on a large landmass with access to 2 AI factions for conquest - and do you want the hybrid to be a hybrid of these conditions?

And how dumb do you want the AI to be? (you can tweak them to at least give some strategy and alliance potential - at least with each other - and you can start them with some early advantages (a couple of forest tiles, maybe even a crawler or two alrady on forested squares - if you have tried the Roze or Morgan challenge over at CGN, you'll know how tough a tweaked AI can be)

Let me know if you'd like me to CMN it and as I say, give some guidance as to how easy a cakewalk you want it

G.

The Commodore · June 4, 2001, 12:35

Sounds good, Googlie, as far as the map goes.

As for the AI, by all means tweak the intel, but don't give them extra crawlers or forest.

Thanks for CMN-ing this. Ok, map and AI for game #1 as you say...Builder is Deimos, UoP. Hybrid is Commodore, Morganites. Momentum is Garth Vader, whatever faction he choses. No blind research, no unity survey, look first, do or die, large map, all victories enabled, pods on. SMAC

For game #2, I shall be Momentum, Spartans. cpt.slick will be Hybrid, Hive. No builder yet...still open. SMAX if possible.

Garth Vader · June 4, 2001, 15:53

I'll play the Spartans.

Your idea of starting the factions in good positions, ie builder with good terrain, momentum on a large continent with AI's, hybrid as a mixture is a good one.

I would suggest against giving the AI's extra resources, but any extra allying between them is fine with me.

Deimos · June 4, 2001, 17:07

Googlie's ideas for tweaking the setup are also fine by me.

Thanks for volunteering to be the CMN Googlie!

Rynn: · June 5, 2001, 12:55

Deimos:

Still waiting for a response from you as to which free tech you want as the Uni.

Otherwise, all set and ready to go

Googlie

Deimos · June 5, 2001, 20:22

Googlie,

I've responded to your email.

Deimos

Googlie · June 5, 2001, 23:31

BHM is underway

2102 has been sent to Deimos

Post your turn notifications and other interesting details here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=20354

Good luck all

Garth Vader · June 6, 2001, 11:16

Can somebody post Deimos's email address?

Googlie · June 6, 2001, 12:41

GV:

I e-mailed it to you when I sent you your password

G.

Deimos · June 7, 2001, 21:05

Commodore,

I wouldn't mind playing in the second game, but I would like to play a role other than builder for this one, since I am already operating in that role in the first game.

Would you mind playing the builder in BHM #2?

The Commodore · June 7, 2001, 21:41

Ok...I'll play PK as builder.

Tell Google your faction...and if slick won't mind, we'll use SMAX.

Deimos · June 8, 2001, 02:03

Commodore: Thanks for being flexible on your role choice. SMACX is my prefered version, so you'll get no argument from me

Googlie: Set me up as the Spartans for game 2.