I finally won a occ!!!

MacUser · August 7, 2000, 22:57

Taking Smash's advice to heart, I built a 15-1-1-1-1-1 on tonights OCC game and I MADE IT!!

This is the FIRST time that the AI hasn't whacked me during the OCC game! The big difference, I think, is that I have quit using MPG for single player games and am using the original Civ II for OCC. Between a friendlier AI, gifts and being stuck out on an island far away from the blood-thirsty AI, I finally had a decent chance. And, no, I didn't play Diety. I just wanted to hopefully win at least ONCE!

No log. Nothing to brag about. Just wanted to share the joy of colonizing space!

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"And now for something completely different..."
- John Cleese

kcbob · August 7, 2000, 23:05

Be careful what you wish for...

Go back to MPG, play at raging hordes. It can be done! BUT, (there's that big BUT again), be prepared. I just tried my old ICS strategy in my latest game and got waxed. I'm afraid that "once on OCCer, always an OCCer".

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

Carolus Rex · August 8, 2000, 03:59

Congrats!!!

Edited: Can you believe I had to edit this message??? And yes, I only wrote the "Congrats!!!" part...

Carolus

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Oldman · August 8, 2000, 04:03

Well done MacUser!!! nice one!!

kcbob, so you've had trouble reverting to normal play after occ too? i got creamed last weekend by the french?!?!

kcbob · August 8, 2000, 07:28

First, let me say what I forgot to say in my first post... kongrats, no wait, cungrats, nope, that's not right, congratz, hold on, congratts... I give up, how do you misspell comgrats?

Seriously, congratulations MacUser. It is a great feeling, n'est-ce pas?

And yes, Oldman, it's tough to go back. Although, some of my problem is that I select "random" on most of the options when generating a world and sometimes get stuck on an island. (I'm not a big naval person)

Now that I think about it, your French comment just gave me an idea for a thread. Thanks.

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

Tom DeMille · August 8, 2000, 11:29

Well done MacUser

Good luck ever being able to play a proper ICS strategy again.

Carolus Rex · August 8, 2000, 14:36

LOL@kcbob!

Edited: Yes, had to edit this one too?!

Carolus

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Scouse Gits · August 8, 2000, 15:56

Well done MacUser! I only ever played one OCC - 9, I think? (The road along the South Pole) Landed in 1825 about 200 years after most others! I had no trouble reverting back to ICS - everyone to their own.

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Mao · August 8, 2000, 16:19

Congrats MacUser...now...if only I could win...

tonic · August 8, 2000, 20:10

Welcome to OCCers Anonymous.

MacUser · August 8, 2000, 22:51

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"And now for something completely different..."
- John Cleese

Mao · August 8, 2000, 23:50

quote:

Originally posted by tonic on 08-08-2000 08:10 PM
Welcome to OCCers Anonymous.

Wait...him or me?

I do OCCs...just haven't really been able to win with anything spectacular. Now and then I do beat the AI by like one year...but that's about it

Scouse Gits · August 9, 2000, 06:31

MacUser - is there another similar thread somewhere? I would swear that I have already replied (with many congratulations) to this somewhere, but it certainly ain't here!!!

Many congratulations - and kiss ICS goodbye

Good civin'

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Sloth · August 9, 2000, 07:19

Won my first OCC...at Deity. Won many in past...but at king level.
What really saved me: airbases!!!

kcbob · August 9, 2000, 08:17

Airbases?!?!

Tell me your tongue is firmly placed in your cheek, Sloth. Airbases?!?!

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

Oldman · August 9, 2000, 08:46

Di- d, Did, Did he say AirBases?!?!?!?!!?

Mao · August 9, 2000, 17:56

A cheat? I think it's kinda nice, you can have forward bases all over the world basically right?

SCG · August 9, 2000, 20:22

couple of points - according to paul's OCC page, it doesn't forbid airbases, only airbases on hills within the city radius.

Second point: you can add me to those claiming the title of this thread

My first try was on Sten Sture's 4 whales comp game. no log, but then I was just trying to get the game in in a few hrs (took me about 5) Actually, I'm rather impressed with myself for the 1929 landing considering all the things I did "wrong"

I started out with bad hut luck (1 archer, 25 gold, 1 tech total) and only got about 4-5 techs (no gold) from the AI. never even got an alliance (v1.07c). Question here would be how many techs does it take to get an AI up to worshipful - i kept getting peace treaties, but that I was worthless to make an alliance with. I wound up being a republic around 1880BC and kept getting my caravans killed. I got 2 trade routes out in the BC, but didn't get the 3rd route until I sent 3 caravans out at once to give the AI raiders multiple targets

(once they broke the peace, I kept getting gold or state-of-the-art tech demands, and just didn't want to give up that much for peace.

while i was getting my 2 discoveries per round most of the game, I didn't bother to check the list of needed discoveries, so in the early 1800's when I was trying to get space flight, i found out i needed to discover monarchy/feud/chiv etc first (tried to trade for techs, but the AI at this point was demanding things like automobile for the right to talk to them

)

Also I miscounted the number of shields i needed and wound up with 75 shields instead of 80 when building the ship, so that slowed me down as well. Other mismanagement included not watching which bar (L/T/S) was adjusted when I was fiddling with the science rate and having my temple sold or my city going into disorder

Also had the misfortune of having my NON settler killed off not long after industrialization. Other minor things were forgetting to sell things like the granary and the aquaduct until I was running out of gold trying to rush buy SS parts. All in all I'm happy though

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April Cantor: Sire, in order to expand further we must first gain favor of the King

SCG: darn, I've never really got the hang of that tribute thing, guess it will be a long time until i make prince

*goes off and starts gifting gold and techs*

kcbob · August 9, 2000, 22:33

Actually, I was wondering about the time spent on building airbases. But now I've just remembered (sheepish look) that the city doesn't build them, engineers do.

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

Mao · August 10, 2000, 00:45

What's wrong with airbases? He might have had a city near many hills, and the airbases gave him extra food. Or he might have set up a perimeter of airbases near his one city, so that he can scout ahead.

Tom DeMille · August 10, 2000, 00:59

I think their point is that the "official" apolyton OCC rules consider airbases a cheat, so they should not be used.

But hey, if you're just playing for fun, then who cares.