Nukes Poll and the crowning of a new prince

Poll:

In the average game, do you build manhatten project before the turn before your spaceship arrives?

Yes: 1
No: 0

Anyone who breaks the format will not have their vote counted.
And.. Prince Silverdragon's coronation ceremony!!!!!

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What? I'm at 301 and I'm not a prince?
Edit: There we go!

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[This message has been edited by SilverDragon (edited December 04, 2000).]

[SandMonkey]

Yes: 1
No: 1

never crossed my mind to.. i still wouldn't want to give the AI a chance to attack me.

[Ming]

Yes: 1
No: 2

I never build it against the AI... Now, if they are stupid enough to do it

[Mercantile]

yes 1
no 3

i build it as soon as possible, just in case i wish to plant a nuke with my freights, kind of like a gift with a blast Don't you know you should never accept gifts from strangers.

[Paul]

yes 1
no 4

I have no use for nukes; I usually go for an AC victory and even if I go for a conquest win howies will do the job just fine.

[DaveV]

Yes: 1
No: 5

I haven't seen a nuke unit since my Civ 1 days. And I'd like to keep it that way. To paraphrase Paul, howies and bombers are more than enough to take out the AI.

[RNF]

Yes: 2
No: 5

I'll build Manhattan Project right at the end, unless there's another civilization around that I have security concerns about, just to pick up the extra points for the wonder on my Civilization score.
[This message has been edited by RNF (edited December 05, 2000).]

[Hermann the Lombard]

Yes: 3
No: 5

My answer is like RNF's. If I'm preserving an AI city or two as a "reservation" and their tech is no threat, I'll build it for the Wonder and the points. Other than that, I have no use for it.

Yes, of COURSE I had to try it out in one game, and that was against a truly threatening enemy. Ya know, that siren was kinda chilling . . .

(So, how long until the format gets busted by bad timing?)

[granite00]

Yes: 4
No: 5

I build it one turn before AC landing which prevents the AI from using them against me.

yes you got my strategy exactly. unless the ai builds it, then I just conquer it. I always conquer all cities but 1.

yes: 5
no: 5

why would you not build it? it is free points.
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[Mercantile]

The outcome against the ai is moot each time, why not build it as early as possible makes the game more entertaining if i have to deal with a possible nuke threat as well

[SetuSinger]

yes:6
no:5

Yes, I'm building the manhattan project. Sometimes I really get angry with my enemies because they did something really bad to me (for example killing one of my settler units) and then I love it to punish them with a massive nuke-attack

[This message has been edited by Pol Pot (edited December 06, 2000).]

[DaveV]

quote: Originally posted by Dissident Aggressor on 12-05-2000 11:03 PM why would you not build it? it is free points.

Because I don't care at all about my score.
[This message has been edited by DaveV (edited December 06, 2000).]

[Blaupanzer]

Nukes bad!! Therefore, MP bad!!
SD, how did you know that you had 300 posts? Where is that tracked that we can see?

Click in the profile button over the top of your post. Yay... we're winning!

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[Like2frolick]

Nukes are fun. I Love Nukes, simply because of the general hell they can wreak.

I don't so much like it when the other side builds nukes to. Indeed, I vastly prefer for the other side to have something like, say, Musketeers.

Yeah, it's inefficient, but inefficiency can be fun.

[Hasdrubal]

Yes: 7
No: 5

[Ribannah]

quote: Originally posted by SilverDragon on 12-04-2000 08:32 PM Poll: In the average game, do you build manhatten project before the turn before your spaceship arrives?

Yes: 8
No: 5

Not for any reason, but there isn't much else to do and I don't want my world polluted which is likely to happen if I build it earlier.

quote: And.. Prince Silverdragon's coronation ceremony!!!!!

Congrats! Mine is not far away



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If you have no feet, don't walk on fire

well I don't go all out for score, but I like to go the extra step to make sure I get the highest title. which is magnificant if I remember correctly.

[Everyman]

Yes - 8
No - 6

[Lefty Scaevola]

yes 8
no 7

I has never yet let an AI civ survice to the tech level needed for nukes. I play with civ on restart mode and kill each color twince during a long game.

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[Smokey tha nuke man]

hi anyone miss da smokes? anyway

Yes:9
No:7

In case y'all haven't figured it out, da smokes loves nukes (i'd pimp'em if i could LOL) nuke good, pacifism and stable enviroment EVIL. ok?

[Maelhavok]

Yes-9
No--8

My games Almost never reach AC or Manhatten but I replied to poll because I wouldn't cause score isn't my thing. I like to role-play the conqerer.
Maelhavok


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[Exile]

In Civ2 I'll go ahead and speed-build the Manhattan Project ONLY if I already have SDIs in most of my cities. If I don't, no.

In (ancient) Civ1, many times I would find myself in a situation where an AI civ had already launched a spaceship. At that point, one must find and take the capital city of the spaceship-empire. Typically, a small, but potent task force composed of; 1 carrier w/bombers & 2 nukes, 4-5 cruisers as outriders, 3-4 battleships, and at least 1 (preferably 3 or 4) transports full of mobile troops. 1 nuke clears a coastal city. Move the transports into the coastal city you nuked. Nuke the capital, then move in w/mobile units. All you have to do is take it once. They may well take it back, but the spaceship is already down. Generally, the whole force is expendable. After it crashes the enemy spaceship, wreak havoc--plunder like there's no tommorow! DESTROY anything you can reach, take cities and sell off everything you can. Leave them open, let the enemy take them back, and then take them again, just to reduce the populations. While all this destruction is ongoing, build and launch your own spaceship.

This used to work well w/Civ1. It doesn't work so well in Civ2. Generally, ANY hostile naval movement WILL be smothered by innumerable cruise missles before it can reach any enemy shoreline. And SDI defenses can really put a crimp in this kind of plan.

From the Office of the Armchair General,
Exile

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[La Fayette]

Yes=9
No=9
But I suppose I should not vote, since I realize that I haven't seen even an alpine troop for months. "They" are so sticky...always come too close and want a fight.

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[Blaupanzer]

Yes=9
No=10

My opinion is above, but I didn't vote. This wonder is not worth the score. However, if the AI builds, I will take it from him. Invariably forces the rush building of SDIs, a city "improvement" without value except if the bad guys have nukes. Hate to waste the shields and gold for that.

[Bereta_Eder]

Yes=9
No=11

In CIV1 I built it ONLY if the spacerace has gotten out of hand (my hand).

In Civ 2 I built it once just to do it. That was the last I've seen of it except when the AI did built it itself onetime.

I never thought they'd actually use nukes because I had not used them against them.

I was mistaken.

AND unprepared.

[Rahvin]

now LOL at that!

with the AI you'll always have to be prepared for everything....

NO :12
YES:09

AI always builds it once another AI spaceship's on its way....or i try to get it...

and i prepare myself with SDI and nuke stores on subs and carriers to perform a counterstrike...they shouldn't have tried me....
[This message has been edited by Rahvin (edited December 29, 2000).]