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Old September 22, 2001, 13:09   #151
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Old September 22, 2001, 14:39   #152
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what is wrong with you people? byzantines arnt a civ!!!
o well ... this is america and free speech is ... wait a second ...
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NEANDERTHALS????? A CIVILIZATION?????? WHO WOULD BE THEIR UNIQUE UNIT??????? WHAT CITIES WOULD THEY HAVE???? WHAT CITY SYLE WOULD THEY HAVE?????? WHO WOULD THEIR LEADER BE???????
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Neanderthal Civ -
Leader: Ugg (Well known for inventing fire)
Capital: Cave Lugghuh
Other Cities: Cave 1, Cave2, etc.
UU: Fire Wielder (randomly sets terrain or self on fire)

Great Leaders:
Glump (although he was eaten by wolves, no one mated more females)
Mlugh (Need I say more?)
Glarg (Ugg's son, and ruler of 15 hunters)
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Old September 22, 2001, 17:18   #156
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expansion civs ranking
Hebrews 20
Mongols 20
Inca 20
Spanish 20
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Slavs 10
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Neanderthal Civ - Leader: Ugg (Well known for inventing fire) Capital: Cave Lugghuh Other Cities: Cave 1, Cave2, etc.
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Great Leaders: Glump (although he was eaten by wolves, no one mated more females) Mlugh (Need I say more?) Glarg (Ugg's son, and ruler of 15 hunters)

LOL!!!!!!!!!
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Old September 22, 2001, 19:00   #158
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what is wrong with you people? byzantines arnt a civ!!!
o well ... this is america and free speech is ... wait a second ...
If Byzantines aren't a civilization, then neither are Americans.
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Old September 23, 2001, 04:10   #159
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Actually, the Byzantines being a)the offspring of Rome (Roman Empire, they called themselves, the word "byzantine" is a 19th century invention, from the name of the Greek city "Byzantium" where Konstantinoupolis was founded) and b)a Greek empire (emperors, officials and most of the population after 700 AD were Greek)...

...it would not be one of my choices for Civ3 (since it's "place" has been taken by Rome and Greece) but it could be in a add-on pack. Why not?

Hail Belisarius!


About the Neanderthal line-up... one thing I have to say
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Neanderthal Civ -
Leader: Ugg (Well known for inventing fire)
Capital: Cave Lugghuh
Other Cities: Cave 1, Cave2, etc.
UU: Fire Wielder (randomly sets terrain or self on fire)

Great Leaders: Glump (although he was eaten by wolves, no one mated more females)
Mlugh (Need I say more?)
Glarg (Ugg's son, and ruler of 15 hunters)
IM STILL LAUGHING
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Old September 23, 2001, 09:46   #161
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Poles 20
Phoenicians/Carthaginians 20
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Ethiopians 20
Koreans 20
Byzantines 20



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*Steps in for a bow*

I was feeling really inspired last night.

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Old September 23, 2001, 10:01   #163
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NEANDERTHALS????? A CIVILIZATION?????? WHO WOULD BE THEIR UNIQUE UNIT??????? WHAT CITIES WOULD THEY HAVE???? WHAT CITY SYLE WOULD THEY HAVE?????? WHO WOULD THEIR LEADER BE???????
See
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...25#post=419125
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http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...56#post=419156
for the true reason why they are in the list

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And my votes:

Poles 20
Mongols 20
Arabs 20
Carthaginians 20
Celts 20
Ethiopians 20
Hungarian 20
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Actually, the Byzantines being a)the offspring of Rome (Roman Empire, they called themselves, the word "byzantine" is a 19th century invention, from the name of the Greek city "Byzantium" where Konstantinoupolis was founded) and b)a Greek empire (emperors, officials and most of the population after 700 AD were Greek)...

...it would not be one of my choices for Civ3 (since it's "place" has been taken by Rome and Greece) but it could be in a add-on pack. Why not?
Same thing with Americans; originally a British colony, but unlike the Byzantines which were a surviving faction, since Constantinople was the alternate capital of the Roman Empire and remained while Rome was sacked. Constantinople exists today as Istanbul as well.....
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COME BACK HERE !!!!!!

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I'm going to do a mini-survey.

What happened to Locutus?
1) Eaten by cannibals
2) Kidnapped by the crew of "Lost" and dropped in Myanmar
3) Exposed to nuclear waste and now fights crime
4) Asked to be the official sunscreen applier of the Swedish women's volleyball team
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d) but he turned them down and now sits in a corner rocking back and forth...
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e) they mistook him for me and is now sitting in a padded room yelling that his name is Locutus, not JDD
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Old September 24, 2001, 13:04   #170
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5) All of the above: I was asked to be the official sunscreen applier of the Swedish women's volleyball team, turned them down and, after I realized what I had done, sat in a corner rocking back and forth. While I was doing that I was kidnapped by the crew of "Lost" and dropped in Myanmar... on a nuclear waste dump. So after that I fought crime until I was captured and eaten by louche Italian cannibalistic gangsters

Anyway, in the meantime I did find the time to update somewhere. So: last update piom, 151 votes, 21928 points.

jdd2007 et al,
You know, if I'd remove all the civs from the list of which people have argued that they shouldn't be in Civ3 for whatever reason, the entire list would probably consist of only 3 civs (if not less)

Gramphos,
Well, are you happy now? Look what you did! The Neanderthals are already in the top 40 with 103 points. That's all your fault!

Brad,
For the record, you have 120 points left.

LoD,
You have 60 points left.

Ubik,
You have 100 points left.

axi,
IMHO if anyone, the only people who should merge civs together or whatever is Firaxis. We'll just present the list to them as is and let them decide what to do with it...

MacTBone,
You gave 6 points to 'The Empire'. Could you be just a little bit more specific about which of the hundreds of empires human history knew you are referring to?

Love the suggestions for Neanderthals, we'll definitely have to send those to Firaxis as well

Oerdin,
I gave the full 20 points to the Scots, this means you have 140 points left.

MishGolden,
You have 50 points left.
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Well, are you happy now? Look what you did! The Neanderthals are already in the top 40 with 103 points. That's all your fault!


You know, I did remove my vote for them or they would have had 111 points by now
We nead a :evillol: smilie.
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Wasn't it obvious??? They rule several galaxies, at least they did, until some Rebels killed the leader. I mean who'd have thought a guy named 'Skywalker' could beat up a guy named 'Darth Vader'?
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Looks great, Gramphos Definitely one that should be added to the list, and I know the perfect name:

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Wasn't it obvious??? They rule several galaxies, at least they did, until some Rebels killed the leader. I mean who'd have thought a guy named 'Skywalker' could beat up a guy named 'Darth Vader'?
Ah, ok. Going in that direction, are we? Well, I added them for you... May the force be with you
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For my other 140 points I'd like to give:
Celts 20
Irish 20
Welsh 20
Vikings 20
Inca 20

and what the heck
Neanderthals 20
Californians 20
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Alright, since the Numides are in the list as "Nubians" I shall change my voting to +20 Nubians

Also, my 100 points left go to:

+20 Ethiopian
+20 Inca
+20 Carthagenian/Phoenician
+20 Minoan
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you can give no more then 20 points to one civ
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