What's an odeo? Or odeo year?

[schweick]

[Smash]

3850bc is an oedo year.So is 825bc.And 60 AD.And 1820AD For deity anyway.

[Xin Yu]

Odeo found out that every 4 turns you get to change government (if you revolutioned too early you are wasting time on anarchy). So every 4 turns is an odeo year. 3850BC is turn 4, therefore the first odeo year.

[Smash]

ah Xin you're no fun

here it is
xxx0

[Scouse Gits]

as for your first question -- What's an Odeo? -- oedo is one of the posters in this forum and odeo is, IIRC, Latin for "I hate".
and if you haven't gathered, Smash is something of a joker and Xin one of our legends - he doesn't say much, but when he does it is worth listening!

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Scouse Git[1]

"Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven

[Winston]

Blasphemy! His name's oedo, not odeo. Otherwise, you're right on.

[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by winston on 03-20-2001 08:21 AM Blasphemy! His name's oedo, not odeo. Otherwise, you're right on.

BTW, does 'oedo' mean something (not necessarily in latin)?

[Ecthy]

*bathes in patriotic pride*
(C)2000, 2001 Lightening

oedo is a German

[Slow Thinker]

quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 03-20-2001 04:46 AM and if you haven't gathered, Smash is something of a joker and Xin one of our legends - he doesn't say much, but when he does it is worth listening

and Scouse Gits are the legend too. Nobody knows how many they are. SlowThinker is an internet hacker who likes to be always a "Settler". Unfortunately, he is not perfect and the system often crashes after his actions. Sorry.

[La Fayette]

...and Slow Thinker's years are centuries (at least ).
(have many of you encountered homeless hackers hijacking Apolyton before?)

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[oedo]

cool, while I´m away you created two threads about me
make sure to bump them often enough so they will soon have 100 replies

my handle has no particular meaning, I created it far before I joined the apolyton forums and used it in various chats. later I found out that there´s also a japanese comic called Cybercity Oedo 808. but actually I don´t know anything about it.

[East Street Trader]

Japan, Oedo, your fame has, rightly, spread far.

But while I happily spam to help get you up to the desired 100 posts I do have a moan.

WHEN will I finally stop forgetting that I've delayed a change of gov.t waiting for an Oedo year, only realising I'm still in despotism or some outmoded non-representational gov.t half a dozen Oedo cycles later?

I've tried holding the Oedo chart tightly in my non-mouse hand until the change has been made. I've tried solemnly intoning the number of turns to the desired Oedo year before the start of each turn. But all to no avail.

STILL I forget.

At the critical moment the bloody Mongols sneak attack, or a long awaited caravan arrives or my voices tell me that some misbegotten civ is about to build the Gardens. And I rush to click the needful clicks and to tap the needful keys thereby missing that tide in the affairs of men.

When realisation belatedly strikes, oh revered one, the words BLOODY BLOODY OEDO may be heard in ringing tones well down my street (spreading your fame yet further, you will be pleased to hear).

Now, short of investing in one of those books that promises to improve my memory instantly, does any kind soul have the panacea to cure this awful ill?

[Scouse Gits]

Oh, EST -- I am sooooooo happy - I thought I was the only sod stupid enough to do that!!!!

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Scouse Git[1]

"Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven

[Paul]

It's good to know that I'm not the only person forgetting to switch government in an oedo year.

[Winston]

Just make a deliberate decision to play without the oedo years. Works for me.

This is such a nice discovery, but I have yet to implement it in my game style. And in SP, it's hardly a miss. Still, it's nice to know the cycle.

[Smash]

Ain't that annoying.

oh ya gotta revolt.

@#$% it's 2200 bc.

[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by East Street Trader on 03-26-2001 11:08 AM Japan, Oedo, your fame has, rightly, spread far. But while I happily spam to help get you up to the desired 100 posts I do have a moan. WHEN will I finally stop forgetting that I've delayed a change of gov.t waiting for an Oedo year, only realising I'm still in despotism or some outmoded non-representational gov.t half a dozen Oedo cycles later? Now, short of investing in one of those books that promises to improve my memory instantly, does any kind soul have the panacea to cure this awful ill?

I suppose that those strong players who never forget anything have some kind of checklist available.
Personally I have a piece of paper close to my computer only when I'm testing something (preferably the incomparable accomplishments of vet spies ).
Otherwise I promiss myself to be careful at the end of EACH turn ... and I am no more than you are...and very ugly words might be heard in a quite non overlapping radius around my house.

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[Ming]

In SP mode, I really don't keep very good track of stuff, because it really isn't needed after playing 1,000's of games.

But in MP, after a few beers, I have also found myself screaming for missing the year. It got to the point that I was trying to work it out that I would get the science advance on the exact year... knowing I wouldn't forget. There is nothing worse in an MP game than missing the odeo year for Monarchy... ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[SlowThinker]

I hope there will be a "reminding machine" in Civ3. I posted a suggestion how to improve the system to FirAxis, you can see it at http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum28/H...133.html?23#23

[schweick]

and Scouse Gits are the legend too. Nobody knows how many they are.
__________________________________________________ ____________

I thought there were two of them, SG1 being female, and SG2 male.
And thanks, SG's for the welcome in the solar power thread. I didn't know I was a "lady civver" but it's nice to be a "lady" something.

[SlowThinker]

quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 03-28-2001 12:20 PM Has Ming been defrocked - thrown down from Olympus - struck from the regimental rolls ? Look four posts above - it is by a new Settler called Ming!!!

quote: Originally posted by Slow Thinker on 03-20-2001 11:29 AM SlowThinker is an internet hacker who likes to be always a "Settler". Unfortunately, he is not perfect and the system often crashes after his actions. Sorry.

Sorry, Ming, I missed the target...

You know, I reached a chieftain status just now...and...

Edited:

[This message has been edited by SlowThinker (edited March 28, 2001).]

[Scouse Gits]

SG[1] glad to say that Uncle Ming has fixed the GL.
(I was waiting for you to "sex" the SGs)
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SG(2)

[Ming]

My log on was wiped clean this morning while the site was having some problems... It also caused the problem with the GL...

Everything is back to normal now... whatever the heck normal is around here

[SlowThinker]

quote: Originally posted by Edward on 03-28-2001 12:32 PM IMHO patterns should be eliminated. (No oedo revolt years - anarchy periods should be randomly determined.

I would set some fixed number of years for a revolt.

quote: No separating techs into 3 groups for availability - the techs you can choose to research next should be randomly determined.

You know, there are "chess style players" and "cards style players" : I would allow to set it through initial settings.

quote: There should be no hut nor special patterns - they should be randomly distributed with an eye towards spreading them out somewhat evenly.)

Rich areas would improve the game from strategical point of view...

[Scouse Gits]

quote: Originally posted by Ming on 03-28-2001 04:07 PM Everything is back to normal now... whatever the heck normal is around here

Well you do a great job - I for one would not care to take the flak you receive - without giving it back in Spades.

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SG(2)

[SlowThinker]

There is an age faq somewhere on Apolyton: there is SG(3).

And I saw somewhere that it is a secret that one SG is a women (or I didn't understand well because of my weak english).
Are you sure it is SG(1)?



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[Scouse Gits]

Has Ming been defrocked - thrown down from Olympus - struck from the regimental rolls ?

Look four posts above - it is by a new Settler called Ming!!!!

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Scouse Git[1]

"Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven
[This message has been edited by Scouse Gits (edited March 28, 2001).]

[Edward]

quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker on 03-27-2001 02:59 PM I hope there will be a "reminding machine" in Civ3. I posted a suggestion how to improve the system to FirAxis, you can see it at http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum28/H...133.html?23#23

Great discussion on that link for CIV improvements.

IMHO patterns should be eliminated. (No oedo revolt years - anarchy periods should be randomly determined. No separating techs into 3 groups for availability - the techs you can choose to research next should be randomly determined. There should be no hut nor special patterns - they should be randomly distributed with an eye towards spreading them out somewhat evenly.)

[Scouse Gits]

quote: Originally posted by schweick on 03-18-2001 22:15 PM Hi, I play MGE at King level. I noticed (my hubby also) that when we add a solar plant to a city, pollution appears where there was none before. I thought the point of Solar Plant was productivity WITHOUT pollution. Is it a bug in the program that it adds the shields and then calculates the pollution without making an exception for the "solar" aspect?

Hi schweick - I deduce from the 'hubby' that you are female and as you clearly play civ a civver - hence 'lady civver'. My apologies if my deductions are incorrect.
As far as the 'mystery' of the SGs is concerned - there is none!

I, SG[1], am a boring old fart of an academic (male);
SG(2) is my good friend, we met over the bridge table, and is a (male) printer
and finally, SG{3}, is my brat (15 year olds are brats by definition) daughter

We have posted this before - but these things get lost in the sands of time - no I don't think it worthy of inclusion in the Great Library - which incidentally has become unstuck!!!


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Scouse Git[1]

"Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven

[solo]

Got to love the way East Side Trader expresses the angst in forgetting to use those oedo years. In OCC #24, I discovered Democracy in 900 AD and sure enough, cruised right on by that first oedo opportunity in 940 and had to wait until 1020 to switch governments! Again, after a lot of practice trying to remember!


I have adjusted my strategy to compensate for this by trying to plan the discovery of the next form of government to coincide with an oedo year, and this works better! Same turn revolts also save a turn of research.

The other thing I do is discipline myself to go through a mental checklist at the end of each and every turn:

1) Is this an oedo year?
2) Did I happy up that city that went into revolt this turn?
3) Will an important improvement I just rush-bought be sold off because I used up too much gold and left taxes at zero?
4) Will my favorite engineer be disbanded because his city workers were all left on ocean squares to boost the gold payoff when I delivered a caravan?
5) Did I leave the science rate at 0% 3 turns ago when I was checking how many beakers I needed for the next advance?
6) Will I ever unfortify that horseman who is supposed to be exploring Outer Mongolia?

This checklist works very well for me, EST, and so far, the only times when I forget to use it are when any of the answers to the questions above happen to be “yes”!


Finally, my final answer to the question posed for this topic:

Odeo years are the ones when all those diety players get together to watch the National Spelling Bee.