Apolyton's "Great Library" - Page 3

Scouse Gits · October 11, 2000, 11:17

Some "list of recent challenges" I'm thinking in particular of DaveV's 'AI Headstart Challenge' there is wisdom in those logs that should not be lost.

Come on Dan, Mark - give us the go ahead!

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"The Great Library must be built!"
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Father Beast · October 15, 2000, 01:22

here is an updated list. I haven't been back very far and there is a LOT of interesting stuff back there. more to come, I'm sure.

"DaveV's ICS Strategy"
"Simpson II's perfectionist strategy"
"Xin Yu's size 5 strategy"
"SilverDragon's list of ways the AI cheats"
"SilverDragon's Guide to conservative expansionism"
"Statue Of Oedo - Oedo's years to change government"
"Ming's big list of player cheats"
"StrategicKing's Caravan attack strategy"
"Matthew's beginner's guide to deity"
"Drago Sinio's easy win at deity"
"Distilled civ tips and notes thread"
"Trade discussion and numbers"
"Caesar's numbers for corruption and waste"
"Bird's note on wonder shield saving"
"Adam Smith's repeated commodity trade strategy"
"story of Ming's first occ win"
"Caesar The Great's Beaker numbers"
"High score discussion"
"oedo's idea for cooperative multiplayer early AC landing"
"two continent trading strategy"
"Wonder building strategies"
"KhanMan's nomads Challenge"
"factors for rioting citizens"
"list of various chalenges"
"Adam Smith's space oddysey challenge"
"discussion on exploring units"
"Matthew's OCC Conquest challenge"
"Tom DeMille's notes on how AI's affect science production"
"Capitol moving discussion"
"uncovering hidden specials"
"Ely McGreen's notes on chasing barbarian leaders"

good stuff not in the forums
"link to Paul's OCC guide"
"link to The Barbarian Paper"
"link to Scrolls of ancient wisdom"

Rest assured, I will still dig for more.
Everybody remember to post links to good stuff you find on this thread.

Father Beast · October 15, 2000, 01:38

SG, I have found some challenges listed in the depths, but I haven't kept up on recent cahllenges, can you or somebody compile them?

Scouse Gits · October 16, 2000, 05:51

William Keenan's "Advance Slot Properties"

Scouse Gits · October 25, 2000, 18:07

I gave just found the Apolyton Great Library unfortunately it is in the CtP II section!! Is this why we are getting no movement on this issue?? 'Fess up Mark, Dan??

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"The Great Library must be built!"

October 25, 2000, 21:27

Gameleague is also making a Great Library. Go to gameleague.megaultra.com to submit your own strategy or to submit a link to a forum post you think should be on there. Only well thought out, thorough strategies will be accepted.

Father Beast · October 26, 2000, 21:26

SG -
I thought that this had lost steam because the massive list of links I post periodically is basically subbing for a great library. basically, whenever someone finds a good link and posts to this thread, the GL is improved.

Heaven help me when these threads get archived and the links no longer work.

Shadowstrike · October 28, 2000, 18:08

Y'know, it wuld be better if the authors summerize the entire thread into one long text, then have somebody set up a contents page and put one "scroll of wisdom" into each page which is linked to the contents page...

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weird god · October 30, 2000, 22:23

whats the problem with building the GL? there´s room enough for dinosaur-trash (whatever this is??).....

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kcbob · November 7, 2000, 10:48

I can't remember who posted this,

, and I'm not sure if it's worthy for inclusion but I use it constantly.

That would be the suggestion of making sure your diplomats/spys are on the furthest square away from an AI capitol before bribing a city. The difference in bribe amounts from one side of a city to the other can run into the 100's of gold.

Anybody else remember seeing this tip?

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tonic · November 8, 2000, 09:15

Yes and it is also in the Scrolls of Wisdom site despite some reservations about the latter's total accuracy. There definitely is a difference even with one square but the actual saving would depend on the distance as well as the AI civ's coffers.

jcarkey · November 10, 2000, 18:54

I am currently making all of those links that FB found in to individual (Well, I also have one large one) documents. I POSSIBLY could finish it over the weekend.

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Scouse Gits · November 10, 2000, 20:47

Very well done jcarkey - a mamoth task that will benefit us all...

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"CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven

jcarkey · November 11, 2000, 21:59

Here is my about half finished version. Click here to download it!

It's fine now

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jcarkey · November 15, 2000, 19:06

Ok, I have put the articles that I have changed into their own documents. They're Right Here

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Scouse Gits · November 16, 2000, 10:29

Nice job jcarkey - although on my browser the colour scheme is a bit off ...

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"CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven

November 16, 2000, 11:53

Thanks for putting this together, jcarkey.

I've downloaded the compiled document and I'm in the process of reading through it now. It looks good so far and makes for an interesting read for sure. I always had a weakness for longish papers on this game - gives you something useful to do at work while leaving Apolyton alone for a while.

jcarkey · November 16, 2000, 19:08

Thank you! I am trying to do as much as I can. I am constantly being flooded by school work so I do as much as I can whenever I can.

SG: I'm sorry about that. I was just provided some disk space and am trying to save as much as I can, so I'm not going to do that good of graphics. BTW I use the newest version of Netscape and it looks fine to me.

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Xin Yu · November 17, 2000, 15:26

Excellent job! This is a good arrangement since further notes can be attached to the bottom of each article.

My size 5 strategy link doesn't work, please fix it. Thanks.

Also the corruption and waste article did not mention that using roads to link the city to the capital can reduce corruption to an extent.

jcarkey · November 17, 2000, 18:49

Sorry Xin Yu, I thank you for pointing that out. I thought all of the links worked though. I think all I'll have to do is rename the word file name.

I did not write the articles, I just arranged them. If you could write a little bit about roads reducing corruption that would be very helpful.

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Scouse Gits · November 30, 2000, 06:27

SG2's "A is for Alphabet" thread on starting Technologies

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"CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven

jcarkey · December 13, 2000, 09:29

Ok, I finally got around to updating. It's right here

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Beör · December 14, 2000, 04:55

jcarkey

Nice job.

The link: Easy win at deity is blind

Beör · December 14, 2000, 04:56

As is: Size-5 Strategy

jcarkey · December 16, 2000, 10:16

I thought I had both of those fixed. I'll fix it and try to add more articles.

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SlowThinker · December 26, 2000, 02:29

Sorry, i am newbie here. I have read this thread briefly and i didnt understand if GL arose yet. Means GL a list of links in this thread?

jcarkey · December 26, 2000, 22:58

Right now, it's a list of documents that are on my website. This is (hopefully) temporary. We plan to then move all of the documents into a seperate, locked, forum. And BTW I have gotten a new web address. I wil notify you when I have finished the overhaul.

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SlowThinker · December 27, 2000, 19:44

I noticed the idea of Apolyton's "Great Library" here. In my opinion the list of documents presented here is not ideal. Wisdom is very dispersed and often doubled there. I think that wisdom for each scope of Civilization's rules (for example science, happiness, pollution, bribing...) should be summarized on one site.
I tried to start this idea with Diplomats and Spies. Look at http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum1/HTML/001678.html?0#0

December 28, 2000, 10:51

I started a goody hut thread. I could use some information some of you know, so please reply.

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SlowThinker · December 31, 2000, 12:44

I posted topic "Too much of information" to Apolyton forum http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum20/HTML/001243.html
I consider just item 2) there is important for us.
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