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Smart Weapons! Cool! Carpet Bombing?
So... if Firaxis thought to put smart weapons in... then is it logical to assume that they may have thrown carpet bombing in? ... a la B-17 flying fortress?
...a bomber unit that can lower the population points of cities and randomly destroy city improvements?
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September 23, 2001, 07:20
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As in bombing Civ2 style?
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September 23, 2001, 08:52
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kinda what i thought 
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September 23, 2001, 09:21
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well carpet bombing would, IIRC not attack military units, just buildings and civilians...
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September 23, 2001, 09:27
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smart weapons ??  
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September 23, 2001, 10:08
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Originally posted by jdd2007
well carpet bombing would, IIRC not attack military units, just buildings and civilians...
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maybe we could have 757s that people could steal and ram into buildings...
whores...
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September 23, 2001, 15:20
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Prince
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Easy everyone. Remember this is just a game, ok.
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September 23, 2001, 16:00
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Bombers should only attack cities's population and/or improvements, NOT military units, thats what CAS w/ fighters is for.
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September 23, 2001, 16:26
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Prince
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Exactly.... that's what has gotten me interested in this bombing thing. I wonder if carpet bombing will be in.
Oh Danny boy? ... where are you? 
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September 23, 2001, 17:07
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i concur 
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September 24, 2001, 01:51
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Killing civilians is an ugly fact of life, but it is a fact of life.
I wonder how extensive carpet bombing campaign would affect your cultue rating...
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September 24, 2001, 03:39
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howzabout -50
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September 24, 2001, 04:50
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it would be cool, but i doubt its in
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September 24, 2001, 07:03
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Well, does that mean that when you attack a city with a bomber that it will only kill units?
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September 24, 2001, 07:07
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That's the way it worked in Civ2, Mr. Manitoban (I hope that I'm right on the flag; it's been a while since 8th grade geography). Plus, every successful attack lowered the pop. points of the target city by 1.
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September 24, 2001, 10:29
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Nope... that's the Ontario flag. Manitoba has a buffalo on theirs.
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September 24, 2001, 11:48
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Carpet bombing enemy cities to destroy improvements or even wonders and a few civilians would make it much more realistic compared to killing units only. I'd use more bombers if they could destroy production capability of an enemy as in WWII.
Having defending fighters would become essential.
And most of all an airwar would finally get more attention and realism in this game where a phalanx used to be able to hit a plane with "spears" !?!?!?! 
I hope firaxis see's it this way ...
Being a professional pilot myself I'm frustrated that so little is known about how aircraft are used in civ3 , I hope they answer my askcivteam question about it.
Does anyone know how they move ( movementpoints/fuel?)
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September 24, 2001, 14:49
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Does anyone know how they move ( movementpoints/fuel?)
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i dont know, but it will be a new system
IIRC, "they will no longer be like superfast ground units"
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September 24, 2001, 16:31
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Apparently area bombing doesn't really affect your culture rating, since we did it in WWII. History is culture, and the winners write it. It may affect the culture ratings of the bombees though, since lots of stuff is destroyed.
The only way that strategic bombing would be an option is if they could figure out a way to have a real "front". Too often you can just run the bombers over the terrain, bomb a city and then move in armor or howitzers. If there was an effective front, you would have to hurt their production by bombing, and of course a percentage chance of destroying improvements. Also, if there was a front, you wouldn't be able to get to cities far from it, and you could continue bombing the city to destroy improvements after the units were destroyed.
Of course then fighters are much more important, and they'd have to get together some kind of escort system together, or just beef up the bombers defense and say it's implied.
Then again, this could be too much thinking over one point.
Gary
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