September 29, 2001, 18:39
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wait a second...
if you look at this thread, and look at the leader screen, it shows cleopatra as black... i thought we got firaxis to change that. WHAT HAPPENED!?
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September 29, 2001, 18:48
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These boxes might have been printed a month ago. Firaxis only changed Cleo's look recently.
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September 29, 2001, 19:56
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true... but they definetly started handing them out after they changed the graphic... it worries me...
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September 29, 2001, 19:58
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They're not going to re-print 20 000 boxes at immense cost for a minor change in graphics.
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September 29, 2001, 20:23
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yea. capitialism. remember. money. cha ching.
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September 29, 2001, 23:05
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should be "CHA-CHING$$!!"
I wonder what ever happened to that guy anyhow? Didn't he die or something? Wasn't it a Burger King commercial?
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September 30, 2001, 00:05
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
They're not going to re-print 20 000 boxes at immense cost for a minor change in graphics.
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yeah, i know that (duh) but how far in advance do u think they make those things?
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September 30, 2001, 00:12
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Printing and shipping tens of thousands of boxes is not done on a week's notice.
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September 30, 2001, 00:13
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The boxes are probably not even printed in the US, and might have been in transit for the better part of a month.
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September 30, 2001, 00:36
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yea, we all know that american territories / commonwealths arent subject to sweatshop regulations.
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September 30, 2001, 04:30
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Why would anyone particulary care about what her skine tone was(dark/light)? I guess I'm still hoping that we as humans would grow to see that we are all the same no matter our skin color. If people have this to complain about, we have a ways to go yet 
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September 30, 2001, 04:34
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Bigfree, it's a matter of historical accuracy. Cleo was Greek, not native Egyptian, and even native Egyptians have a lighter skin tone than the normal image of "black" people.
It's like if Abe Lincoln was represented as Asian...
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September 30, 2001, 04:40
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I'm all for accuracy; but who's to say she wasn't a 'dark skinned' Greek? I'm just saying that skin tone shouldn't be a major concern, enough for Firaxis to have to make a change in it's art. If she was of Greek decent, then that is that; but to say "I think she was light/dark" is another. I really love that there are so many different cultures in the World. I just wish that there weren't as many negative biases to go along with them.
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September 30, 2001, 05:23
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Turkish guirs ar e hotties. I'd fill them out like an application!!
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September 30, 2001, 07:55
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It's Political Correctness versus Historical Accuracy.
She was indeed Greek, and people of that region were paler then, than they are today. Turkey was a "white" country. It wasn't until the fall of Constantinopel, 1500 years later that Turkey became "muslim-asian-dark" whatever you want to call it.
Cleopatra as black seems as if to compensate as Motzezuma is the only other black person in the game. Apart of Mao and Gandhi, everyone is pretty white (European) in appearance, and colouring her may be a balancing act.
I'm happy they changed their minds. HA beats PC anytime.
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