October 2, 2001, 11:16
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NS...LOL...you're right! I've got the same version at the house! Of course, I've long been a fan of outdated software (which is why I LOVE the underdogs site! 
MarkG: Will re-send the larger graphic to you this evening when I get home, using the alternate e-mail addy !
As to Amazon....sadly, no plans in the works to post the ol' gal there  The exposure would be tremendous, but because of the commissions they charge (55%!), to even make it break even, I'd have to charge a criminal amount for it....
But...that's okay too...the real reason I wanted to get her in the shape she's in now....the people I did it for are all right here at Apolyton anyway... 
-=Vel=-
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October 2, 2001, 11:24
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Prince
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You and me both, Vel. 
Why don't you arrange to sell it through Apolyton too? Of course, if your contract with BookSurge prevents that, you're stuck. Just an idea to throw out... 
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October 2, 2001, 14:15
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Congratulations, Brother Vel - 'tis a fine piece of work indeed.
(for the record, I have removed v 3.0 from the SC site, and put a link to the publisher's order page instead)
G.
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October 2, 2001, 14:20
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Ok, I tried and I can see the document now.
One problem, though, it seemed from it, and from your talk earlier, that you had embedded a whole lot of links and bookmarks, but I can't see a single one in the doc! 
Could it be that the links was made with a third party plugin, which I have now disabled? 
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October 2, 2001, 16:05
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Bless you, Brother Googlie! And thank you....our discussions and debates from long ago (with all of those other 'Greybeards' )were the genesis for the work as she stands now....added to over time as more and more voices came and went here....this work is truly a testiment to all the fine talent on the board!
Bond...yeah... That was the one thing I was disappointed about, and the primary reason for all the delays. They tried valiantly to get the internal links to work properly, but could not, and in the end, we had to remove them....:: pout::
-=Vel=-
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October 2, 2001, 17:02
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Vel - your work never ceases to amaze me, and this one's no different. Well worth the wait
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October 2, 2001, 17:45
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Thank ya Mark! And here's hoping that when I'm ready to crank out a Civ3 guide they don't take quite so long!
-=Vel=-
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October 2, 2001, 19:07
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:shrugs: Oh, it's ok then. A nit hard to read a pdf that long without any sort of indexing, but I'm reading it right now and have been for the past few hours, so it can't be that bad.
It's the first time in quite a while I read the guide now, so I can't really say what is new except for those last few pages.
It is very, very good stuff, even if I disagrees with you on some points. 
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October 3, 2001, 09:22
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Hi Vel!
I just bought my very own copy. great stuff and much superior to v3 of the Guide! this sure makes me wish there would be an upgrade to SMAX.
BTW, have you seen the ads for Empire Earth? it's like next-gen Age of Kings. check it out at: www.empireearth.com
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October 3, 2001, 17:23
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i just ordered it!
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October 4, 2001, 10:09
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It looks wonderful Vel! I've purchased the electronic version of it but I would love to have the printed version but I'm not prepared to pay the high postage cost. Is there a *cough* way to buy it direct from the *cough* author?
Thanks for all your hard work and for the clarity of your writing. I can't wait till you get your teeth into Civ 3!
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October 4, 2001, 20:33
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Vel,
I just ordered the paperback version, which will be delivered to my home for just over $20 (US) - a massive bargain considering the long hours of toil you have put into it! Keep up the good work, and I look forward to any other ventures you may have.
Hydro
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October 5, 2001, 07:26
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Vel=kewl
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October 5, 2001, 11:57
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Morning guys, and thank you all again!
I still can't quite get used to seeing the bound edge of the SMAX guide sitting on my bookshelf....that's pretty heady stuff!
And I appreciate more than I can express that so many people have taken an interest in purchasing the guide!
You guys rock!
-=Vel=-
PS: SITS - An excellent idea, but I don't actually have any copies--save for the galley proof--that I could sell.... Sorry 'bout that guy.
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October 6, 2001, 10:29
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Just ordered my copy.
Thanks for all the hard work Vel and all the Apolytonites who helped him with all the strategies.
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October 6, 2001, 11:01
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Oh, well. I thought you could get a few more percentage points rather than the US mail service!
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'No room for human error, and really it's thousands of times safer than letting drivers do it. But the one in ten million has come up once again, and the the cause of the accident is sits, something in the silicon.' - The Gold Coast - Kim Stanley Robinson
'Feels just like I can take a thousand miles in my stride hey yey' - Oh, Baby - Rhianna
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October 11, 2001, 08:17
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Congratulations, Vel!
Now I know what I want for Christmas. I just hope the book won't be sold out by then.
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October 12, 2001, 12:09
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I ordered the guide today and the shipping was $5.80 for a total of $20.80. I dont know if this helps, the last time I checked the shipping was a lot higher so I waited to see if it was possibly an error. Vel, thanks for all the hard work and time spent putting this guide together.
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October 17, 2001, 12:14
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Just ordered the paperback today - easier to look up while playing, and also possible to read about smax somewhere away from the computer.
Thanks for all your work, Vel.
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October 17, 2001, 19:16
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King
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Vel,
My paperback version just arrived, and as I was reading I was once again struck by the thoroughness and the friendly first person style. Once again, well done, and thanks for taking the time and effort to publish what I hope was a labor of love!
Hydro
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October 23, 2001, 13:15
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I just gave my Guide to a friend and ordered another. I imagine they'd make great holiday gifts!
BTW - BookSurge's search engine sucks. I finally was able to order the book only by going to their author summary.
Hydro
Last edited by Hydro; October 23, 2001 at 13:22.
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October 29, 2001, 13:52
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'morning guys! Just back from a vacation in sunny Florida, and wanted to stop back in here!
Thank you again for the kind words.....it's been a fantastic adventure putting the guide together, and the success it has seen has given me high hopes for the publication of my first adventure novel (eight more corrections and it'll be ready to roll out the door! WhoooHoooo!).
You guys are the best!
-=Vel=-
PS: Hydro...I have to agree with you good sir....That Booksurge engine is the pits! UGH.....young company tho....hopefully they'll learn quickly...
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October 29, 2001, 15:07
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Oh, how's the sale going. Vel? Sold many copies?
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October 29, 2001, 21:54
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So far, good sir, the totals stand at:
23 bound versions and
35 e-books
-=Vel=-
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October 29, 2001, 23:17
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So you actually got around to writing it out as a book? Wow.
I'm suprised to find you're still here nearly two years latter..... I thought I'd give SMACX another try for a while, probably a single city scenario because I don't have the time for more.....
Actually speaking of that the links to the single city campaign "rules" don't seem to work... I was wondering if you could remember what they had been.
Seems odd that all of those "records" from 1999 still stand.
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Hey, you didn't include the list of which of techs are in which of the three "tech groups" for purposes "random" research did you? Single city strategy for Huge map seems to depend on getting to Industrial Automation as fast as possible.
(My old ID was "David Byron" btw)
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October 30, 2001, 10:26
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Brother Vel, congrats congrats congrats. The gaming community at-large is now blessed with a massively raised standard for strategy guides. Way to go my friend!
Now, as a practical matter, ARE YOU BLOODY INSANE?!?
RL work is piling up, Civ III just came out and NOW you release your guide?! Are you trying to force me to never see my family, or the sun for that matter! Just kidding!
I have ordered the paperback copy and the moment it arrives (even before I read it!) I will be sending it along to you for your autograph, assuming your offer from a while back still stands. And don't worry, I will not include any anth*rx in the package...
-Kinjy
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October 30, 2001, 11:03
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LOL....morning all, and Brother Kinjy! Good to see you still out and about on the board man!
Yep, the offer still stands! I'll shoot it back at you soon as it arrives here (again, and as you say without the Anthrax)
About the lateness of the guide's publication....::sigh:: I know, I know....it would have been much better to have released it back in the SMAX heyday....funny thing was though, that it really didn't even occur to me till folks here started talking up the idea. I'm learning fast tho....soon as I get my copy of civiii, I'll be playing....and writing....
David! Welcome back to the boards, bud! Yep....still kicking....still writing, and the old smax guide got one final facelift and expansion.....I'm very happy with the final look of her (and btw, I couldn't resist using the "all your base are belong to us" quote on the cover.....but I DID keep it small! LOL
Hmmm....not sure where the OCC stuff is, but if things remain slow, I will see if I can find 'em and bump them to the top!
-=Vel=-
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October 30, 2001, 16:28
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I just received my copy of the Guide today. It's great to have it in paperback; there's something satisfying about holding the book in one's hand and reading the words on paper. My discovery of version 3.0 on Apolyton was what got me back into SMAC - I just had to try some of your strategies. Since then I have become addicted to PBEM; your guide is especially useful against those wily humans. Volume 4.0 looks great, and it will hold a special place on my computer desk's bookshelf.
Thanks for all of the hard work you put into the guide. Good luck with Civ3. I look forward to seeing your pointers on how to build and empire on this planet.
Regards, Zaphod
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November 9, 2001, 20:18
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Settler
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Get out of town!
Gees, I've been away for a few years. My return is due to purchasing the special edition of CivIII and haven't played it yet. I remembered this place as a great place for SMAC game theory. I thought i would read some posts and see what people say about CivIII since i uncharacteristically bought a game without first reading anything about it.
The first message i see when coming back is Vel gets published! I doubt anyone remembers my "2215 defensive" paper that came out the same time as Vels first strategy guide for SMAC, so i will spare the details as my time has past. I hope something i mentioned there made it into your book. Congratulations.
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November 17, 2001, 23:23
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Settler
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Newbie
Just purchased Vel's strategy guide because of all the hype I have read. I am a total newbie (got SMAX last night) and have dying for more info on game (no manual)
Is guide really good???
PS- I like SMAX better than Civ3 so far
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