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Old March 8, 2002, 15:54   #331
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OK, but if I remember correctly, I have about 12 ec in the treasury. I might need you to give me a loan so I can kill myself.
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Old March 8, 2002, 16:13   #332
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I intentionally left the base that has about 15 or so minerals accumylated toward a tactical. easy switch to a scout and then kaboom on the next turn
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Old March 8, 2002, 22:56   #334
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Thank you for the game darius. Your next pass should be your last one (if the self-eradication works properly). I guess the peacekeepers are passing to me now (sharris4141@yahoo.com so you don't have to look it up)
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Old March 9, 2002, 02:08   #336
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i thought i posted it already, but 90 to drones.
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Old March 9, 2002, 10:54   #337
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My suicide scout has done his duty. Turn to Flubber.

Thanks for the game, guys.
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Old March 9, 2002, 14:31   #338
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Old March 9, 2002, 19:38   #339
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Old March 9, 2002, 20:50   #340
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Old March 10, 2002, 17:33   #341
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'92 to that xenophilic (?) peacekeeper.
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Old March 12, 2002, 17:45   #344
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reload -- froze up -- sorry
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Old March 13, 2002, 00:22   #346
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Old March 14, 2002, 03:24   #347
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Old March 14, 2002, 20:29   #350
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To those of you who are not on my email list , I will be away for the period from March 20-30 having a delayed honeymoon (hitched back in Oct.)

While I have obtained replacements for a couple of games, for the ones where I am a bit more involved, including this one, I am hoping everyone can live with the short hiatus. I figure these things have to be an accepted part of games that span months
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Deep in a command bunker near the Temple of the Holies

" Sir we have reports of Gaian troop movements in the jungle and we have their airforce approaching our homeland"

" Could it be an exercise ?"

" No sir, none are scheduled and no exercise would be allowed near our population centres"

" damn!! wake the joint chiefs and signal DEFCON ONE and implement plans Noah's Ark and Sword of Planet . . . and get me Jungle Oupost Bravo on the radio"

The radio crackled " Jungle outpost Bravo here"

" Report "

" Sir, gaian planes are bombing our positions. We are out gunned here and our flybooms are still to fa- hsssssssssssss"

All further attempts to reach Jungle Outpost Bravo, failed.



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The messenger was suprised to find the Prophet awake and in prayer when he entered the prophets private quarters.

" Your eminence, I have news"

" I know my child. The psionic net reverbrated with the cries of pain of our native friends. I could feel their anguish . . . "

" Could ??" the messenger whispered

" Yes my child. About 15 minutes ago, all psionic activity in the area ended. They are GONE. These gaians !!!. . . I gave them my holy oath that i would remain peaceful with them. I saw hope for them as their beliefs are consistent with our basic principles. This is sad . . . "

The prophet broke out of his stupor . . ." But there is much to be done . . . I need the Council of Cardinals, the defense Minister and the Joint Chiefs. Fire the head of the secret police and the intelligence services and appoint Brother Antonio . . . .
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"Brother smhfan86, we have confirmed reports of Cultist mobilization against our friend the Morganites."

"When?"

"Right now, sir."

"Get me Darius, Lady J and Morgan on the link, right now."

"Sir?"

"Yes, I know..." Drops his head and turns on planetary address radio. "Let it be known that from this day forward, the Peacekeepers refuse to stand by as another of our allies falls at the hands of the Cult."

Dramatic pause.

"Let it be known that we will no longer tolerate the support of hostile Hive forces by the Cult and that we will defend ourselves to the very last man!"

"Let it be known, that the Peacekeepers, have every intent of living up to our great heritage and plan on keeping the peace, enforcing if necessary, in order to keep Planet a place where our children, and children's children will be able to play and prosper, without fear of war!"

Planetary applause.

"I ask each man, woman, child and all children of Planet, to work together, and help our Peacekeeping forces to win this war against fanaticism, and help keep our ideals of Democracy in tact for ages to come."

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APP-

In a secret address to the Gaian High Council, Lady J is reported to have called for the complete annihilation of the so-called Cult of Planet. "It's high time that war-mongering SOB got his! I implore you never to forget the thousands of Free Drone citizens who perished at the hands of Cha Flubber's death squads! We have a long, dark road ahead and if we fail, who shall stand?"

Martial law has been declared throughout Gaian territory. Widespread nerve-stapling at several Gaian bases has been reported. The APP (Associated Planetary Press) has had it's offices in Gaia's Landing closed indefinitely by military police.

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Sorry for the reload - intercepter bug. Disabled the wheelmouse software.
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can u plz resend that J? I didn't get it.
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Old March 16, 2002, 18:17   #357
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never mind, I got it.
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I think there's something really wrong with this game. I opened this turn to find three of my west coast bases in the possession of Chairman Yang, yet only one Hive ground combat unit was to be found - an infantry unit which couldn't have possibly taken all three bases in one turn. If Flubber seized these bases and gave them to Yang, he should have ground combat units somewhere nearby, but he doesn't. I know with absolute certainty that neither Yang nor Flubber was in a position to mind control all three bases last turn. Also, when I moved a unit adjacent to one of Yang's new empty bases, I got the "You shall pay for each and every one of your atrocities" and "You've massacred thousands of my people" messages - which I have never received as a result of nerve stapling.

Anyway, something is not right here. I'd be interested in giving Flubber my password so he could look at the turn and see if he recognizes it or could offer any legit explanation. I'm pretty much ready to quit this one as is. I had sensor coverage and air recon for the squares in question - I know there's no way these three bases were captured legitimately. I'm going to load the turn and check it out again, but it doesn't look good.

Edit: Flubber, it looks like I'm done here, unless you can provide a good explanation for what happened. I'm not accusing you of anything. I believe the game is buggy. If you disagree, I would like to see your last turn from the beginning, as proof. smhfan could send it to me and you could mail me your password. I have no objection to you having my password.

After further review, I've decided to play the turn as is. It is possible that with probe teams the three bases in question could've been captured by Flubber and turned over to Yang. I'm not satisfied with that explanation, but it's the best I could come up with on my own. And it doesn't explain why Yang thinks I commited atrocities against him.

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I have no idea as to the atrocities thing. perhaps someone framed you for something. or maybe yang does not like nerve stapling for some reason

As for taking the bases, it was all legit. three ways it can happen (probably more but I know of these)


1. In my experience, sometimes when you gift a base, the unit inside or next to the base joins the new faction, sometimes it kicks the unit home and sometimes it just sits there. I have never been able to predict this behavior (perhaps there is a pattern I am not aware of?) and just live with the result when gifting bases. I do not know if this is a feature or a bug but I have never known it to work differently.

Here, gifting the bases to yang means that to get them back you have to keep at vendetta with yang. I knew i could not hold them and wanted to reduce the number of probe targets you would have (against me).

2. I have been known to self destruct units near or in a base when it pretty certain they are dead or would join the other side anyway as the base is vulnerable to probe control. For example, why would I leave a damaged and unarmoured rover in your lands? I will never get a chance to heal him up, thats for sure.

3. probe teams as you point out.


So no special bug as far as I can tell, just the way the game has always worked in all my games.

I will say that asking to view the turn from my side is offensive, impractical and would totally ruin the game. You could not help but see many things that infiltration information just does not provide you. Although you state you are not accusing me of anything, it surely does feel like it.

If you need verification, my preferred route would be to have the CMN ( Tau Ceti IIRC) review my turn. That way, the game is not spoiled when everything comes back as legitimate.
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