pondering July 4th explained

[SCG]

well, after running in a 4th of July 5k race and then watching the fireworks that night, I started to wonder how the USA would have come about in a Civ II game So, how does this sound?

level unimportant but we need the raging hoards settings, and either fewer than 7 civs, or no restarting eliminated civs with someone being eliminated. We cut to about the time when we are down to 2 years a turn. The British colonies in America are in disorder (not enough luxuries? not enough roads around the cities? too few British garrisons?). The French, seeing a chance to strike a blow to their longtime rivals across the channel decide to send a few diplomats across the ocean and start inciting revolts. This works reasonably well, until a peasant uprising near Paris catches the French off guard (should have founded 1 or 2 more cities near the capital to deal with that spawning point ) When Paris falls, a schism in the French Empire occurs and all the recently revolted colonies split off to form the Americans (US government was essentially overthrown and the constitution instated in 1789, replacing the ariticles of confederation). The Americans then are off and running, buying off much of the rest of the French colonies in the New World (Louisiana Purchase) and our civilized expansionist leaders took it from there.

comments?

[Deathwalker]

Personal, I think that something simular to American indenpendance would help Civ, first off all you need to pay attension to your cities, you can not ignore tham and they stay with you. You must keep an eye on each of them, and would give the possability to increase the number of civs. Though note the idea of lossing a capital and the civ splits while interesting was toally unreal, have idividual cites or groups of cities rebel and break of is beter.

[tonic]

quote: Originally posted by SCG on 07-05-2000 07:14 AM The British colonies in America are in disorder (not enough luxuries? not enough roads around the cities? too few British garrisons?).

Too high a tax level more like (basically the same thing given the somewhat reciprocal nature of T and L). On the other hand the Boston Tea Party could be the result of addiction to harder stuff?

quote: The Americans then are off and running, buying off much of the rest of the French colonies in the New World (Louisiana Purchase) and our civilized expansionist leaders took it from there.

Which may make French the major language in the world today and with the successful defence of the northern provinces spawning from Quebec against the demoralised British, we'd have a true US of A instead of just the US of mid-A.

The random generator seems to be a major factor in war as in civ. The course of history is one of many possibilities if only some decisions had been made purely militarily (I'm currently besotted by a British TV docu-series on "Great Military Blunders" which highlighted the disasters of battles resulting from the commander's ego, politics, over-confidence, over-dependence on technology...).

Do I sense a new scenario in the making?