Utopia

[Eli]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
What server are you guys on anyway? That's the one I'd like to join

WoU

[War4ever]

its a board of savages over there in the forums..... i think i am scared BTW anyone wanting free gold...Ominvores 48:48 is an easy target with around 2mill gold.... i took some off him myself

[Zopperoni]

Right, I've stepped off the "All-in-one"-idea, too hard to do at this stage.

I've decided to Paradise myself to 2000 acres

Current Strat
35% Homes
10% Mills
20% Watchtowers
20% Guilds
15% Towers

Planned Strat
50% Homes
10% Watchtowers
25% Guilds
15% Towers

I might reduce the Guilds- and Towers-percentage in a later stage and replace them with Homes and/or Schools.

[Eli]

Damn ****ing server. Ruins all the fun.

[War4ever]

i have hit the 600acrepoint.......but i guess i am landfat...not quite sure..

2000att spec
4200def spec
2200 elites
1500 horses

my buildings are all within your ranges..almost on a tee....i switched barracks for hospitals though....

i am thinking i should have gone with more armouries than the strat suggested......

i only have 200 thieves and about 250 wizzies.......

my thieves die at an astonishing rate sometimes......

our kd is still a ghetto but we have a guy who defected who is larger than i now......which is good.....

we are going to war today with a dragon and against the kd (48 48) whom we have been at war with for almost 3/4 of a year.....

we are now about 100k networth bigger, since that new guy defected to us...so in reality without him we would be 3% larger only....so should be some good battles...

my science pump is down as well..... pretty close to what you suggested....other than def ...what should i be doing ...

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by War4ever
i have hit the 600acrepoint.......but i guess i am landfat...not quite sure..

The term "landfat" is related to your Networth/Acre-ratio, usually 130-160 gc per acre is good enough to not make you look landfat, and the Science pump should make you look less landfat as well.

2000att spec
4200def spec
2200 elites
1500 horses

Not bad, this gives you ~46 dpa, if you cast Minor Protection, it will be ~50 dpa.
I suggest you convert the att specs back to soldiers (through the Release Forces-link) and train 1200 def specs and 800 Elf Lords out of them.

i am thinking i should have gone with more armouries than the strat suggested......

That was a relative consideration, Elf elites only cost 1,200 gc, which is already 20% cheaper than the elites of other races (except Halflings), so with fewer Armories you get pretty much the same cost saving. Besides, when training def specs, Banks are more effective, also because Elf specs are 20% cheaper.

i only have 200 thieves and about 250 wizzies.......

Not bad, just primarily pump into your military, what you have left you can convert to Thieves.

my thieves die at an astonishing rate sometimes......

What do you mean? Dying during ops or dying when not used?

our kd is still a ghetto but we have a guy who defected who is larger than i now......which is good.....

we are going to war today with a dragon and against the kd (48 48) whom we have been at war with for almost 3/4 of a year.....

we are now about 100k networth bigger, since that new guy defected to us...so in reality without him we would be 3% larger only....so should be some good battles...

Hehe

my science pump is down as well..... pretty close to what you suggested....other than def ...what should i be doing ...

Well, I already pointed out the conversion of the att specs. Converting the 2000 soldiers back to soldiers will raise your dpa as well.
You still have your Armories, so this should be your first priority.

After you've done this, this is a possible strat:

35% Homes
08% Farms
25% Barracks
20% Hospitals
05% Guilds
05% Towers
10% Watchtowers
02% Stables

Again, this was a relative consideration:
No Armories here, because this strat maxes out the hospitals, resulting in 80% fewer losses in combat, so you'll have to retrain fewer forces.
Furthermore, maxing out Barracks means attack time is halved. This will give you the opportunity to suicide, because if someone then retals on you, you'll be back fast enough to bash back again
And the 10% Watchtowers compensate well for your low tpa, because it gives you 40% chance of catching enemy Thieves.
But feel free to experiment with the numbers and good luck with the war

Edit:
Forgot to mention the Military training aspect:
You should have at least 9 def specs per acre (36 dpa permanent standing at home) and you should work towards 6,000-8,000 Elf Lords (@1,000 acres). Keep casting Minor Protection and you'll have adequate defense, but more importantly, tremendous fire power
Furthermore, try to get 1 tpa @ 1,000 acres, it's not a real priority, but always nice to have

[Eli]

Originally posted by War4ever
i have hit the 600acrepoint.......but i guess i am landfat...not quite sure..

2000att spec
4200def spec
2200 elites
1500 horses

my buildings are all within your ranges..almost on a tee....i switched barracks for hospitals though....

i am thinking i should have gone with more armouries than the strat suggested......

i only have 200 thieves and about 250 wizzies.......

my thieves die at an astonishing rate sometimes......

our kd is still a ghetto but we have a guy who defected who is larger than i now......which is good.....

we are going to war today with a dragon and against the kd (48 48) whom we have been at war with for almost 3/4 of a year.....

we are now about 100k networth bigger, since that new guy defected to us...so in reality without him we would be 3% larger only....so should be some good battles...

my science pump is down as well..... pretty close to what you suggested....other than def ...what should i be doing ...

Can you post a CB?
I lost 33 acres when someone two times bigger than me decided to attack. But I reached the 500 acres mark(well, in two hours ).

[War4ever]

dying during ops.....i always send all my thieves on operations.... i don't understand how many to send....i can't make that crystal ball thing work.... or i dont know what i am doing...lol

ok i will lose the off guyz and go elite def specs....

i got hammered by rosebud 48 41 for 45 acres...at least i had the animate the dead spell working...i never leave home without it..

anyways hes a 807 acre dwarf with 4000def spec and 6000 elites i beleive...... can anyone rape this guy for me....

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by War4ever
dying during ops.....i always send all my thieves on operations.... i don't understand how many to send....i can't make that crystal ball thing work.... or i dont know what i am doing...lol

Right, first, you copy the Kd page of your target province. Angel will automatically pop up and give you this (this is the formatted Kd page of your Kd):

Draco Fortus (48:1) Kingdom Analysis
[http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.23 Beta]

** Statistics **
Provinces in Kingdom: 23 (1 dead)
Total Land: 6,864 Acres (Average: 312 Acres)
Total Networth: 658,911gc (Average: 29,951gc)
Average Networth per Acre: 96gc
Dragon Cost: 1,153,094gc
Reduce 1% of Dragon: 221 soldiers
Dragon Send Range: 527,129gc - 790,693gc

** Races **
Human: 6 (26%)
Faery: 5 (22%)
Dwarf: 4 (17%)
Halfling: 4 (17%)
Elf: 3 (13%)
Avian: 1 (4%)

** Land **
1. Fenway Park [EL] - 542 Acres (7.9%)
2. Vasheedai [EL] - 427 Acres (6.2%)
3. Light of Death [DW] - 389 Acres (5.7%)
4. Evil Kittens [DW] - 385 Acres (5.6%)
5. homeboys [DW] - 369 Acres (5.4%)
6. WilD InsanitY [HU] - 343 Acres (5%)
7. Mildenhall [EL] - 339 Acres (4.9%)
8. Pools Of Darkness [HA] - 337 Acres (4.9%)
9. Costa del Wilkez [HA] - 333 Acres (4.9%)
10. Luna [HU] - 321 Acres (4.7%)
11. Magi from Hell [FA] - 319 Acres (4.6%)
12. My HeaD WlLL ExPloDe [HA] - 318 Acres (4.6%)
13. The Chevy King [HU] - 311 Acres (4.5%)
14. MaxiMumCarnage2 [FA] - 309 Acres (4.5%)
15. Lungloss [HA] - 296 Acres (4.3%)
16. Infernal Troglodytes [FA] - 280 Acres (4.1%)
16. The Golden Dragon [AV] - 280 Acres (4.1%)
18. Hoonah [DW] - 267 Acres (3.9%)
19. Imperial Armed Guard [FA] - 245 Acres (3.6%)
20. HeRmAnS FrRoDiT [HU] - 210 Acres (3.1%)
20. Homeless warrior2 [HU] - 210 Acres (3.1%)
22. NEVERENDING PROVINCE [FA] - 34 Acres (0.5%)

** Networth **
1. Fenway Park [EL] - 72,202gc (11%)
2. Pools Of Darkness [HA] - 44,467gc (6.7%)
3. Evil Kittens [DW] - 42,120gc (6.4%)
4. Lungloss [HA] - 41,715gc (6.3%)
5. Vasheedai [EL] - 38,465gc (5.8%)
6. homeboys [DW] - 34,351gc (5.2%)
7. Light of Death [DW] - 34,023gc (5.2%)
8. Costa del Wilkez [HA] - 32,626gc (5%)
9. The Chevy King [HU] - 31,068gc (4.7%)
10. My HeaD WlLL ExPloDe [HA] - 30,943gc (4.7%)
11. Magi from Hell [FA] - 29,680gc (4.5%)
12. Hoonah [DW] - 28,383gc (4.3%)
13. Luna [HU] - 27,637gc (4.2%)
14. The Golden Dragon [AV] - 27,581gc (4.2%)
15. Mildenhall [EL] - 25,749gc (3.9%)
16. WilD InsanitY [HU] - 24,799gc (3.8%)
17. Imperial Armed Guard [FA] - 23,954gc (3.6%)
18. Infernal Troglodytes [FA] - 22,749gc (3.5%)
19. MaxiMumCarnage2 [FA] - 19,423gc (2.9%)
20. Homeless warrior2 [HU] - 11,080gc (1.7%)
21. NEVERENDING PROVINCE [FA] - 9,351gc (1.4%)
22. HeRmAnS FrRoDiT [HU] - 6,545gc (1%)

** Networth per Acre **
1. NEVERENDING PROVINCE [FA] - 275.03gc
2. Lungloss [HA] - 140.93gc
3. Fenway Park [EL] - 133.21gc
4. Pools Of Darkness [HA] - 131.95gc
5. Evil Kittens [DW] - 109.4gc
6. Hoonah [DW] - 106.3gc
7. The Chevy King [HU] - 99.9gc
8. The Golden Dragon [AV] - 98.5gc
9. Costa del Wilkez [HA] - 97.98gc
10. Imperial Armed Guard [FA] - 97.77gc
11. My HeaD WlLL ExPloDe [HA] - 97.31gc
12. homeboys [DW] - 93.09gc
13. Magi from Hell [FA] - 93.04gc
14. Vasheedai [EL] - 90.08gc
15. Light of Death [DW] - 87.46gc
16. Luna [HU] - 86.1gc
17. Infernal Troglodytes [FA] - 81.25gc
18. Mildenhall [EL] - 75.96gc
19. WilD InsanitY [HU] - 72.3gc
20. MaxiMumCarnage2 [FA] - 62.86gc
21. Homeless warrior2 [HU] - 52.76gc
22. HeRmAnS FrRoDiT [HU] - 31.17gc

** Ranks **
1. The Golden Dragon [AV] - King
2. HeRmAnS FrRoDiT [HU] - Knight
2. My HeaD WlLL ExPloDe [HA] - Knight
2. WilD InsanitY [HU] - Knight
2. Hoonah [DW] - Knight
2. Evil Kittens [DW] - Knight
2. Imperial Armed Guard [FA] - Knight
2. MaxiMumCarnage2 [FA] - Knight
2. Fenway Park [EL] - Knight
2. Magi from Hell [FA] - Knight
2. homeboys [DW] - Knight
2. The Chevy King [HU] - Knight
2. Light of Death [DW] - Knight
2. Mildenhall [EL] - Lady
2. NEVERENDING PROVINCE [FA] - Knight
2. Homeless warrior2 [HU] - Knight
17. Infernal Troglodytes [FA] - Peasant
17. Pools Of Darkness [HA] - Peasant
17. Luna [HU] - Peasant
17. Lungloss [HA] - Peasant
17. Costa del Wilkez [HA] - Peasant
17. Vasheedai [EL] - Peasant

** Miscellaneous **
DEAD: Maxs hideout [HU]

Then you cast the CB on the province you want to investigate, I'll pick you , and then just copy the CB information, it will give you this:

The Province of Fenway Park (48:1)
[http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.23 Beta]

Utopian Date: June 16th, YR6
RL Date: December 16th, 2001 (21:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: The Wealthy Sir Mr Red Sox
Personality & Race: The Merchant, Elf
Land: 542 Acres
Money: 50,846gc
Food: 72,932 bushels
Runes: 6,075 runes
Population: 14,367 citizens (26.51 per Acre)
Peasants: 5,941 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 7,701 (84% Utilization)
Trade Balance: -130,034gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 72,202 (133.21 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 4,531gc

Soldiers: 0 (57.4% estimated draft rate)
Heroes: 1,792 (7,168 offense points)
Archers: 3,887 (15,548 defense points)
Elf Lords: 2,001 (10,005 offense and defense)
War-Horses: 1,016 (up to 1,016 additional offense)

Total Attack points: 18,189 (33.56 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 13,184 (24.32 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 25,553 (47.15 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 20,548 (37.91 per Acre)

Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 755 (1.39 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 566 (1.04 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 180 (0.33 per Acre)

** Thievery Advisor: **
Money: 121 thieves to steal up to 8,644gc
Food: 338 thieves to steal up to 36,466 bushels
Runes: 102 thieves to steal up to 2,126 runes
Peasants: 1,904 thieves to kidnap up to 238 peasants
Peasants in War: 1,900 thieves for 475 peasants
Arson: 3,750 thieves to burn up to 15 homes
Horses: 1,140 thieves to release up to 76 horses

This way you'll see how many thieves your opponent has and how many you need to send for certain ops.

Anyways hes a 807 acre dwarf with 4000def spec and 6000 elites i beleive...... can anyone rape this guy for me....

He's a bit far away

[Zopperoni]

This is my current Kd and CB:

Kd:

Tears of Disorder (6:8) Kingdom Analysis
[http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.23 Beta]

** Statistics **
Provinces in Kingdom: 25 (2 dead)
Total Land: 23,867 Acres (Average: 1,038 Acres)
Total Networth: 3,415,486gc (Average: 148,499gc)
Average Networth per Acre: 143.1gc
Dragon Cost: 5,977,101gc
Reduce 1% of Dragon: 1,139 soldiers
Dragon Send Range: 2,732,389gc - 4,098,583gc

** Races **
Elf: 9 (36%)
Avian: 5 (20%)
Human: 4 (16%)
Dwarf: 2 (8%)
Faery: 2 (8%)
Orc: 1 (4%)
Halfling: 1 (4%)
Undead: 1 (4%)

** Land **
1. Tears of Tempest [AV] - 2,407 Acres (10.1%)
2. Tears Of Happiness [AV] - 1,932 Acres (8.1%)
3. Cornea Tears [EL] - 1,922 Acres (8.1%)
4. Temple of Teardrops [HU] - 1,780 Acres (7.5%)
5. Papoisie nG [EL] - 1,656 Acres (6.9%)
6. Lifeless tears [HU] - 1,192 Acres (5%)
7. Tears of Genocide [AV] - 1,178 Acres (4.9%)
8. TriQuestra of TEARS [HA] - 1,119 Acres (4.7%)
9. The Musket Tear [EL] - 1,078 Acres (4.5%)
10. StrikE DomE [DW] - 1,075 Acres (4.5%)
11. the land of demond [HU] - 1,012 Acres (4.2%)
12. Universal Tears [EL] - 927 Acres (3.9%)
13. Utopian Rogue Dwarf [UD] - 830 Acres (3.5%)
14. Palace of DeathRaven [AV] - 790 Acres (3.3%)
15. Glory To God [EL] - 772 Acres (3.2%)
16. IceHeart [EL] - 702 Acres (2.9%)
17. Blood Tears I Cry [DW] - 695 Acres (2.9%)
18. Tears Of Ne Ne Pok [FA] - 580 Acres (2.4%)
19. Tears of Pain [FA] - 573 Acres (2.4%)
20. The Wishing Well [EL] - 534 Acres (2.2%)
21. No Damage [AV] - 483 Acres (2%)
22. Moonlight Glade [EL] - 452 Acres (1.9%)
23. Enluisia [EL] - 178 Acres (0.7%)

** Networth **
1. Tears of Tempest [AV] - 333,320gc (9.8%)
2. Tears Of Happiness [AV] - 303,473gc (8.9%)
3. Cornea Tears [EL] - 300,643gc (8.8%)
4. Temple of Teardrops [HU] - 247,346gc (7.2%)
5. Papoisie nG [EL] - 246,859gc (7.2%)
6. TriQuestra of TEARS [HA] - 187,716gc (5.5%)
7. Tears of Genocide [AV] - 178,085gc (5.2%)
8. The Musket Tear [EL] - 170,065gc (5%)
9. StrikE DomE [DW] - 168,370gc (4.9%)
10. Lifeless tears [HU] - 164,719gc (4.8%)
11. the land of demond [HU] - 160,433gc (4.7%)
12. Glory To God [EL] - 130,511gc (3.8%)
13. Universal Tears [EL] - 113,749gc (3.3%)
14. Utopian Rogue Dwarf [UD] - 105,587gc (3.1%)
15. Blood Tears I Cry [DW] - 103,595gc (3%)
16. Palace of DeathRaven [AV] - 101,114gc (3%)
17. Tears Of Ne Ne Pok [FA] - 92,576gc (2.7%)
18. IceHeart [EL] - 85,859gc (2.5%)
19. Tears of Pain [FA] - 75,979gc (2.2%)
20. The Wishing Well [EL] - 69,755gc (2%)
21. Moonlight Glade [EL] - 34,759gc (1%)
22. No Damage [AV] - 30,496gc (0.9%)
23. Enluisia [EL] - 10,477gc (0.3%)

** Networth per Acre **
1. Glory To God [EL] - 169.06gc
2. TriQuestra of TEARS [HA] - 167.75gc
3. Tears Of Ne Ne Pok [FA] - 159.61gc
4. the land of demond [HU] - 158.53gc
5. The Musket Tear [EL] - 157.76gc
6. Tears Of Happiness [AV] - 157.08gc
7. StrikE DomE [DW] - 156.62gc
8. Cornea Tears [EL] - 156.42gc
9. Tears of Genocide [AV] - 151.18gc
10. Papoisie nG [EL] - 149.07gc
11. Blood Tears I Cry [DW] - 149.06gc
12. Temple of Teardrops [HU] - 138.96gc
13. Tears of Tempest [AV] - 138.48gc
14. Lifeless tears [HU] - 138.19gc
15. Tears of Pain [FA] - 132.6gc
16. The Wishing Well [EL] - 130.63gc
17. Palace of DeathRaven [AV] - 127.99gc
18. Utopian Rogue Dwarf [UD] - 127.21gc
19. Universal Tears [EL] - 122.71gc
20. IceHeart [EL] - 122.31gc
21. Moonlight Glade [EL] - 76.9gc
22. No Damage [AV] - 63.14gc
23. Enluisia [EL] - 58.86gc

** Ranks **
1. The Musket Tear [EL] - King
2. Cornea Tears [EL] - Lord
2. Tears Of Ne Ne Pok [FA] - Lord
2. TriQuestra of TEARS [HA] - Lord
2. Lifeless tears [HU] - Lord
6. Papoisie nG [EL] - Knight
6. Glory To God [EL] - Knight
6. Tears of Genocide [AV] - Knight
6. Moonlight Glade [EL] - Knight
6. Enluisia [EL] - Knight
6. Temple of Teardrops [HU] - Lady
6. Palace of DeathRaven [AV] - Knight
6. the land of demond [HU] - Knight
6. StrikE DomE [DW] - Lady
6. Tears Of Happiness [AV] - Knight
6. The Wishing Well [EL] - Knight
6. Utopian Rogue Dwarf [UD] - Knight
6. Universal Tears [EL] - Knight
19. Blood Tears I Cry [DW] - Peasant
19. Tears of Tempest [AV] - Peasant
19. No Damage [AV] - Peasant
19. Tears of Pain [FA] - Peasant
19. IceHeart [EL] - Peasant

** Miscellaneous **
DEAD: The Forbidden Plain [OR]
DEAD: nighthawk [HU]

CB:

The Province of TriQuestra of TEARS (6:8)
[http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.23 Beta]

Utopian Date: June 17th, YR6
RL Date: December 16th, 2001 (22:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: The Wise Lord Belthazor
Personality & Race: The Sage, Halfling
Land: 1,119 Acres
Money: 73,575gc
Food: 399,796 bushels
Runes: 15,244 runes
Population: 29,685 citizens (26.53 per Acre)
Peasants: 5,082 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 13,868 (64% Utilization)
Trade Balance: 262,906gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 187,716 (167.75 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 39,892gc

Soldiers: 549 (77.5% estimated draft rate)
Spearmen: 0
Archers: 12,000 (48,000 defense points)
Half-Giants: 6,000 (30,000 offense / 24,000 defense)
War-Horses: 0

Total Attack points: 31,098 (27.79 per Acre)
Practical (60% elites): 19,098 (17.07 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 73,098 (65.32 per Acre)
Practical (40% elites): 58,698 (52.46 per Acre)

Thieves: 4,453 (3.98 per Acre / 82% Stealth)
Wizards: 1,601 (1.43 per Acre / 42% Mana)

Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 6,649 (5.94 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 4,987 (4.46 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 1,579 (1.41 per Acre)

Buildings: 918gc to build, 706gc to raze
Away bonus: 25,410gc (12h) / 76,230gc (20h)

I need to start pumping my tpa again

[War4ever]

ok that looks easy enough...i will try it next time i assume i shoul have angel up and running before i check out my province

[War4ever]

Originally posted by Zopperoni

The term "landfat" is related to your Networth/Acre-ratio, usually After you've done this, this is a possible strat:

35% Homes
08% Farms
25% Barracks
20% Hospitals
05% Guilds
05% Towers
10% Watchtowers
02% Stables

this adds up to 110% not 100% what do i cut out on

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by War4ever
this adds up to 110% not 100% what do i cut out on

oops, make that 25% Homes, and since you pumped Housing to ~+25%, every building will house ~25 people as well.

[Zopperoni]

OMG, I just hit the f*cking jackpot!!!!!

The Province of RockBottom (23:8)
[http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.23 Beta]

Utopian Date: June 17th, YR6
RL Date: December 16th, 2001 (22:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: The Wise Mr. Dumbar
Personality & Race: The Sage, Dwarf
Land: 1,157 Acres
Money: 5,627,591gc
Food: 0 bushels
Runes: 30,867 runes
Population: 29,823 citizens (25.78 per Acre)
Peasants: 13,930 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 17,107 (87% Utilization)
Trade Balance: -245,829gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 140,824 (121.71 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 17,753gc

Soldiers: 5,635 (50.9% estimated draft rate)
Axemen: 0
Archers: 1,019 (4,076 defense points)
Berserkers: 6,317 (37,902 offense / 31,585 defense)
War-Horses: 1,902 (up to 1,902 additional offense)

Total Attack points: 51,074 (44.14 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 32,120 (27.76 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 46,931 (40.56 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 31,136 (26.91 per Acre)

Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 2,959 (2.56 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 2,219 (1.92 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 703 (0.61 per Acre)

** Thievery Advisor: **
Money: 13,288 thieves to steal up to 956,690gc
Runes: 515 thieves to steal up to 10,803 runes
Peasants: 4,456 thieves to kidnap up to 557 peasants
Peasants in War: 4,456 thieves for 1,114 peasants
Soldiers: 845 thieves to kill up to 845 soldiers
Arson: 7,500 thieves to burn up to 30 homes
Horses: 2,145 thieves to release up to 143 horses

[Makeo]

i'm at 1000 acres and 120,000nw.

I would have hit your dwarf war but hes a bit too far from me too.

I just got hit by someone at 170,000nw. what a *****. i only attack people with greater nw than me.

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by Makeo
i'm at 1000 acres and 120,000nw.

I would have hit your dwarf war but hes a bit too far from me too.

I just got hit by someone at 170,000nw. what a *****. i only attack people with greater nw than me.

He probably used UtopiaTemple's Target finder. You do appear a bit landfat...
Try maintaining a NW/acre-ratio of 130-160 gc.

[War4ever]

yeah...makeo i got nailed by a guy who was way bigger than me too...jackals

[Makeo]

we've been at war for the past four or five days. they suck. this is the first war were we have been really successful. my nw has gone up about 30000 over the duration of the war.

I have reflect magic on almost constantly. its fun watching their spells bounce back.

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by Makeo
we've been at war for the past four or five days. they suck. this is the first war were we have been really successful. my nw has gone up about 30000 over the duration of the war.

Go on like this and you might overtake me

I have reflect magic on almost constantly. its fun watching their spells bounce back.

yeah, especially Tornadoes, Meteor Showers and Fireball.
I just got 30 hours of Reflect Magic for free from Swirve

[War4ever]

what is reflect magic????? i want some...i continously cast spells to protect myself but i have never seen this reflect magic before

[Makeo]

why did they give you reflect magic??

Reflect magic is a spell you can cast to give you a chance or reflecting spells cast on your province back on your enemy.

It must be race specific.

[War4ever]

it is race specific not for elves though

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by Makeo
why did they give you reflect magic??

I always get something for free every couple of days (land, food, runes, money or spells) and I get 5 acres per day for free, and all of this because I signed up for the Swirve e-mail account

[Zopperoni]

I just found another gold mine

The Province of Pluton Odd (36:8)
[http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.23 Beta]

Utopian Date: July 17th, YR6
RL Date: December 17th, 2001 (22:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: The Humble Sir Oddball
Personality & Race: The Shepherd, Elf
Land: 1,021 Acres
Money: 9,957,891gc
Food: 261,807 bushels
Runes: 33,871 runes
Population: 28,522 citizens (27.94 per Acre)
Peasants: 14,290 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 14,930 (97% Utilization)
Trade Balance: 2,889,845gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 150,126 (147.04 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 30,678gc

Soldiers: 1,598 (45.6% estimated draft rate)
Heroes: 0
Archers: 2 (8 defense points)
Elf Lords: 7,583 (37,915 offense and defense)
War-Horses: 700 (up to 700 additional offense)

Total Attack points: 41,811 (40.95 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 22,856 (22.39 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 41,119 (40.27 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 22,164 (21.71 per Acre)

Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 5,113 (5.01 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 3,835 (3.76 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 1,214 (1.19 per Acre)

** Thievery Advisor: **
Money: 23,512 thieves to steal up to 1,692,841gc
Food: 1,213 thieves to steal up to 130,904 bushels
Runes: 565 thieves to steal up to 11,855 runes
Peasants: 4,576 thieves to kidnap up to 572 peasants
Peasants in War: 4,572 thieves for 1,143 peasants
Soldiers: 240 thieves to kill up to 240 soldiers
Arson: 8,250 thieves to burn up to 33 homes
Horses: 780 thieves to release up to 52 horses

[Makeo]

oh man i wish i had of come to apolyton before utopia. i just used my theives down to 9% stealth kidnapping people from an enemy. i kidnapped him down to 55% utilization, but i think i would have gone after that province instead.

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by Makeo
oh man i wish i had of come to apolyton before utopia. i just used my theives down to 9% stealth kidnapping people from an enemy. i kidnapped him down to 55% utilization, but i think i would have gone after that province instead.

Don't worry, you got a lot of honor with the kidnapping, and he'll have plenty of money for the time being:

The Province of Pluton Odd (36:8)
[http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.23 Beta]

Utopian Date: January 8th, YR7
RL Date: December 18th, 2001 (13:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: The Humble Sir Oddball
Personality & Race: The Shepherd, Elf
Land: 1,021 Acres
Money: 6,523,919gc
Food: 62,011 bushels
Runes: 38,145 runes
Population: 28,548 citizens (27.96 per Acre)
Peasants: 14,146 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 14,779 (97% Utilization)
Trade Balance: 2,783,350gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 147,481 (144.45 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 31,708gc

Soldiers: 1,598 (46.1% estimated draft rate)
Heroes: 0
Archers: 2 (8 defense points)
Elf Lords: 7,583 (37,915 offense and defense)
War-Horses: 603 (up to 603 additional offense)

Total Attack points: 41,714 (40.86 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 22,759 (22.29 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 41,119 (40.27 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 22,164 (21.71 per Acre)

Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 5,285 (5.18 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 3,964 (3.88 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 1,255 (1.23 per Acre)

** Thievery Advisor: **
Money: 15,404 thieves to steal up to 1,109,066gc
Food: 288 thieves to steal up to 31,006 bushels
Runes: 636 thieves to steal up to 13,351 runes
Peasants: 4,528 thieves to kidnap up to 566 peasants
Peasants in War: 4,528 thieves for 1,132 peasants
Soldiers: 240 thieves to kill up to 240 soldiers
Arson: 8,250 thieves to burn up to 33 homes
Horses: 675 thieves to release up to 45 horses

[Eli]

I just noticed that I was with no bushels for more than a month!
NB and more money into FS ASAP.

Despite this, by tommorow I'll pass the 600 acres.

[War4ever]

hehe thanks zopper....i figured out how to cb someone properly with the angel and such....made a good land grab off an orc close to my size....took 53 acres of land

with my over 5000 def spec and 450 elites still at home, there shouldn't be any reprisals from this fella !!!!!

thanks again....

i have one question ... for my new strat , why don't i have banks? how do i mantain income....or do i steal it

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by War4ever
hehe thanks zopper....i figured out how to cb someone properly with the angel and such....made a good land grab off an orc close to my size....took 53 acres of land

with my over 5000 def spec and 450 elites still at home, there shouldn't be any reprisals from this fella !!!!!

Good going!

i have one question ... for my new strat , why don't i have banks? how do i mantain income....or do i steal it

I didn't make exact calculations, but your utilization should be good and you've pumped quite some money into Alchemy, so income should be OK. Otherwise, ask for money in the forums
What's your current income?

Edit:
This is an alteration of the earlier strat:

35% Homes
05% Farms
05% Guilds
05% Towers
20% Hospitals
25% Barracks
05% Stables

This will work better I think.

[War4ever]

i make about 29500k and my upkeep is around 4500...so i am neting about 25ooo with all my banks right now.......

5400defspec
2400elites
450offspec...to train into elites when they come home...
250 wizzies
175 thieves

i need way more elites...so i can't go hospitals yet.....as i need those armouries...

125 homes 21.5%
55 farms 9.5%
112 arm 19.2%
125 barack 21.5%
89 banks 15.3%
30 guilds/towers 5% each
12 stables 2%
4 forts under construction...

i am losing 2-300 bushels of food per month
not really growing too quick
i have tons of cash but no troops to train...
when i am sent troops, i then lose peasants as am maxed in limits
i have done all my science research

casting paradise is expensive and i don't produce as many runes now that i cut it by half.

i am low on thieves, wizzies, and elites......

i wonder what i should do with my 53 new acres in 12 hours....

at least my arnies come home quick!

any thoughts