tech tree problems

Mortee · May 31, 2000, 09:57

This is probably basic to everyone but me:

I'm new to civ2 scenario design (but I have
read the design tips on the scenario league
page) and I'm trying to use Blackclove's
instructions to create a scenario with
several separate tech trees.

I can edit advances using the MGE advances
editor, but this doesn't allow the "once removed", "twice removed" tricks. When I
use a text editor to edit rules.txt (being
*very* careful about format and spacing)
I always seem to have civ2 crash when it
tries to start my scenario.

Does it matter *which* text editor I use?
Or does this mean I accidentally made
a loop or didn't make FutureTech available?

I wish civ2 would say what is wrong, instead
of crashing with a message about trying to
do an illegal operation.

Any ideas?
Thanks!

myrlyn · May 31, 2000, 13:11

could ya send me a copy of the rules.txt you are useing? i would like to take a look at it.

thanks

William Keenan · May 31, 2000, 22:04

Crashes like that are almost allways tech tree related. In most cases the abbreviation for a perequistite tech is wrong. Case matters, Col will crash your system but CoL will not. Nil is another no-no.

The best way to trouble shoot this is to copy the techs from the original Civ2 tech tree over your @CIVILIZE section. Then paste in your tech tree three or four lines at a time (checking the game after each paste) until you find the problem lines(s).

ZhugeLiang · June 1, 2000, 00:43

Hmm...it crashes your system eh....well make sure that everything, i.e. AI value pre-req's are placed correctly and are within acceptable paramaters, and if you haven't done so already you should download the latest patch for your version of civ 2.....how i wish someone would create a new scenerio editor for civ 2...oh well...

myrlyn · June 1, 2000, 03:41

it will also crash if you forget to put a comma where it should be
look next to your entry for factory
put that , where it should be and the rules will work just fine

check mark for today!!!!!!!

"you know you are in trouble when you start beliveing your own propaganda" :P

[This message has been edited by myrlyn (edited June 01, 2000).]

Mortee · June 1, 2000, 10:48

Thanks for the help! Aaagh..
My kingdom for a comma.

I have a little Perl program that will
read a Rules.txt and then lets me query
it to find out:

the tree of a tech
what is reachable from a certain tech (nil, or a normally unreachable tech)

Now that I know the problem I updated it
to print a warning if it detects a missing
comma. Thanks!!!!!!!

Mortee · June 1, 2000, 10:51

Thanks for the help! Aaagh..
My kingdom for a comma.

I have a little Perl program that will
read a Rules.txt and then lets me query
it to find out:

the tree of a tech
what is reachable from a certain tech (nil, or a normally unreachable tech)

Now that I know the problem I updated it
to print a warning if it detects a missing
comma. Thanks!!!!!!!