Beyond Alpha Centauri: Discussion Thread

[Guardian]

Originally posted by Sprayber

Tickle us do we not laugh
Pr*ick us do we not bleed
Wrong us....... shall we not revenge.

Eh??
What are you talking about??!?

Ah well!
If by "wrong us" you mean "fail to be intimidated by our threats", then fine, so be it!
Go ahead and give us your best shot, and we shall gladly join forces with the Hive for a few years...

-Damn Spartans! Always causing trouble...

[Guardian]

Somewhere on a Peacekeeper base...


Aide: "Sir! The convoy to Xanthia is ready to depart. They've requested an escort."
Commander: "Very well. Assign a battle cruiser to escort the convoy."
Aide: "Sir, we have reports of a Spartan vessel..."

Commander (interrupting his aide): "Okay, make that five battle cruisers."

[Kassiopeia]

I remember scan reading that there is going to be a Beyond Alpha Centauri website

I've got one prepared, but it can't have too many pictures since it has a 5 meg size limit. Maps should fit in nicely.
It has a lot of other stuff (Made it in five hours, the result looks just like that) but the BAC section is:

http://personal.phpoint.net/nortti/bac.htm

It has for now the Terran Timeline. Other Coalition /InEn /Alliance thingies I will now download from Poly. If someone wants their faction stuff there, ask.

Commander (interrupting his aide): "Okay, make that five battle cruisers."

You need five battle cruisers to down a single Spartan vessel!?

[History Guy]

Looks good, Kassiopeia. Maybe when I've done some more work you can put up some Morgan stuff there too.

[History Guy]

Spraybayer, Cyon Solo? Good heavens, she looks...horrific!

[Kassiopeia]

If my page would have to be given the name of a Secret Project, it would definitely be "Ascetic Virtues"...

I just can't personally stand those pages with horrific backgrounds and difficult text. What is wrong with plain black on white?

[Kassiopeia]

And btw, could you please "test drive" the site with other browsers then IE should you have one?

[Sprayber]

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[Sprayber]

Kass: I like the site. Your right in that simple is sometimes better. I would like to ask one thing however. What happened to Mars? When the Unity left the Sol system, it was there. Did you guys blow it up?


History Guy: Cyan Solo is going to be very dangerous female. I originally had her in mind for CC but never got around to introducing her. She will make her appearence felt. She is so dangerous the Spartans felt the need to put her into cryo sleep.

Note: You comic fans out there may recognize her as certain character caught between heaven and hell

[Frankychan]

Go ahead and give us your best shot, and we shall gladly join forces with the Hive for a few years...

The Greater Hive Empire and Peacekeepers?

Despotism and (bleh) Democracy?

Emperor Yang does not want a war with the Spartans or does he? Not with that cryo sleep chick. Or maybe we gots something under our sleeve? A death star? (just joking)

Although that cryo-chick really is starting to put me in "a pickle".


* * *
Official Transmission to Sparta from Hive

"The attack on your fringe colonies was a terrible mistake. We
believed Sparta was amassing an invasion fleet and unfortunately, Hive ships decided to take it into their own hands to deal with the problem. Rest assured, all Hive personnel responsible are 'taken care' of."

-Minister Zell

[Frankychan]

Oh yeah,

I forgot to ask..

Which author is what faction?

Who is the leader of each faction?

Why does ice cream taste so good?

Sorry if this sounds kinda 'bossy' but these questions have been plaguing me for some time now.

[Sprayber]

Spartan----Sprayber
Independent Planet--Sprayber
Hive---Franky Chan
Peacekeepers----Guardian
Pirates---Lord LMP
Fraal-----Lord LMP
Human faction---Lord LMP Sorry I can't remember which one LMP is directing
Titan faction---Cybergod?
Terrans (Sol) ---Kass
Free Drone Republic---Mr. President
Morgan Inisteller----History Guy
University--Darkcloud will drop in from time to time to write
Data Angels-----Argonaut (Haven't heard from him in a while. Hopefully he can help out a little.
Gaians----Alynzia


If I missed anyone im sorry. It's not that I did on purpose, but because there has been so much to keep up with besides this thread. This was done from memory. If you guys want, mention this to others and get more people to join. I want to do maybe some kind of independent planet or something. There has to be some out there. It will be human of course. Maybe something along the lines of a lost colonly or something.


edited: So I could fix my mistake about the Terrans

[Kassiopeia]

Human faction---Lord LMP Sorry I can't remember which one LMP is directing

Belters and Scions. Part time.

Terran Alliance---Kass

Terran Alliance is not a separate faction.

All factions in Sol belong to Terran Alliance.

Think of NATO for instance. Common protection, with added economic interests and the Terran Alliance Joint Task Forces.

It's a loosely built attempt to create system-wide goverment.

Now, what is the real faction of Earth is the fabled Earth Coalition. I also have InEn, so it should be:

Earth Coalition, InEn---Kass

[Guardian]

Originally posted by kassiopeia

You need five battle cruisers to down a single Spartan vessel!?

No, but if the Spartans see that they're outnumbered, outgunned and out of luck, perhaps they'll be bright enough to refrain from messing with that convoy and we won't have to down them at all.

Of course, they won't be happy with us, but hey... they're never happy with us...

-kind of like we're never happy with them, I guess...

[Sprayber]

Kass: I didn't mean to imply that the Terran alliance was a separate faction from the rest of sol, but I do see where it could be implied that way. Love you site BTW. But you didn't say what happend to Mars.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Guardian


No, but if the Spartans see that they're outnumbered, outgunned and out of luck, perhaps they'll be bright enough to refrain from messing with that convoy and we won't have to down them at all.

Of course, they won't be happy with us, but hey... they're never happy with us...

-kind of like we're never happy with them, I guess...

I meant to put in there somewhere that the commander of the ship had been diciplined. I don't think the Spartans are exactly determined to have a war. Cause they have a whole lot of other enemies to worry about. Hive, Bree and Pirate activity. But if you read my timeline you might see that Spartans took one of your colonies. I don't know how big you want the PKs to be, but I would say that they have many more far flung colonies than the spartans who like to stay somewhat compacted to avoid surprise invasions.

[Guardian]

Originally posted by frankychan

The Greater Hive Empire and Peacekeepers?

Unlikely?
Yes, most definitely so.

Impossible?
Very well could be.

I guess an official alliance is rather out of the question.

-But if at any time we both happen to be at war with Sparta, it would be foolish not to have some level of cooperation, wouldn't it?

[Guardian]

Originally posted by Sprayber

I meant to put in there somewhere that the commander of the ship had been diciplined. I don't think the Spartans are exactly determined to have a war. Cause they have a whole lot of other enemies to worry about. Hive, Bree and Pirate activity. But if you read my timeline you might see that Spartans took one of your colonies. I don't know how big you want the PKs to be, but I would say that they have many more far flung colonies than the spartans who like to stay somewhat compacted to avoid surprise invasions.

Agreed. -And the PK military is kind of pissed off about having to be in all kinds of crazy places all at once, since it inevitably leads to forces being spread out way to thin in some regions... I'll get back to that...

Yeah, I read about Coventry. You failed to hold it though.

Guess I should make a timeline of my own one of these days...

[Sprayber]

Yeah but the Spartans actually attacked two of your colonies. New Calodon was very close to Spartan space. They attacked Coventry first and then attacked NC. New Calodon is know apart of the Spartan Territoral Annex. Coventry is was just gonna be a bonus. The real target had been New Calodon. But it was just a small one anyway. I thought that there had to be some history of animostiy between the two.

Surely PKs would side with the hive since they are know associates of the insidious Bree.

[Guardian]

Okay, guess I missed something there... now that you mention it, it does ring a bell though...
Guess I must have sort of just skimmed through it in a hurry and not really digested all of it...

Anyway, I'm okay with it.

-You've already paid lots... next time you'll pay even more...

( -@#¤£$?!*'s Spartans... )

[Alynzia]

A little out of context with your jovial name calling, but if there ever was to be trouble with the Spartans and the Hive and Peacekeepers, a possible alliance between the Hive and Peacekeepers could happen via the Gaians because the Gaians have understandings with the Hive and I think we have a very close relationship with the Peacekeepers, sharing a base on Chiron and we used to go out exploring space with them back in the old days.

I am so sorry I have not had time to write biographies for my people. How can History Guy say Cyan is horrific? Hasn't he seen my senate?!?

Also I checked out the site kass made...

[History Guy]

Nice biographies, Franky Chan. What is the matter with the Peacekeepers and the Hive, huh? All ganging up on poor little CEO Moron, errr...that's Morgan. If the Peacekeepers aren't shooting Spartans to pieces, and vice versa, over my Morgan Interstellar holdings, some sneaky little Ehud guy is lamenting over his grand-dad's death and blaming it on us. And it's just 'cause you are all jealous of our superior products. This Ehud guy, he's a tough-guy. Trying to boost his economy way out of proportion, if you ask the old CEO. Capitalism, something no Morganite can stand. Well, anyway, this Ehud guy. Might get too much of a danger for his own good if you know what I mean, right? Anyway, I like your work, Franky (as I like the work of just about everyone). Keep it up. Peacekeepers and Hive joining up though...hmmm...it's possible. it's not probable, but anything is possible when it comes to Lal and Yang. Never could trust 'em. A Hive death-star...what an interesting (but totally unusable) idea. *Pictures the Kang guy dressed as Darth Vader and Yang sitting around in a cloak* Emperor Yang: You know, us guys on the Dark Side, you know, we have gotta put an end to these rebels of society. You know, Deirdre, Morgan, Prokhor, Corazon, that bunch. Darth Kang: Have no worry, Emperor, with the Hive Star, the rebellion will be squisherooed. *Clenches fist* As for the faction leaders, I believe Santiago has retired from Sparta and is replaced by a General Kessel. As for we Morganites, CEO Nwabudike is still top banana, as is, I believe, Zakharov (and to a lesser extent Deirdre) for his faction. Svensgaard and Miriam, I believe, are no more. They have ceased to be. That weird lady in charge of the Data Angels is also dead, I think. As for the Peacekeepers, I'm under the impression that Lal is still up and about. But Domai is no longer in charge of the Drones, it's now 'Kristy Adams'. As for your ice cream question, I have no sufficient answer.

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by Sprayber
But you didn't say what happend to Mars.

I browsed through my directory, and started to put down the Sol text part. Then a thought arose to me: "Earth, Asteroid Belt... Something's missing here."

Lost to cyberspace I spose.
Anyways, v. 1.1 is up and running (should be *checks* yup) Bios complete, Sol desc complete, Coalition good way through.

About ship classes. How's this for Coalition:

Fighter(s)
Scout
Corvette
Frigate
Cruiser
Heavy Cruiser
Battle Cruiser
Dreadnaught
Carrier

Some rough measurement could help also. Weapons I guess will be the rail gun - torpedo type stuff, eh?

[Frankychan]

I like the idea of the Gaians being a liason between the Peacekeepers (anyone watch Farscape?) and the Greater Hive Empire.

Although we are not at war with the Spartans

Anyway, I was wondering if Miriam is still in charge of the Believers and if Lal is in charge of the Peacekeepers.

Another thing, do you all think the Hive has been in contact with the Sol system? I personally don't think so because of 1. Spartan space "buffering" Sol, acting as a barrier. 2. Yang has his own agenda to fulfill which doesn't concern Sol.

But if Hive has been in contact with Sol, I think it would be like the others, spy insertion by independent traders....What do you all think?

[Guardian]

Is Lal still in charge of the Peacekeepers?
Well, I haven't really decided yet... he would be getting pretty old, but then again, it seems Morgan and Yang are still around, so why not? If you guys want him I'll keep him!

Originally posted by Alynzia

and I think we have a very close relationship with the Peacekeepers

Now, that's what I like to hear!

Need anything, Lady?

[Sprayber]

So its shaping up to be

Spartans/Morganites/Drones vs PKs/Hive/Gaians uh

tell me. what will the PKs do when they find out that the Hive has been aiding the Bree? The race that has from the looks of it attacked every human faction except the Hive and PKs

[Sprayber]

lets not get into the war fevor just yet. Lets allow ourselves a little time to write some stuff about your faction first before we get involved with war.

[Guardian]

Originally posted by Sprayber

tell me. what will the PKs do when they find out that the Hive has been aiding the Bree? The race that has from the looks of it attacked every human faction except the Hive and PKs

Well, let's just say that we won't be too pleased...

But hey, that's nothing new. We never were too pleased with the Hive and they never much cared for us either. -But that won't stop us throwing everything we have at the Spartans if it comes to that...

Originally posted by Sprayber
lets not get into the war fevor just yet. Lets allow ourselves a little time to write some stuff about your faction first before we get involved with war.

Agreed.

Sorry for dissapearing for a bit, i have been busy. I also wasn't able to complete much, but did get the site up and started. In the next bit, will be filled up with stuff. So any information on your factions either send to beyondalphacentauri@yahoo.com or post it in the admin thread.

The site's url is www.geocities.com/beyondalphacentauri

not the best webmanship, but shouldn't matter. Mainly somewhere to place information of the various factions.

I haven't read much of the thread aswell this past week, but Cybergod, please no super godlike beings...just ends up making the game unrealistic in the long run and godmodish.

Also, I will do the description of Venus, the Belters and the Scions. Venus IS self-sufficient and don't need to depend on any one. they may before, but not anymore. They are also quite neutral.

kass, if they can colonize venus, they should be able to colonize Mercury, but depend on the use of radiation shields and etc...

tHE General event timelime i will do and post on the website.... after that, post/send your timeslines base on that general site.

sprayber, if you wish to work on the site aswell, i can pm the password.

now, to read the thread and state my opinion

-LMP

...currently in a exciting hyper good mood....

[They are a multi-ethnic working community, with a low population - couple of millions? (help Kass!) The Titan people support the ideals of the early Drone Republic (before Domai's fall) and the Mars Combine government has strong backing here. The current government was set up by InEn, to organise a mining colony that grew into proper settlement, is still in place only due to the fact that the people have not found a reason to rebel - they get supplies shipped regulary from the Alliance so why starve? This might change if some other influentative faction gives the rebels support and helps them build complexes of bio-plantations, something the T. Alliance stopped building to make the Titans "addicted" and dependant on their supplies, therefore controlling the unhappy citizens (no work - no food). My suggestion is to let me be a new governor for Titan, as appointed by the Alliance, since the former governor is believed to have joined the rebels. Many political games are played until my character (who has good contacts on Mars) also chooses to join the rebels. I think it would be risky to do this but imagine this split in the Sol factions:

Cybergod, Titan in reality as a good chance to have a jungle like ecosystem. SO not another dull cratered moon. If it as plants, also a possibility of having its own atmosphere filled with oxygen.
If so, Titan will most likely be the second/third place to be colonized after Mars and maybe Luna. So the idea of having a mining community on a greenish jungle like moon? When i hear and see Titan, i imagine a jungle like moon....

Team A:
Terran Alliance
Luna
The Venus Colonies - heavily depend on Earth
Neptun/Uranus Colonies? (these might crumble)

Team B:
The Belters
Mars Combine
Jovians
Saturnians (what do you call them them )

Team C: (Neutral)
The Scions


Is this pheasable?

No teams please... Terran ALliance is comprised of factions in Sol, but no civil war type teams. Major Terran factions is Earth Coalition and Mars Combine...then InEn.

Venus is self-dependable by the 2500s, and don't depend on anyone. They Neutral

the Belters cannot exactly be depended upon to support anyone's side. So they quite erratic relations wise.

The Scions are Neutral and prefer not to trade many of their most advance techs....but not better then the Fraal or Proginators...but slightly more advance then Chironians. anywaym will do the descs on the webpage.

Kass, another thing would like to mention.... You mention sol being against genetic/cyborg manipulation.....well, Scions use to be humans..... if the Terran Alliance have policies like that, then they would make the Scions outlaws. and the Belters wouldn't care either
also, why would they be so against genetic manipulation? may have a purist political group in the terran alliance.....longivity could be banned, but what is the use? Longivity exist, bt not as good as the Chironians and available to small percentage of the Sol population. (the rich and more infrastructured factions). Morganites would provide better longivity technology, for high price

-LMP