Kohan

Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS · January 22, 2002, 18:42

I've been playing Kohan for almost 3 days straight and have got to say it's an absolute blast. The mechanics for company construction, it's city management system, the graphics/voice-acting are all fantastic. It's dropped in price recently, so nows the time to jump on it.

Jeff

korn469 · January 22, 2002, 19:15

so that's why the patch isn't out yet!

btw is it RTS? an add for it came in the EU2 box

Imran Siddiqui · January 23, 2002, 04:15

Yeah, it is an RTS... but I think it is streamlined, instead of individual units, you have companies, as I take it.

MattyBoy · January 24, 2002, 00:03

Judging by what Underdogs says here it's too good a game to reject on the RTS vs TBS grounds.

I think I'll buy it as the price falls (currently 30+ US dollars where I shop) and it needs a P II 300MHz, which I don't have yet.

yin26 · January 24, 2002, 04:37

Yep, it's fun. Very stylish. Clearly a quality team worked on it.

As for Civ3 ...

Once the fan-subsidized beta phase winds down and we get the feature-complete Gold Edition perhaps by the end of this year, it will be interesting to see if Firaxis can make a game of similar caliber. Too bad it will have cost $100 to participate in all phases of the testing program.

How much is Kohan again?

SixArmedMan · January 24, 2002, 09:12

You don't have to be snide. Civ 3 bashing should be left to subjects or forums dedicated to Civ3 bashing(i.e. the general forum). You're just threadjacking now.

Kohan's expansion came out just a bit ago but I think it's still a stand alone and doesn't require the original. In Canada, It goes for about $40, so maybe $30 American. Everyone I know who's played is usually impressed with how well implemented the game is. Considering it's performed well, depite the limited marketing, it's a testament to how solid the game design is.

(Oh. Published by the same folks who published Europa Universalis.)

yin26 · January 24, 2002, 11:47

I'll post when and how I please. When the QA guy from Firaxis posts about a game other than the one his is responsible for fixing, I find comparisons between the two games to be on-topic.

MarkG · January 24, 2002, 13:41

Yin, the topic of this thread is a specific game. If you want to discuss the comparison of two games, please post in the Apolyton/Community forum

thank you.

SixArmedMan · January 24, 2002, 14:13

Besides, let's face it. You were using this thread to get on his case rather than talk about the game. We're not exactly idiots here.

Imran Siddiqui · January 24, 2002, 17:15

Heheh, right on SixArmedMan.

And, I just played the demo and it looks like a total blast. I, personally, despise RTS, but I might just get this one.

yin26 · January 24, 2002, 18:26

LOL! I stand by my original statement: Kohan is a fun, highly polished game that you won't need to wait for the Gold Edition to have a feature-complete experience with.

Markos: Fair enough. I have said my peace.

SixArmedMan · January 24, 2002, 18:44

Well Yin, you seem to know so much about the game. I mean, you've said lots of great things about it, and compared it to other games and stuff... How many times have you played it again? Not that I'm saying that your flattering compliments are merely a pre-text to justify using this thread to carry out your vendetta against Firaxis or anything...

yin26 · January 24, 2002, 20:02

Tell you what: Try the game and get back to us.

TCO · January 24, 2002, 20:23

Quote:

Originally posted by yin26
Tell you what: Try the game and get back to us.

You mean Civ3 right?

yin26 · January 24, 2002, 20:49

Civ3? Is that out yet?

Sarxis · January 25, 2002, 09:07

So Kohan is that good? I really hadn't even considered looking at the game, but I need my "New Game" fix, and since SEIV Gold and MOO3 are yet a ways off..

I think I will do some Kohan research.

Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS · January 25, 2002, 15:52

It really doesn't play like many real time games, especially with regards to unit management. It's just a kick to see some 50 diverse military units clash against another 50, but I'm really only directly controlling 7 or so individuals. I have rarely found any RTS where most of my time isn't spent drag-selecting. Kohan however is such a game. The only thing that I think needed some extra work is the way it displays your resources. The negative numbers don't indicate any real problem, just that you're paying gold to make up the difference. A small fault in an otherwise magnificent tutorial..

Jeff

Sarxis · January 26, 2002, 06:54

I went and got the latest Kohan.. Ahriman's Gift.

What a fun game! It is quite unique from other RTS games (and I have played a lot of them). Easy to manage, and just a blast combining different units to form specialized companies and regiments. And you're right: the micromanging and click-infestation is negligeble.

Thanx for the heads-up on this one!

Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS · January 28, 2002, 16:14

The company construction stuff has all the addictiveness of a CCG, but with smaller decks and lots of them. Once I found the halberd/cleric/mage combo, I must have depended on them for a quarter of the solo campaign. But as I started understanding how the provided benefits work (that they need to be in support slots, etc), I started using a stable of company compositions. One favorite was the ranger/paladin/archers. These guys could speed through forests like they weren't there, attack at range, and get a bonus against shadow creatures. Not to mention the paladin was like a lawnmower if anyone managed to get close.

Jeff

paulmagusnet · February 2, 2002, 07:19

I don't dislike RTS, I just generally hate the implementations. I did like Kohan very much but still, as in all RTS's, just when you've built your kingdom up you have to throw the game away because you won. There isn't even a hall of fame to remember your efforts by.

Most RTS, and even to some extent Kohan, primarily uise the old O&O strategy which makes for rather repetative games. (out produce and overwhelm)

Ps, he may be threadjacking a bit but it was limited to a legitimate comparison so technidcally he can be guilt free.

To put things in perspective, if you really want to try a deadly awful game get a copy of 'Merchant Prince II'.