Petition: We are dissatisfied and we respectfully ask Sid

Capt Dizle · February 4, 2002, 21:30

Petition: We are dissatisfied and we respectfully ask Sid Meier to register on this forum and if it should please him to:

1.Respond to our concerns
2.Outline future plans for Civ3 in detail
3.Explain what specific role he played in the development of Civ3
4.Just hang out a bit so that we will all be reassured that Firaxis has a soul.

Please just sign on if you support this folks, no need to flame or add your two cents worth. This is a sincere effort to reach out to Sid.

MOHonor · February 4, 2002, 21:40

Dude time to get the prozac subscription filled.

Capt Dizle · February 4, 2002, 21:43

I am taking my pills littlemo. Thanks for expressing your dissatisfaction with the game.

Pembleton · February 4, 2002, 21:50

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmytrick
Petition: We are dissatisfied and we respectfully ask Sid Meier to register on this forum and if it should please him to:

1.Respond to our concerns
2.Outline future plans for Civ3 in detail
3.Explain what specific role he played in the development of Civ3

Um, I guess I'll be the one to break it to you. He really didn't have much to do with the game's design at all.

yin26 · February 4, 2002, 21:55

Would be awfully great to see Sid reply, even if it's just to tow the company line. If I were him, though, I'd be pretty happy with people thinking I had/have nothing to do with Civ3.

Skanky Burns · February 4, 2002, 22:20

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Originally posted by yin26
If I were him, though, I'd be pretty happy with people thinking I had/have nothing to do with Civ3.

Yin, bringing sarcasm to new levels

Foot · February 4, 2002, 22:32

I think they should fix science, make rubber, iron and coal easier to find, fix the fact that actually (gasp!) FIGHTING an offensive war will cause crippling dissent in all your cities under a republic or a democracy, and get the AI to stop cheating.
And fix the timeflow.

Dida · February 4, 2002, 23:00

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Originally posted by Foot
I think they should fix science, make rubber, iron and coal easier to find, fix the fact that actually (gasp!) FIGHTING an offensive war will cause crippling dissent in all your cities under a republic or a democracy, and get the AI to stop cheating.
And fix the timeflow.

AI cheats in every strategy game. That is no problem. I'm fighting a offensive war in my game, and my citizens are fairly happen. You just have to carefully managed them. rubber, iron are fairly easy to find. Coal however, is a different story. I don't know why they included it in the game at all.
One of the problems that I have though, is only by fighting an offensive war, and grab your enemy's land can you ensure that you got all the resources needed to stay alive. It is very hard to play peacefully.

notyoueither · February 4, 2002, 23:31

Is anyone going to say *Aye*? It would be nice, wouldn't it?

Aye, but not holding my breath.

Salve

PS. I would find it perfectly acceptable if all he said was that he and Firaxis were prohibited from speculating or relaying plans due to agreements with Infogrames (if that is in fact the case, as I've seen hinted at). What else would explain the discrepencies between the Firaxian statements re Civ3 and Sid's own solicitations re Golf?

Capt Dizle · February 5, 2002, 01:38

Sid? Sid? Where are you Sid?

I am calling you out! Get yer yellow bellied, chicken feathered, no golf playing dino hide over here on this forum and talk to us folks.

(wonder if that will work)

(if nothing else this will drive Mark into a snit)

(two categories of humorless creatures-game gods and forum moderators)

Sid? Don't make me write poems about you man!

Come on. Email me if you don't know how to register a callsign.

(maybe I should sing a Firaxis choir favorite)

Sid is Good, Sid is Great,
I'll go gay if Sid's my date,
Give me dinos and golf simulate,
I'll eat beans off Meier's plate.

(somehow I don't think that will get him here)

Sid, did ya ever play Civ3? Did ya?

(i wonder if taunting a game god on the net is a federal offense?)

yin26 · February 5, 2002, 01:41

Challenge him to a CPU Bach-Off. Worked for me in the early 90's.

Capt Dizle · February 5, 2002, 01:43

A what?

yin26 · February 5, 2002, 01:47

Click Here. You send him a love ballad with that baby and I bet he'll be your Posting Pal for the next few days!

Capt Dizle · February 5, 2002, 01:47

WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) - A congressional committee trying to serve a subpoena on former Firaxis. Chairman Sid Meier said on Monday his personal attorney does not know where Meier is and could not accept the subpoena.

``We made contact with Mr. Meier's attorney this afternoon ... He tells us he does not know of Sid's whereabouts, which we find quite puzzling to say the least,'' said Peggy Peterson, spokeswoman for the House Financial Services Committee.

Earl Silbert, Meier's attorney, was unavailable for comment. A woman answering the phone at his home said he was ill.

Meier resigned from the board of the fallen gaming company on Monday as two congressional committees vowed to force him to come before them to testify on Firaxis's collapse and the Civ3 controversy.

Teeba · February 5, 2002, 01:47

Good show jimmy. This thread should be moved to the SimGolf forums, however.

Capt Dizle · February 5, 2002, 01:51

Wow yin! I never heard of CPU Bach. Sid is such a talented guy.

Capt Dizle · February 5, 2002, 01:57

I found the following while looking at the Bach thingie:

Quote:

The other thing was really a response to Civilization. Civilization had been so successful, it had created this big wave of pressure of "what's Sid going to do next?" I really sensed a danger that I didn't want to get into this "topping myself every time" phenomenon. I saw mental illness down that road. I said I am not going to get in the business of topping Civilization and then trying to top what comes after Civilization. There lies madness.

This was something I had kind of wanted to play with for a while. Nobody's going to compare it to Civilization and say, well, it's a little more fun or it should have done this or whatever. So it was kind of a mental relaxation thing doing CPU Bach. It was a great, fun experience - definitely off the beaten track. Somewhat of an indulgence on my part, but it kind of got my brain back in shape again.

I guess I should give Sid some slack, looks like he really did have a nervous breakdown. Sorry Sid.

yin26 · February 5, 2002, 01:57

Yes, Uncle Enron(

) is very talented and doesn't mind doing stuff that's a bit off-beat or new to him. This is why he never does sequels (as far as I know).

[...waiting for somebody to say: "Yin, you are so fricken stupid! Duh! Sid never does sequels? Have you ever heard of Civ2 and 3? Dumba**!" Jimmy, do you want to break that news to them or should I?]

Capt Dizle · February 5, 2002, 02:02

Mark, will you pin this thread to the top so we can psychoanalyze Sid at our leisure?

yin26 · February 5, 2002, 02:05

Not only Sid: I bet Brian Reynolds encountered that same madness gearing up to try to top Civ2, looked at Sid working on a Sim Golf game and ... well ... figure it was time to escape the Funny Farm.

Teeba · February 5, 2002, 02:37

Nah, pretty soon you're gonna see Brian Reynolds "Civ-Golf" on the store shelves. It'll be like Simgolf with Civ elements: Competing with other courses, negotiating land deals for expansion, political dealing for zoning rights and plucking those cheap groundskeepers from 3rd world labour pools.

I'll bet that's why he left. It's gonna be awesome...

Asher · February 5, 2002, 02:43

So many new posters!

loinburger · February 5, 2002, 03:06

What the hell is this doing here?

N. Machiavelli · February 5, 2002, 03:10

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Originally posted by Asher

So many new posters!

Ain't it wonderful?

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if Sid never emerged from the void he now resides. The guys seemed to have as much input into the creation of Civ3 as George Forman had in the invention of his 'Lean Mean Fat-Reducing Grilling Machine'. Hopefully we won't see Sid on 3 AM info-mercials.