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View Poll Results: Are you prepared to die for your country?
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April 10, 2002, 11:39
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Are you prepared to die for your country?
Well, are you?
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April 10, 2002, 11:46
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No, I'm not.
However, I'm fully prepared to make the other bastard die for his country though.
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April 10, 2002, 11:47
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Re: Are you prepared to die for your country?
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Originally posted by Kamrat X
Well, are you?
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For this scrap of land? Nah.
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April 10, 2002, 11:48
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By "die for your country" are you talking about a situation where the very existence of my country is under threat? Or is a broader question, which would include any war my country gets into? I believe there is a distinction. Also, are you asking whether or not we would risk death in defence of our countries, or whether or not we would knowingly sacrifice our lives - 100% aforeknowledge that you will die?
If my country was under genuine threat of destruction, I would certainly fight to defend it, thus risking death. I don't know if I would knowingly sacrifice my life - that would probably be a "heat of battle" thing, not a premeditated act. Then again, it all depends on the circumstances. One never really knows how one will react to a given situation until it happens.
Just remember the old lie - "Dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori" [paraphrase of a very bitter poem written by a British WWI soldier]
-Arrian
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April 10, 2002, 11:53
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A resounding 'no'. I am not willing to die for other people, for their greed and imperialist claims, over other people who are pushed into the situation. It is the elite who win, not the common man.
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April 10, 2002, 11:53
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Yes. Dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori. 
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April 10, 2002, 12:09
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Not for my swamp! I want a banana and I want it right now!!! 
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April 10, 2002, 12:16
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A definite no. I am not willing to die for a country or some sick politicians.
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April 10, 2002, 12:18
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No war was ever won by dieing for your country anyway,
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April 10, 2002, 12:20
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Re: No, I'm not.
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
However, I'm fully prepared to make the other bastard die for his country though.
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So basically you want to eat the cake and save it at the same time? It figures... 
Arrian: I´m talking about wether you are prepared to risk your life by protecting your country from real or imagined enemies. Not as much willingly sacrifice your life.
Provost:
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April 10, 2002, 12:24
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Kramat,
In that case, my answer is a qualified "yes." Like I said, I would sign up & fight if the U.S. were under serious threat of destruction (subjective, I know). However, I won't be joining the Army to take part in any lesser (for lack of a better word) war, even if I support its aims.
-Arrian
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April 10, 2002, 12:24
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Originally posted by Provost Harrison
A resounding 'no'. I am not willing to die for other people, for their greed and imperialist claims, over other people who are pushed into the situation. It is the elite who win, not the common man.
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I absolutely agree.
However, if Greece was attacked I'd go even though I disagree strongly.
In such an event, my only wish would be to have lived a as possible full life as I could before going to war and possibly dying there.
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April 10, 2002, 12:27
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countrys only exist in the minds of politicians and fanatics...
I would only die for my family and loved ones !!
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April 10, 2002, 12:30
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Re: Re: No, I'm not.
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Originally posted by Kamrat X
So basically you want to eat the cake and save it at the same time? It figures...
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I'm just following the sage advice of a capable general. 
"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." -- General George Patton
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April 10, 2002, 12:34
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Originally posted by Simon Darkshade
Dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori.
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aaarrggghhh ...
Gas, Gas, quick boys!
An ecstasy of fumbling.
... or something like that, anyway. you can't beat an english secondary school education for tedious WWII poems.
on topic: hmmm, i dunno. i don't even like my country that much. however, since all my friends and family live here (and i would certainly die for them) i would fight if we were ever invaded.
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April 10, 2002, 12:34
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With citizens like Dinodoc, USA has no future.
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April 10, 2002, 12:36
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Dulce et Decorum... was a WWI poem Frustrated Poet. Either by Wilfred Owen or Siegfried Sassoon (I always get those two mixed up).
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April 10, 2002, 12:39
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Originally posted by paiktis22
With citizens like Dinodoc, USA has no future.
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 what? ... somebody with a sense of humour .. oh yeah, that's just terrible, that is.
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April 10, 2002, 12:40
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Originally posted by our_man
Dulce et Decorum... was a WWI poem Frustrated Poet. Either by Wilfred Owen or Siegfried Sassoon (I always get those two mixed up).
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s**t ... yeah i know it was a typo.
btw, it was Wilfred Owen.
that's 1 point each now i think.
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April 10, 2002, 12:43
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People yes, country no.
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April 10, 2002, 12:46
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"Country" is only that that is made up of "people".
Note the differences between;
Prepared to die and Looking to die.
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April 10, 2002, 12:48
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Country is an artificial historically defined boundary surrounding some land ruled by a government *spit* I might fight to protect my friends and family but not some little git from South Central Reading.
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April 10, 2002, 12:49
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Not really.
I am, however, fully prepared to send Wiglaf to die for my country. Too bad he's a DL.
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April 10, 2002, 12:49
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If Saddam lands an amphibious division on Miami Beach, yes I will fight to the death. But don't ask me to go to Iraq and topple his government. Don't even ask me to go "liberate" Kuwait or Saudi Arabia. Saddam hasn't done anything to America other than pose a threat; a threat of a unified, strong, economically powerful Arab nation. I will die to defend my nation but not to defend my nation's hegemony. Peace out.
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April 10, 2002, 12:50
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Frankly I'd prefer not to fight or die at all.
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April 10, 2002, 12:51
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Originally posted by Guynemer
I am, however, fully prepared to send Wiglaf to die for my country.
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Yeah, me too. Sometimes two wrongs do make a right...
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April 10, 2002, 12:52
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I'd be more than willing to die for a good cause, I'd never kill for it though.
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April 10, 2002, 12:52
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No, but it's not that I am not prepared to, it's that I don't want to.
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April 10, 2002, 13:14
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I am, however, fully prepared to send Wiglaf to die for my country. Too bad he's a DL.
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If only we could send DLs into battle. An infinite supply of irritating trolls, and when wave after wave dies off we could just create new ones. With our massive supply of Wiglafs, the US would be unconquerable.
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April 10, 2002, 13:27
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Originally posted by Felch X
If only we could send DLs into battle. An infinite supply of irritating trolls, and when wave after wave dies off we could just create new ones. With our massive supply of Wiglafs, the US would be unconquerable.
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You are right Larvaman, but, we can't all be on the same side on apolyton, so it would be a DL war. The question is, which half is the most irritating. Hehe
Spec.
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