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View Poll Results: Are you prepared to die for your country?
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April 11, 2002, 22:59
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The ObL can be pleased by results of this poll- more then a half of you don't want to sacrifice your lifes for your countries. Shame on you cowards.
"The men who don't ready to die for something don't deserve to live"
M. L. King
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Originally posted by David Floyd
At least you're honest - most people are full of ****, when they say they'de die...oh really? They think they could psychologically handle doing something they KNOW would kill them when they have an option not to. Bullshit! That's against human nature.
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This against coward's nature. The history have a lot of examples how people sacrificed their lifes for their belifs and principles.
P.S. Sava you confirmed once again that you are a brainwashed paranoid. "WW3", "task forces to prevent nukes", "one billion of dead". Sure you are a paranoid or imbicile or something, your brain is hard damaged, do you know about this?
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April 11, 2002, 23:04
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Originally posted by paiktis22
With citizens like Dinodoc, USA has no future.
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True. 
But as long as they have a lot of Arianns, GPs and Sikanders USA have a future.
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April 11, 2002, 23:27
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Of course not! I would never....
::looks at thread I started in OP Forum:::
Oh...I guess I WOULD die for my country!
But I'd much rather live for it.
And to all you people out there who said "No":
Wussies.
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And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worth while, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: "I served in the United States Navy!"
"Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I ****ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective." --Barack Obama
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April 11, 2002, 23:37
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I've been writing in this forum and never bothered to vote...one more Yes.
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April 11, 2002, 23:45
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With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worth while, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: "I served in the United States Navy!"
"Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I ****ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective." --Barack Obama
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April 11, 2002, 23:50
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It's redundant to ask whether I'd die for my country or not, since I'd be willing to die, period. Hopefully not a painful death, but then again, the pain can only be momentary. 
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April 11, 2002, 23:57
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Of course I'm willing to die for my country.
You people would die for other people, but not for a country. People are the country. And people are just as bad as countries, maybe because they make up the countries . I have yet to meet a person as honest as myself. People are scum . I have yet to find someone worth dying for outside of immediate family I grew up with. I have yet to meet anyone with as good of morals as myself. Yes even Speer and his pretend make believe morals couldn't hold up to mine.
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You're tripping over yourself.
First, you say you're willing to die for your country.
Then you say people are the country (which I certainly don't agree with).
Then you say you aren't willing to die for people outside of your family.
But because people are the country, you logically wouldn't be willing to die for your country.
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April 11, 2002, 23:59
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Originally posted by Lonestar
This is for all you Pansies out there.
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God bless the Forum Goons.
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April 11, 2002, 23:59
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Originally posted by loinburger
God bless the Forum Goons.
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Being a fan of Goonies, that means a lot to me.
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With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worth while, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: "I served in the United States Navy!"
"Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I ****ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective." --Barack Obama
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April 12, 2002, 02:42
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Originally posted by Natan
To me, the argument that we owe no love for or loyalty to our country because our freedoms are inherent is like a child who says he has no love for or loyalty to his parents because he has a right to be fed, clothed, and educated.
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April 12, 2002, 02:48
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don't ask me Ramo, I can't explain the words I write  . I was drunk. Yeah that's it. Must explain why I spammed the civ3 general with one of my threads, and got a PCR.
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April 12, 2002, 03:32
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It depends on what it is.
In WW2, then yeah, I'd fight for the US, but for Vietnam... I'm not so sure.
Why didn't you just say prepared to fight for your country rather than die for your country. People just don't want to die, you know?
In war, you have a chance, it isn't like you are marching into machine guns with sticks.
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April 12, 2002, 04:44
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Originally posted by faded glory
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Isn´t that sh itforbrains?
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April 12, 2002, 05:59
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Why didn't you just say prepared to fight for your country rather than die for your country. People just don't want to die, you know?
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Because it's the same. If you are ready to fight for your country, it means that you should be ready to be killed in action.
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April 12, 2002, 06:10
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If you are ready to fight for your country, it means that you should be ready to be killed in action.
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Yes, I agree, but it is not the same. I mean, when someone says are you willing to die for your country... that could mean suicide bombing. That isn't the same as fighting.
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April 12, 2002, 08:20
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I'd like to think I'd sacrifice myself to protect my way of life; but this isn't neccesarily the same as dying for my country. I believe that ideals are more important to protect than the country you were born in - of course the two often coincide, making dying for one like dying for the other.
People that are willing to die for their country without question are no doubt brave, it just strikes me as wrong to do it for no other reason other than the fact that it is the land of your birth. I don't think any of us can imagine sacrificing ourselves to save Saddam's regime had we been born in Iraq.
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April 12, 2002, 08:37
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Because of my technical skills, I'd probably be better in communications than infantry. I would probably join the Air Force (I have a pilot's license). I have always wanted to fly a jet. One of my friends from high school joined the Air National Guard. He gets to fly F-16's. I might go see him during the summer when I'm on break.
The military is great for a reason. Whatever skills you have, they put you in a field where you can do the most good. If you are an idiot, they put you in infantry and teach you how to rush into a hot zone. If you have good strategic skills and are physically adept, they put you in special forces. If you are a sociopath, they put you in intellegence. If you are good at computers, they put you in communications, etc, etc, etc.
GP, the military uses video games to train their soldiers.
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April 12, 2002, 08:39
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Originally posted by our_man
I don't think any of us can imagine sacrificing ourselves to save Saddam's regime had we been born in Iraq.
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Of course you can't imagine this, because you was not born in Iraq. I can asure you that people who were born in Iraq and live there now, think otherwise.
The personality of human is formed by culture, tradition, values, religion, the way of life etc. of country where this men was born and where this men spent his life.
If you are not ready to fight against people who want to destroy those things and if you are not ready to die during this fight, then you are betrayer of your nation. All is very simple.
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April 12, 2002, 08:42
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I don't honestly believe that a large amount of Iraqis will be willing to die to defend Saddam's regime. If I'm wrong however, the U.S. could be in for one hell of a fight when (if) it does attack Iraq.
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April 12, 2002, 08:43
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Originally posted by Sava
The military is great for a reason. Whatever skills you have, they put you in a field where you can do the most good. If you are an idiot, they put you in infantry and teach you how to rush into a hot zone. If you have good strategic skills and are physically adept, they put you in special forces. If you are a sociopath, they put you in intellegence. If you are good at computers, they put you in communications, etc, etc, etc.
GP, the military uses video games to train their soldiers.
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I wish to you a good luck in ifantry service.
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April 12, 2002, 08:51
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Originally posted by our_man
I don't honestly believe that a large amount of Iraqis will be willing to die to defend Saddam's regime.
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I can asure you they will. And mostly they will fight not for Saddam, but for their country, for their values. For them Americans are devils and an American way of life is the devil's way of life. And they will defend their country against agression, I am sure about this.
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If I'm wrong however, the U.S. could be in for one hell of a fight when (if) it does attack Iraq.
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You may bomb it as long as you wish, they can do nothing to stop you. However, when you'll decide to conquer it, you'll find that Iraq's people will not accept your soldiers with open arms as liberators, they will treat you as agressors. And they will fight for freedom of their country, like Vietnamese done when USA invaded Vietnam.
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April 12, 2002, 08:54
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I can asure you they will. And mostly they will fight not for Saddam, but for their country, for their values. For them Americans are devils and an American way of life is the devil's way of life. And they will defend their country against agression, I am sure about this.
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See children... propaganda does work.
Serb, have you even been to America?
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April 12, 2002, 09:05
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See children... propaganda does work.
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Propaganda always works.
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Serb, have you even been to America?
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No, so what?
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Propaganda always works.
No, so what?
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So basically, everything you know about America is what you read/view/hear from mass media. That speaks volumes about your credibility.
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April 12, 2002, 09:18
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So basically, everything you know about America is what you read/view/hear from mass media. That speaks volumes about your credibility.
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Who talks about America here? We've talked about Iraq.
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Most of the people who posted here never were in my country, however they think that they know much more about our history then we are.
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I can asure you they will. And mostly they will fight not for Saddam, but for their country, for their values. For them Americans are devils and an American way of life is the devil's way of life. And they will defend their country against agression, I am sure about this.
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A-m-e-r-i-c-a spells America right?
I have cousins in Moscow... I assume you live in Russia, correct?
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April 12, 2002, 10:05
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Originally posted by markusf
What about the people who droped the a-bomb in japan,
shouldn't they be tried for crimes against humanity? Or people behind US foriegn policy that kills millions?
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Oh jeezus. What a shitforbrains statement. 
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Oh jeezus. What a shitforbrains statement.
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heheh we can agree on some things Slowwhand...
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April 9, 1942, the infamous "Death March" 6 days, 90 miles, began at the Mariveles terminating at Camp O'Donnell and later moved to Camp Cabanatuan.
According to Japanese Plans these P.O.W's were to be moved by foot, carrying their own rations to the border of Bataan and Pampango.
The main stage of the Death March was set at Mariveles, at the southern tip of Bataan Peninsula.
Troops started to march in a long column on a dusty road without food and water.
For many of the Bloody, frail men, this was the last march.
One man fell from exhaustion and was then flatten by a tank, as all the other troops witnessed this horrible action, other soldiers were hit by Japanese trucks passing by.
The P.O.W's were forced to stand next to a fresh stream but weren't allowed to drink from it, even though they were exhausted and dehydrated , after a while one soldier could not take it any more, he ran to the stream and fell in, face first, to drink. Immediately one of the Japanese guards ran over, pulled his sword out and cut his head off..
A great many men reached the end of their endurance. The dropouts became numerous. They fell on the roadside, some making no effort to rise. Groaning and weeping, some succeeded while others fell back helplessly.
As the march continued, the diseased, starving men staggered up the dusty road, prodded by the Japanese guards to keep moving. As one soldier was dying, he cried for water. He died on the dusty road. The heat of the day was so intense that they were half crazy from thirst. They arrived at a small stream that was contaminated with filthy water, a bloated corpse filled with maggots, this filthy stream the P.O.W's were allowed to drink from , as the Japanese guards laughed at them.
Death March ended after 6 days, where the P.O.W's boarded a train to the Death Camp.
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