Mark please fix second page o' smilies

TCO · April 11, 2002, 12:43

Problem #1: page takes forever to load

Problem #2: some people don't see/think about second page smilies.

Suggestion: Put all smilies in a bigger box in the regular thread reply window.

Corrolary: This will help the "beaver" smiley.

Gramphos · April 11, 2002, 14:23

Who uses the smiliebars anyway? Just write the code for the smilies, and dsable the bar in the control panel.

Zopperoni · April 11, 2002, 14:41

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Originally posted by Gramphos

Who uses the smiliebars anyway? Just write the code for the smilies, and dsable the bar in the control panel.

I do

...sometimes.

But GP is right, I forget we have those new smilies, because I never look at the second page.

Gramphos · April 11, 2002, 15:05

The smilies just slows down the reply-page, they were the first thing I disabled (together with the vB-code bar)

ixnay · April 11, 2002, 15:27

I don't really remember a lot of the smilies codes, so I use the sidebar most of the time...but I do forget about the 13 smilies not shown.

Gramphos · April 11, 2002, 15:43

Well, I'm happy to have a small reply page It loads fast, and I can have it in a small window.

But of cource, I forget some simlies I don't use often, but in other hands I look on the smilie page now and then when there are no interesting posts to read

ixnay · April 12, 2002, 00:05

I never use the vB code bar...it would be nice if I could get rid of that and keep the smilies bar...

Dis · April 12, 2002, 01:59

how in the hell can I remember the codes for those obscure smilies?

MarkG · April 12, 2002, 04:44

i dont see a problem...

Gramphos · April 12, 2002, 11:20

You just need to remember the code you use often, the other you can look up. I made a calculation on it, and the time I save from not loading all the smilies and the vB-bar when replying makes is bigger then the time it takes to look up a smuiliecode oce every ten posts (which is more then I do)

TCO · April 12, 2002, 13:07

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Originally posted by MarkG
i dont see a problem...

OK, Mark.

To see slow loading, try loading second page of smilies and time the load.

To see ignorance of second page, just read the replies to this thread.

Now you too can see.

MarkG · April 12, 2002, 13:12

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To see slow loading, try loading second page of smilies and time the load

so you want to add that loading time to the main reply page

?

TCO · April 12, 2002, 13:44

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Originally posted by MarkG

Quote:

To see slow loading, try loading second page of smilies and time the load

so you want to add that loading time to the main reply page

?

No. I hope you can figure out a way to do it without significant load time. Perhaps the load is based on something different about the second page of smilies. First page loads quickly even though it has 30 (!) smilies.

Gramphos · April 12, 2002, 13:57

Can yuo put the smilies in an IFRAME

-Jrabbit · April 12, 2002, 14:32

1. If you take the smilIes off the reply page, then replace them with prominent signage, everyone gets faster load times (which IMHO as a user, is this site's biggest problem), and those who want smilIes are one click away. That click could then reveal all available smilIes, perhaps including some of the new ones that Stefu has been working on.

Then again...

2. Smilies are used all the time around here, whereas regarding VB code doesn't seem to be in common use. So maybe that's the thing that should go.

3. Maybe some of the newer smilies could be "promoted" to the main page and replace some of the less-used models currently shown there. (The interminable variations on "banned" come to mind... And most of the red ones look the same.).

4. A more prominent "MORE" link might be helpful in keeping some of these poor, underemployed smileys off the dole.

5. The IFRAME is a non-compatible tag. Fine in IE, but it breaks in Netscape and Mozilla.

DON'T USE FRAMES!! FRAMES ARE EVIL!!!

Gramphos · April 12, 2002, 14:47

I agree that frames are bad... but as I have it disabled any way it wouldn't affect me

... and popups are worse.

Grrr · April 13, 2002, 03:51

Well I think that second page should be linked from the quick reply box.

The Mad Monk · April 13, 2002, 16:59

I think that the second page smilies load slower because most of them are animated, whereas most of the front page smilies are not.

Skanky Burns · April 13, 2002, 19:50

I agree with Grrr!!

A link in the quick reply would help those who don't memorise the smilie codes, and doesn't slow down load times for those who do memorise the smilie codes or don't actually use them.

Dis · April 16, 2002, 04:10

how about we display the code for the smilies (which appears at the bottome of internet explorer when you hover the mouse over the smilie face). The code will then be a link to place the smilie in the text.

Having just text for smilies will negate the graphics and load time associated with it. The smilies would only show up in the post itself.

We can determine what smilie is which from the words inside the :'s.

TCO · April 16, 2002, 11:55

Quote:

Originally posted by Dissident
how about we display the code for the smilies (which appears at the bottome of internet explorer when you hover the mouse over the smilie face). The code will then be a link to place the smilie in the text.

Having just text for smilies will negate the graphics and load time associated with it. The smilies would only show up in the post itself.

We can determine what smilie is which from the words inside the :'s.

GREAT IDEA!!!

Markos think for more than .9x seconds on this.

Scouse Gits · April 16, 2002, 15:37

Of course the load speed of the reply page is less important now that we have the Quick Reply window

SG[1]

Dis · April 16, 2002, 15:53

I forgot about the quick reply window. This is my first time trying it out. I'm assuming you can use smilies with it if you know the code.

Grrr · April 16, 2002, 16:19

The point is that most smilies are loaded in the thread anyway, so it doesn't really matter about the graphics loading time, it is only the html which is HUGE.

Grrr · April 17, 2002, 00:12

Just print the Smilies page out, and keep it next to the computer, you'll have a nice list of all the codes.

notyoueither · April 17, 2002, 00:53

You'll are on Apolyton too much!

Ohhhh, I can't wait till my printer warms up. Hooo boy ohhh boy.