Beyond Alpha Centauri:::: Discussion Thread 4

[Mellian]

went back to check the map and the names History give to the Corp sector systems... two Meraks? isn't one called Merek and controlled by the Gaians? what about the Agyptii system...a binary? if so, considered one system like Alpha Centauri and also third closest, which TAF as an attack force currently there.... unless the systems are different and located at differently on the z-axis.

-Mellian

[Frankychan]

Sprayber-Just got back from looking at Sparta Prime's website and I love the Spartan Quotes! None mention the Hive though.........I was thinking of expanding the idea History Guy had about Hive propaganda shows and posting them on my site. But that's for another time. Good job! I especially like:

"If brute force doesn't solve your problem, you're not using enough." - Admiral Henry Bishop, conversation with Admiral Harrison: Morgan Interstellar.

History Guy- Like the Morganite view of the battle! I'm disheartened that we could not have some Morganite citizens to educate in the ways of the Hive. It is a travesty!!!!

Mellian- Ya know, I'm getting to like the EC more and more and liking the TA less and less!

[Frankychan]

Centauri- Well, if you want to talk to someone, you should talk to Sprayber if anything.

As for data, there's the BAC datalinks thread somewhere if you can dig it up...I'll bump it for you. To know the current state of affairs you might want to read the story from the beginning. In fact, I think you should. If you have questions about a certain thing about any faction, just PM that factions author!

I would love to answer/educate you and the Mars Combine on the benefits of allying with the Hive Empire!

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by frankychan
Sprayber-Just got back from looking at Sparta Prime's website and I love the Spartan Quotes! None mention the Hive though.........I was thinking of expanding the idea History Guy had about Hive propaganda shows and posting them on my site. But that's for another time. Good job! I especially like:

There are some Hive quotes comming. I just got a little tired while i was doing them and laid down.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Centauri18
So who do I talk to about getting started? I hardly know any of the back story, and, well... it would be helpful to know what's happened in this story. Maybe I just might need someone to collaborate with on this.

If your taking Mars, they you have Cybergod, Kass and Mellian to ask questions to and work with. I try and stay out of Sol affairs since I do represent the Spartan Federation. If want an idependent planet elsewhere then send me a PM and we can get you located.

[Kassiopeia]

I think LMP got the Mars stuff pretty well covered. Just remember to read the Terran histories, I think an accepted one from the Earth POV can be found here.

[Mellian]

Kass, the link doesn't seem to be working much.... i thought the terran history was in the datalinks

-Mellian

[Kassiopeia]

The link works fine for me.
I am not sure of the Terran History within the datalinks; have you posted it there? Is it the Revision 3, the last version, we agreed upon? My link's Revision 4 only has some bolding included, nothing contextual.

[History Guy]

LMP-- Umm, yes, actually. The Novans are going to be in a very tricky position in this system. Not only is a whole transport full of fighters in the area, but there is also the approaching Soldiers of God mercenaries. If the Novans try anything they'll be in pretty bad shape.

What bits should I edit?

Umm...you are right! There are too Meraks! Weird, ain't it? I'll change the name. The Aegyptii are two seperated systems that follow different orbits.

Centauri 18

The story of Beyond Alpha Centauri started in late 2700, and it is now early 2701 in the story. Many Chiron factions such as the Gaians, the Spartans, the Morganites, the Drones, the University, and the Hive have left Chiron, building up empires in space. The Earthers (Terrans) have built up an empire of their own. There has been peace since the end of the wars with the aliens known as the Bree, but that peace has been violently shattered by the space battle above Morganite Planet Aristophanes (Pollux C). No one is quite sure as to who fired the first shot in the action, the Morganite supply ship, or the supply ship of the rival company, Terra's Interplanetary Enterprises. Both ships are destroyed. In the aftermath, Morgan sends emissaries to speak to InEn officials on the Earth's moon, but that too becomes disastrous, the InEn troops attack the dignitaries, who barely make it back to Morgan space. Morgan decides to attack the InEn holdings at Callisto, and takes that moon, but his men are forced to withdraw due to the counterattack by the Earth Coalition. In the meantime, the Earth colony on Titan (a moon of Saturn) secedes from the Coalition with Rhea, forming the Saturn Kingdom. The Earther's attempts to bring the Kingdom back into the Coalition are bungled, to say the least. There is now peace between the two governments. Morgan recognizes the Saturnians diplomatically, and on the eve of war a treaty is signed. It has to be scrapped when the war with Terra breaks out. Morgan attacks distant Capella, a Terran colony, taking the whole system with the help of the Believer mercenaries. In response, Terra attacks Morganite holdings in the Corporate Sector...Phew!

Franky-- Tis a reeeeeeal shame, ain't it?

[History Guy]

Cybergod, Gen. Tacticus, and Silence:

I don't believe we've heard from you since Apolyton's move. You guys out there??

[Mellian]

Originally posted by History Guy
LMP-- Umm, yes, actually. The Novans are going to be in a very tricky position in this system. Not only is a whole transport full of fighters in the area, but there is also the approaching Soldiers of God mercenaries. If the Novans try anything they'll be in pretty bad shape.

Yes, Approaching, but they won't get there by the time the battles finish.... SoD is all the way at Capella and Pollux/Castor... so like 20 lightyears or so from the Corperate sector, meaning, two days or so FTL travel. The TA attacks suppose to be a blitzkrieg The battle is still currently during a period of a day....where things are happening quickly diplomaticly and so on.

Anyway, the Morganites won't exactly know of Kerensky's offer to the pirates.... except that TAF ships is contacting the pirate ships in the three systems that is being attacked. Can't always intercept comm signals you know

Other then that, i do expect the Novans to lose SOME ships once they start desserting their positions/ take control of the stations and so on they are to defend in the three systems being attacked. They may lose some more ships once they start getting hunted down by Morganite and so on ships, but the Pirates is pretty good at hiding, and helps if they are nomads Heck, the Novans may take that to their advantage and lead the ships that are hunting them somewhere and ambush them. Novans will end up seeking Kane's help, and start being active within Kane's bloc clans and data angels. As for covertly hunting them down, it will be hard in this area as well... as they will be facing Data Angels, which their whole faction is into espionage and one big Intelligence network.

What bits should I edit?

For example, TA forces won't be bombarding Samnos as was previously said in my post, which i edited it.... especially if the Morganites there are surrendering.

Umm...you are right! There are too Meraks! Weird, ain't it? I'll change the name. The Aegyptii are two seperated systems that follow different orbits.

Okay, there is Aegyptii A and B....

The story of Beyond Alpha Centauri started in late 2700, and it is now early 2701 in the story.

early 2701? I say mid-late 2701 by now....

The Earthers (Terrans) have built up an empire of their own.

different factions within Sol as emerged, and formed the Terran Alliance, which as been around for nearly two centuries. TA as its own seperate joint military organization, the TAF currently lead by Fleet Admiral Kerensky. TAF acts like a seperate faction within TA.

InEn was more like a Corporate Nation like the morganites, and was a member within the Terran Alliance... they are NOW being merged into the Terran Alliance itself. TAF is currently got some InEn ships to help out with the attacks, heavily supervised by the TAF of course....none in Cyclanid thought.

Morgan decides to attack the InEn holdings at Callisto, and takes that moon, but his men are forced to withdraw due to the counterattack by the Earth Coalition

Without considering the diplomatic option . The counterattack was lead by the TAF forces, but the EC forces as helped as well.
just a note: players here as the bad evil habit of ignorig the TAF and TA in general, making it seem it is the Earth Coalition that runs the whole show, which they are not.

-Mellian

[Cybergod]

History - I am here, I am here... Hey! Where's a reply to our kind gesture of friendship!?

Kass - How dare you! Well, for all you know, the Brotherhood of Sol might be the thing we'll be opting for next... he he he (jokes)

Centauri - Welcome! I'd be very much pleased to have Martians in the thread! Especially when a couple of my main characters actually originate from Mars (see Nicholas Popullos, Anita Delitz and the other guy from Mars, Peter Jovovic

Mellian - do you think that Nicholas' son should be born soon? This is crutial to my story, please reply quickly...

[Centauri18]

Wow, I just read the Earth History, and it's pretty interesting. So I take it Mars had a Socialist revolution sometime in the twenty-third century? Very interestingLike I said before, the Red Planet in more ways than one.
As for getting started on Mars, I'm willing to get started on a cohesive storyline any time you guys are.

[Sprayber]

Centauri18: My suggestion is to make out a list of characters to start out with. Doesn't have to be all the charcters you will ever use, just list the important ones like Military figures and civilian leaders. Determine specifics of your goverment and let your fellow Solarians know. (Everyone like that term Solarians. I just made it up ) From there you can decide if you want to start big or slowly build your faction. One possible angle you could use is with you and Soveregin(University). He has been interested in increasing contact with the Terrans. It might be good to go through the Combine first. Or start out with dealings with the Saturn Government (Cybergod). I would offer to do it with the Spartans but we are in kind of a mess with your fellow Solarians and I don't know if they would like Spartan "assests" in the Sol system.


Attention
For those thinking about using Spartan characters go on over to this page and read up on Spartan Ranks and what they are responsible for. It's just to provide a guide to what each position is responsible for.

http://www.geocities.com/kessel74/SpartanRanks.html

[Silence]

Ah been busy planning stuff, finals are approaching and I was down with the flu for a while

sorry to miss so much,

[GeneralTacticus]

Still here. Been working on the next bit of the Cadre civil war, but haven't gotten very far yet.

[Frankychan]

Posting coming up dealing with Yang's reaction to Samnos and the Spartan prescence. Will have message to Lord Ian and Colonel Kessel as well.

History Guy-good post. It is a shame that Nwabudike hasn't seen the light of Ascetic Virtues yet....but I think he might have to eventually.

[Frankychan]

Bippol's fleet will be headed toward system LP 658-2. This should prove interesting. I highly doubt the fleet will arrive before the Protectorate ships get there though, but this way Hive command will learn of the attack by Bippol's ships.

[Frankychan]

Talk about spam!

Lonestar-Like your post! Especially where you included Commander Wilcox in it...even though it was just a "bit-part" and he gets fragged.

Your communique w/Morgan is also on the button. I don't know when Bippol's ships will get to the system, but it should prove interesting when they do.

PM me with your ideas on how to proceed next....since Bippol and Hive command will find out it was a Protectorate attack when the Expeditionary Fleet arrives.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by frankychan
Talk about spam!

Lonestar-Like your post! Especially where you included Commander Wilcox in it...even though it was just a "bit-part" and he gets fragged.

Your communique w/Morgan is also on the button. I don't know when Bippol's ships will get to the system, but it should prove interesting when they do.

PM me with your ideas on how to proceed next....since Bippol and Hive command will find out it was a Protectorate attack when the Expeditionary Fleet arrives.

Boy, that "How is your wife fareing" comment is a bit below the belt, even for Yang, isn't it?

Well, the Protectorate squadron will be long gone when Bippol's ships arrive. Of course, even without evidence, Yang would have to be blind and deaf to not know the Protectorate is behind the attack.

I'll let you decide how to handle Yang's response. As you said, you don't want an all out war right now with us, and certainly we don't. (although Ian is confident the Protectorate would come out better. )I'll let you post the response. Bear in mind, however, that there are over 100 Capital ships in the Roving system, so and attack there (or anywhere in the Protectorate) would be difficult, at best.

[Mellian]

Added Joe Nova's reply to Kerensky's message in the ooops post.

-Mellian

[History Guy]

early 2701? I say mid-late 2701 by now....

Now wait, if Capella fell in January 2701, then only about three months will have passed by at most!

As for the Pirates, they'll be in bad shape if they try anything. The orbital platforms in the area are trained on any thing coming at them, and they don't trust the Novans. Morgan got them because they were cheap and they could move easily to the Corporate Sector, whereas the Soldiers of God wouldn't get there in time. Also, Morgan's fleets around those stations are actually getting bigger, and so Nova will have a lot to contend with if he wants those stations.

Cyber-- Uh...it's...uh...I'll work on it!

That's OK, Silence. Flu is a nasty thing! You guys will be in the Aegyptii region soon. As soon as Aegyptii A falls, the Terrans will stop their advance and listen to us. The only thing to do will to mop up the Novans, pretending that we don't know they've gone with Terra...

Franky-- The Ascetic Virtues? Aaaag! Nwab will never give in to power-hungry bean-heads like Yang!

Hey, Morgan will be sending you a message soon, Franky...

By the way, when will you start blowing up Protectorate ships? I mean, up to know they've been winning everything. Pretty soon, I'd like to see them lose something for a change...

[Sprayber]

Franky From the post, I hope you don't think that Kessel thinks the Hive is weak, he is concerned but he is playing it cool for now.

History Guy I guess the comm link with get there after you get it from Lonestar. But maybe it will reinforce the idea of Sparta is sharing information. That post was assuming that Sparta has been informed about the Protectorate, if only in vague terms. Kessel was just sowing a little discord Yangs way.

[History Guy]

I think it's time for the Hive to show how powerful it is, don't you? Now that the Protectorate has gone and done it, it doesn't look like Yang is going to sit around and take the diplomatic method, either...

Sprayber-- Thanks anyway. In my next post...and it'll come soon to a thread near you...will be so boring you will fall over dead after reading it! Well...

The plan has four transmissions in it! One to good ol' Queen M. of You Know Where. Morgan is just going to express his gratitude. Second goes to good old Colonel K. of S.F., telling him that we appreciated the gesture, and we will inform him of our new pals the evil fascist Protectorate! (expectorates on the ground) Then, we'll talk to Lord Ian himself! (another wad of spittle) Yes, well just say how happy we are that we are getting on so well...Finally, the big one...Morgan will contact Chairman...cough...Emperor Yang of the Hive!! (Ack! Phoooey!)

And, to lighten it up, I'll have a little bit concerning the aftermath of the fall of Samnos as seen through the eyes of a certain space pilot and his alien lieutenant.

[Mellian]

As for the Pirates, they'll be in bad shape if they try anything. The orbital platforms in the area are trained on any thing coming at them, and they don't trust the Novans. Morgan got them because they were cheap and they could move easily to the Corporate Sector, whereas the Soldiers of God wouldn't get there in time. Also, Morgan's fleets around those stations are actually getting bigger, and so Nova will have a lot to contend with if he wants those stations.

First of all, even if there is no trust, they are not exactly expecting the Pirates to start attacking them and try to control the stations. Second, Novans are not dumb and pirates are known to use unconventional tactics and means...like how they took over that small Drone convoy . Third, the pirates in the systems being attacked will have TA support...and the pirates in the other systems not being attacked will simply FTL out of there, alteast a short jump to get out of weapons range..... Of course the Pirates will have some losses, but they do have some advantages... like surprise and already in weapons range....

Hey, there must be a reason why the Pirates seem to survive this long, despite several attempts in the past by different factions to completly eliminate them They space Survivalists.

The only thing to do will to mop up the Novans, pretending that we don't know they've gone with Terra...

They won't be easy to mop up...sure they will be outnumbered, out size, and outgun the Novans....but they generally focus in other ways.... I suggest you let me do a post for Novans actions before reacting to it....

-Mellian

[Mellian]

Sprayber, when will you reply to Kerensky? I have edited the message sent to kessel before just to say.

-Mellian

[Sprayber]

Sorry about that. I posted the reply. I hope you understand that Kessel is bending over backwards trying to get peace. I suspect that turning him down will make him quite un responsive in the future.


And as per standard procedure, he included the standard bashing of the hive.

[History Guy]

Sprayber

LMP-- OK. Morgan will be ticked by any sign of betrayal, but he won't attack the Novans if they simply turn around and run. If they make an attack, Morgan will react. His intelligence is his best asset, and with his intelligence he can, and probably will get to Nova at some time or another. I'll wait for you to post before I have Morgan react in any way.

If the Novans fire a single shot, the orbital platforms won't be so surprised that they'll just sit there waiting. They are on full alert. It's true that they are expecting to roast some Terrans, but they'd just as well roast some Pirates, and they could do it just as easily. Your guys will get away even if they do fire a shot, but a good number of them will be whipped if they try anything fancy!

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by History Guy
I think it's time for the Hive to show how powerful it is, don't you? Now that the Protectorate has gone and done it, it doesn't look like Yang is going to sit around and take the diplomatic method, either...

Sprayber-- Thanks anyway. In my next post...and it'll come soon to a thread near you...will be so boring you will fall over dead after reading it! Well...

The plan has four transmissions in it! One to good ol' Queen M. of You Know Where. Morgan is just going to express his gratitude. Second goes to good old Colonel K. of S.F., telling him that we appreciated the gesture, and we will inform him of our new pals the evil fascist Protectorate! (expectorates on the ground) Then, we'll talk to Lord Ian himself! (another wad of spittle) Yes, well just say how happy we are that we are getting on so well...Finally, the big one...Morgan will contact Chairman...cough...Emperor Yang of the Hive!! (Ack! Phoooey!)

Wasn't it Churchhill that said that if Hitler invaded hell, he would at least make a favorable speech in parliment in Satan's behalf. Sparta will look very carefully towards this new power. Maybe in the end Sparta will simply stand and watch the carnage with a smile on her face.

I started to have Kessel start the message calling him chairman yang instead of emperor.

[Sprayber]

Just a quick comment on Franky's page. You guys have to see The Emperors Rule's as laid down by "Peter" link at the bottome of the first page if you havent already. I laughed my ass off at a lot of them.

http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html