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Old April 20, 2002, 20:48   #1
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Democratic Despot?
hey all, i know i don't really hang around the democratic game section and whatnot, but i wanted to start a civ3 democratic game before but we decdided to wait a bit (endless patches that completely change the game, etc).

anyway, i was just wondering if the democratic games should really be democratic all the time. i was thinking that the government of the civ would have a bearing on the physical (real) world behind it.

for example, if you were in a democracy, the game would work as it does now. if you were in a monarchy, one person would have absolute rule but could appoint advisors of his own accord. etc.

i think that such a system would make the game a lot more fun, having a president getting elected and then being asked to be called Comrade... i might even run if i could do that
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Old April 20, 2002, 22:06   #2
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so the leader would be elected but nothing else would have to be democratic. I'm not saying I would support that, but here are my suggestions:
despotism-prez rules all
monarchy-prez appoints advisors who don't have to ask people stuff
republic-prez and advisors elected, but advisors can still ignore people
democracy-everyone elected and leaders must consult people
communism-prez appoints, needs ratification of actions from scared-to-death advisors
fundamentalism-prez renamed god, has total control over both the game and the people's lives
anarchy-prez has no power, anyone can obtain the game and play a few turns then put it back (like an SG)
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Old April 20, 2002, 23:07   #3
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exactly. i believe such a system would be quite funny / realistic.

imagine being elected to a Despotism, but wanting to be completely Democratic. You'd have to go through the anarchist period, and lose 6 turns of your pesidency!
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Old April 21, 2002, 00:22   #4
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That would be pretty entertaining...I'd play a civ3 or 2 democratic game like that.
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exactly. i believe such a system would be quite funny / realistic.

imagine being elected to a Despotism, but wanting to be completely Democratic. You'd have to go through the anarchist period, and lose 6 turns of your pesidency!
or just do it in time with the Oedo years and not miss a turn
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or you get a despot that add a new rule==> no more ellections and renames himself to
"Princeps perpetuum"

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Until the military "accidentally" shoots the despot, of course...
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Until the military "accidentally" shoots the despot, of course...
and then you get a new despot that needs to be shot
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Old April 21, 2002, 19:40   #9
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Or the Central American way - the Despot emigrates to Tonga with the Treasury - hmmmm.....
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Jokes aside, if you play as a despot - paying little heed to the public - you will lose your public and thus the game. You will need to include them in the game somehow for it to work.
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Yes, while we are playing the game in a democratic style, it does not work very well if we try and match the other forms of governments the game allows.
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