Whats the best patch to use?

Civfan · April 30, 2002, 17:35

Ok I seen patch 1.21 and so far its slowed the turns abit, doesn't show all the players in the diplomacy screen that i've discovered and this active player thing doesn't seem to work right. Can't add new units. So seems its not the patch to use.

Patch 1.17 i've heard theres major problems from it.

How about patch 1.16?

Maybe its best not to use any patches.

Damn not sure what to do.

One thing is for sure. Reinstall CIV2. I can't believe how a dissapointment this CIV3 is.

CIV3 is a disapointment to this community and turn based games. What a Farse.

Once known as Civfan........................
Signing off..........

planetfall · April 30, 2002, 18:20

Forget 1.17.

1.16 is fair.

Base install, unpatch is not good.

If using mods, use 1.16f. if not using mods, use 1.21. I have heard 1.21 may be problem with mods as all graphics are assigned but have not played with mods myself. Depending on the severity of the mods, the ability to control corruption is a nice add to 1.21.

I have been running 1.21 since it came out and have had no slowness issues.

Diplomacy screen, all but 1.21 will only show 8 players. 1.21 is supposed to show more than 8, but I have never played with that many players.

I would agree the base game and default settings make for a disappointing game, but I can play reasonable games after using the editor. Still would like to see more range for aircraft, you know something between 8 tiles and infinite, but not there yet. I would like to have seen manhattan be a small wonder to emulate the world of present, some have nukes and most do not. Alas, firaxis is unwilling to tackle the recoding required to make that happen.

Don't know about civ2, civ3 is the first civ game I have played.

Of course you can always play alpha centurai.

Coracle · April 30, 2002, 18:43

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Originally posted by planetfall
Don't know about civ2, civ3 is the first civ game I have played.

Of course you can always play alpha centurai.

PLAY CIV 2!!! Find out how much FUN you can have.

BTW, I vote for 1.21 - best of a bad lot.

Tuberski · April 30, 2002, 18:49

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Originally posted by Coracle

PLAY CIV 2!!! Find out how much FUN you can have.

BTW, I vote for 1.21 - best of a bad lot.

You do know that there is a chance he won't like CIV 2.

notyoueither · April 30, 2002, 18:56

You can add units with C3MT current version. It's available in the Files forum.

And yes. 1.21 is much better, so far.

planetfall · April 30, 2002, 18:56

why play civ2?
no corruption slider
no tech race
no tech devaluation
no new firaxis patchs
no hope for improvement
What's there to recommend it. I have the disk but not motivated to install it.

Not likely will play civ2, more likely to pick up alpha centurai. Weird play characters, this is from a sf fan, but supposed to be a fanastic game if want a challenging game.

Most of the time I am just looking for an interesting game, and after 1.21 civ3 gets that way. How long it will last is hard to tell. If it hangs out too long it is either go back to a simple game you can finish in a decent chunck of time, Axis and Allies, or go for some other simulation game.

Coracle · April 30, 2002, 19:03

Civ 2 is a MAJOR CLASSIC in computer war gaming history.

It remains much moe fun than Civ 3, and you can even build scenarios, and you have a cheat mode. You have real diplomats, real spying, a cruiser unit, more techs, and no stupid Culture Flipping, no AI settler land-grabbing or other crap as in Civ 3.

Civ 2 rules. Forever.

Tuberski · April 30, 2002, 19:18

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Originally posted by Coracle
Civ 2 is a MAJOR CLASSIC in computer war gaming history.

It remains much moe fun than Civ 3, and you can even build scenarios, and you have a cheat mode. You have real diplomats, real spying, a cruiser unit, more techs, and no stupid Culture Flipping, no AI settler land-grabbing or other crap as in Civ 3.

Civ 2 rules. Forever.

Civ 2 is a sequel to CIV, it's basically a prettied up version. Very little differences, except HP and firepower.

CIVILIZATION is the classic. Civ 2 is the sequel.

AJ Corp. The FAIR · April 30, 2002, 19:36

Whats the best patch to use?

Answer:

Always the last.

AJ

asleepathewheel · April 30, 2002, 19:40

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Originally posted by Coracle
Civ 2 is a MAJOR CLASSIC in computer war gaming history.

It remains much moe fun than Civ 3, and you can even build scenarios, and you have a cheat mode.

You seem to care so much about this cheat mode.

It was easier to play civ2 when you had that safety net, eh?

player1 · April 30, 2002, 19:55

Use 1.21f, turn off autosave.

ChaotikVisions · April 30, 2002, 21:14

Use 1.21f, works great. Civ2 may be a classic, or Civilization even more of a classic, but if I had played Civ3 before playing those, I wouldn't have really liked them. Sure, a few features they had that Civ3 didn't i'd like, but general gameplay wouldn't be the same, Civ3 is better then Civ1 and Civ2. :P And whats with all these people coming on, asking for opinions, then deciding to switch back to Civ2 all in the same post? Don't understand the people who don't play the game because they don't like it but come here to tell us bad it is, like we're missing it by liking it ourselves.(speaking for those who do like it) But bah, anyway..

Grrr · May 1, 2002, 00:23

1.21f, especially on faster computers.

Flanker · May 1, 2002, 06:25

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Civ 2 is a MAJOR CLASSIC in computer war gaming history.

Civilization is not a war game. Just if you happend to be a warmonger perhaps.

danimal · May 1, 2002, 12:09

Play Patch 1.51f..it is due out in three months. It will certainly be the best............not!

ACooper · May 1, 2002, 13:46

Whatever makes you happy (1.21 here), but please don't whine.

danimal · May 1, 2002, 14:52

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Originally posted by ACooper
Whatever makes you happy (1.21 here), but please don't whine.

I just don't whine...I usually Chardonnay or at least Cabernet Sauvignon. Geesh!!

dunk · May 1, 2002, 16:37

1.21 is good. It does slow it down a bit, but you can deactivate the auto-save and it speeds back up.

Ignore Coracle, he has nothing useful to say.

Andrew Cory · May 1, 2002, 19:19

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Originally posted by Coracle
Civ 2 is a MAJOR CLASSIC in computer war gaming history.

It remains much moe fun than Civ 3, and you can even build scenarios, and you have a cheat mode. You have real diplomats, real spying, a cruiser unit, more techs, and no stupid Culture Flipping, no AI settler land-grabbing or other crap as in Civ 3.

Civ 2 rules. Forever.

I think I begin to see the source of your issue. You want a war game. Civ3 is a game where one builds a _civilization_. Period. War is a part of that, and so is culture. The great irony is that this whole time I thought you were complaining that cities were flipping _to you_. Now I see that you cannot play the game well enough to prevent cities from leaving your empire...

It would take a really low person to point out that this actualy moddels real life quite well. A civilization that is so bent on conquest that it neglects the culture of its people should not be surpized when the people leave the empire. Only a compleat jerk would point out here that this is exactly what happened to Sparta as a result of Epaminodas marching through their territory, or more recently, the soviet union colapsing and Georgia, Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Lithiwania, Chechnia, etc. That person would also be a jerk to mention that this is just what happened to America: It was producing one hell of a lot of money, and little of it was getting back to England (corruption). Their (american) culture was also being pulled by other cultural factors, and flipped...

But again, I am not jerk enough to point this out...

Tingkai · May 2, 2002, 12:45

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Originally posted by dunk999
1.21 is good. It does slow it down a bit, but you can deactivate the auto-save and it speeds back up.

Ignore Coracle, he has nothing useful to say.

Do you mean back to same speed as 1.17 with auto-save off or the same speed as 1.17 with auto-save on? Or is it just slower than 1.17 period?