Multi-player "pay per play"

TCO · May 5, 2002, 05:25

Anybody think we will get some sort of dedicated server with subscription based MP on it?

I raised this a while ago and nobody listened to me (in the old Civ3 fora). Maybe with all we've seen, it's a little easier to believe this might happen?

Alexander's Horse · May 5, 2002, 05:26

If "we" do, noone will play it.

TCO · May 5, 2002, 05:29

Are there any other MP based games with subscription? Perhaps making good money? Just curious. I'm not a gamer. But I figure that companies would try to Hoover out more money from player's pockets by doing this...

notyoueither · May 5, 2002, 05:31

I guess the likely suspects have figured out that mods aren't paying too much attention to the newer forums yet

Alexander's Horse · May 5, 2002, 05:32

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Originally posted by GP
I'm not a gamer.

WTF ARE YOU DOING HERE THEN

TCO · May 5, 2002, 05:32

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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
If "we" do, noone will play it.

Maybe we is "me"? What about others? looking at it dispassionaately. And regardless, do you think they might try it?

TCO · May 5, 2002, 05:35

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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse

WTF ARE YOU DOING HERE THEN

guess...

Well...I've OCCed back in the day...

Adagio · May 5, 2002, 05:35

I they do try to make more money that way, then I believe I dont buy the XP

TCO · May 5, 2002, 05:37

Everybody called me crazy when I trolled out that Firaxis wouldn't have MP in Civ3, and that happened...

Wrt MOO3, I said the game looked to have project management issues (several months ago). Now we have the Prject manager fired and a huge shift in game design plan.

Adagio · May 5, 2002, 05:41

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Originally posted by GP
Everybody called me crazy when I trolled out that Firaxis wouldn't have MP in Civ3, and that happened...

Not me...Why should they change the standards of the Civ series, they didn't have MP in Civ(1) or Civ2, so why should they have it in Civ3

Alexander's Horse · May 5, 2002, 06:03

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Originally posted by GP

guess...

Oh - postcount

Inverse Icarus · May 5, 2002, 13:26

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Originally posted by GP
Anybody think we will get some sort of dedicated server with subscription based MP on it?

I raised this a while ago and nobody listened to me (in the old Civ3 fora). Maybe with all we've seen, it's a little easier to believe this might happen?

i'd see a bnetd-esque project sprung up withing a week.

zulu9812 · May 5, 2002, 14:04

Better not be pay-per-play. If it is, I ain't paying or playing. The multi-player had better not be internet-only, LAN games with friends is what i'd be looking for.

asleepathewheel · May 5, 2002, 14:08

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Originally posted by GP
Are there any other MP based games with subscription?

Haven't you heard of Everquest? Insanely popular, insanely addictive and in a few cases deadly. Plus i've heard that the "country" of EQ's per capita income is in the top hundred in the world. Ebay sales of weapons and characters.

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Originally posted by GP
I'm not a gamer.

duly noted.

TCO · May 5, 2002, 15:59

I may not be a gamer...but I can see how pay per play would pay...

I pay 25 a month for AOL and spend 50% of on-line time on poly. Figure how much that would add up to if Poly captured it.

If this thing comes out to be a subscription service, I will run around saying "I told you so".

And will come to an even more cynical view of the MP excision melodrama. (No problem with the Firaxis business decision...only with the lack of honesty in discussion.)

TCO · May 5, 2002, 16:47

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Originally posted by asleepathewheel

Haven't you heard of Everquest? Insanely popular, insanely addictive and in a few cases deadly. Plus i've heard that the "country" of EQ's per capita income is in the top hundred in the world. Ebay sales of weapons and characters.

I hadn't heard of it. But suspected that something like this would exist. Just supports me thinking...

asleepathewheel · May 5, 2002, 16:52

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Originally posted by GP

I hadn't heard of it. But suspected that something like this would exist. Just supports me thinking...

Whatever you do, don't get it, or EQ2, not sure when its coming out. My ex-roommate was totally obsessed by it. Every waking minute playing it. Some guy allegedly killed himself because of the game a few weeks ago (his parents are suing, ridiculously enough) A game can be supported like this, it just takes some magic. I doubt Civ3 could work like this, as each game is self contained, no continuity between games.

Thrawn05 · May 5, 2002, 19:20

I don't think they would actualy pay to play. HOWEVER! I have the feeling they will push you to play on some gaming site no one ever heard of, and that site requires you to dish out a monthly subscription to play games on their site. Possibly, hard write it into the code that the MP runs better on their site then on regular Quake style of "Ping! I found you, let's play". Forcing people to use that site.

Remember, there are not that many people out there who can play games on a LAN. Either they don't have the computers, or their boss has had it with all your Civ2 LAN Parties and pulled the plug on his server.

sekong · May 6, 2002, 00:27

There are. At least Artifact does have a lot of loyal paid members. It's also a strategy empire building game. Membership can be purchased, and upgraded.

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Originally posted by GP
Are there any other MP based games with subscription? Perhaps making good money? Just curious. I'm not a gamer. But I figure that companies would try to Hoover out more money from player's pockets by doing this...

Alexander's Horse · May 6, 2002, 00:33

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Originally posted by GP
I may not be a gamer...but

Why should we pay ANY attention to what you say if you aren't a gamer?

sekong · May 6, 2002, 00:40

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Originally posted by GP

I hadn't heard of it. But suspected that something like this would exist. Just supports me thinking...

If you don't know this, then you may also need to know UO, Ashron's call. But all of them are Role play game. Artifact is different. It's closer to civ. Actually somewhere between civ and C&C. I hope the MP@civ3 should be somewhere between C&C and Artifact. WHich means: Firaxian provide a free on-line server. People like it have to buy the game, and play on the server as option. The server also function as a gamer community, and provide a flawless global ranking system by game design, server auto-report, cheat detect and so on. Wow Firaxian should hire me for on-line marketing. LOL

Grrr · May 6, 2002, 00:40

I agree with AH, what are you doing here, GP.

Metaliturtle · May 6, 2002, 00:41

as gamers, we should pay attention to non-gamers to get a different viewpoint on the debate, it may help us come up with a logic behind the corporation's movement, and maybe even give us ideas