What is the worst religion?

Dis · May 7, 2002, 05:11

there are so many to choose from. We've had plenty of good religion threads.

What are the worst. And no cults please, I already have a thread on that

My dad's side of my family was mormon. That is a strange religion. And what about those jehovah's witness'

. Although they can't be half bad. just a lot of walking going door to door. Islam? Yeah that deserves mentioning

. And what about those religion where you can't eat delicious pork. no pork chops = hell

Grrr · May 7, 2002, 05:18

Mormons or Witnesses of Jehovah.

s_qwert63 · May 7, 2002, 05:24

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Originally posted by Grrr
Mormons or Witnesses of Jehovah.

Imran Siddiqui · May 7, 2002, 05:25

Eeeeh... This is gonna be deleted

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Dis · May 7, 2002, 05:28

why is that?

It's no different than say what is the worst star trek series.

BTW what is the worst star trek series. that is an easy one. Voyager

aaglo · May 7, 2002, 05:28

Worst religion? I don't know them all, so it's hard to say. AFAIK all religions have good and bad aspects... but for an answer, I'd say Catholic...

LaRusso · May 7, 2002, 05:55

satanism

Drake Tungsten · May 7, 2002, 05:56

Wahabbism

Close second is Scientology.

Dis · May 7, 2002, 05:57

I'm satanist and I think it is pretty cool

good stuff, it pisses people off, especially those religious types.

They do not worship a living deity.
Major emphasis is placed on the power and authority of the individual Satanist, rather than on a god or goddess.
They believe that "no redeemer liveth" - that each person is their own redeemer, fully responsible for the direction of their own life.
"Satanism respects and exalts life. Children and animals are the purest expressions of that life force, and as such are held sacred and precious

The nine Satanic statements: These form the core of the Church of Satan beliefs. They were written by Anton LaVey. In abridged form, they state that Satan represents: Indulgence, not abstinence.
Vital existence, not spiritual pipe dreams.
Undefiled wisdom, not hypocritical self-deceit.
Kindness to those deserving of it, not love wasted on ingrates.
Vengeance, not turning the other cheek.
Responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires.
Man as just another animal - the most vicious of all.
Gratification of all ones desires.
The best friend that the Christian Church has had as he has kept it in business for centuries.

The nine Satanic sins are: Stupidity, pretentiousness, solipsism, self-deceit, herd conformity, lack of perspective, forgetfulness of past orthodoxies, counterproductive pride, and lack of aesthetics. 7

Theology of the CoS: People have created Gods in many forms; pick one that might be useful to you.
Heaven and hell do not exist.
Satan is not closely related to the modern (post 1400 AD) concept of the Christian devil. Satanists view Satan as a pre-Christian life principle which represents the carnal, earthly, and mundane aspects of life.
Satan is not a being, a living entity; he is a force of nature.
Human life is held in sacred regard.
"Satan...represents love, kindness and respect to those who deserve it."
The highest of all Satanic holidays is the birthday of the individual Satanist. Of less importance are: Walpurgisnacht (evening of April 30) and Halloween (evening of October 31),
Solstices in June and December,
Equinoxes in March and September,
Satanic Revels are held five to six weeks after each equinox and solstice

Many Christian anti-Satanic hate literature lists other seasonal days of celebration. However, they appear to have been pulled out of thin air by the authors. They have no connection with reality.
Black Masses (parodies of the Roman Catholic religious service) are not normally performed by Satanists (except on rare occasions for their entertainment or publicity value).

Dis · May 7, 2002, 05:59

funny stuff

Rituals and ceremonies contain the following concepts: Names used include Satan, Lucifer, Belial and Leviathan.
Ceremonies are pageants, which are used to celebrate a person or element of faith.
Magick rituals consist of three types:
Sex magic (includes masturbation),
Healing or happiness ritual, and
Destruction ritual (may include sticking pins in a doll; drawing a picture or writing a description of the victim's death; delivering a soliloquy, etc.). Destruction rituals are best performed by a group. If a person targeted by a destruction ritual is not deserving of it, the ritual will not harm them.

Male Satanists wear full length black robes, with or without a hood.
Young women wear sexually suggestive clothing; older women wear all black.
Many Satanists from different traditions wear amulets carrying the symbol of the Sigl of Baphomet. This is a goat's head, drawn within an inverted pentagram (5-pointed star with one point downward and two up). It is surrounded by a circle. Some sources state that this is a registered trade mark of the Church of Satan. This is not true; the symbol has been circulated for many decades before the Church was founded. Members of the Temple of Set use a simple inverted pentagram in a circle.
The A.S. LaVey's book The Satanic Bible shows a symbol located over the Nine Satanic Statements. It is an infinity sign (a figure 8 on its side). A Roman cross is placed at the center of the figure with a second, longer cross piece added. This is not a Satanic symbol; it is an ancient alchemical symbol for brimstone.
When the Satanic Bible was written (1969) a nude woman was customarily used as an altar, since Satanism is regarded as a religion of the flesh, not of the spirit. She reclined on an altar that was trapezoidal in shape, about 1 m high and 2 m long and placed against the West wall of the room. Her head pointed South. A live altar is now rarely used in the CoS.
One white candle is placed to the right of the altar; it symbolizes the belief of Satanists in the hypocrisy of "White Magicians" and Wiccans because of the latter's insistence on avoiding doing harm to others. At least one black candle, representing the Powers of Darkness, is placed to the left of the altar. These powers are sources of energy which are currently unknown and hidden. Additional black candles are oriented as needed to provide sufficient illumination.
The language used during magical ritual is Enochian, whose words variously sounds similar to Arabic, Hebrew or Latin. It was revealed to Dr. John Dee, court astrologer and metaphysician to Queen Elizabeth I, through his helper Edward Kelley. Kelley said that he was in contact with the Angels described in the Apocryphal book of Enoch.

Satanic ritual tools: A simple Satanic ritual can be performed with a single candle and a Baphomet. However, more elaborate rituals may include the following: A bell which is rung nine times at the beginning and end of the ritual; the Satanic priest rotates counter-clockwise as he rings the bell
A chalice, ideally made of silver; it may not be formed of gold because that is a metal that Satanists associate with Christianity and Neopagan religions. In fact, Wiccans and other Neopagans use chalices made of various metals, including silver, and other materials.
Other ritual tools include a gong, sword, elixir (usually wine), phallus, and parchment. They and the chalice and bell are placed on a small table near the altar.

Rules of behavior: Prayer is useless; it distracts people from useful activity.
Ritual killing (of humans or animals) violates Satanic principles. Blood drawn from a victim is useless. Victims are killed symbolically, not actually.
Members enjoy indulgence instead of abstinence. They practice with joy all the seven deadly Christian sins (greed, pride, envy, anger, gluttony, lust and sloth)
If a man smites you on one cheek, smash him on the other.
Do unto others as they do onto you.
Engage in sexual activity freely, in accordance with your needs (which may be best realized either through monogamy, or by having sex with many others; through heterosexuality, homosexuality or bisexuality; using sexual fetishes as you wish; by yourself or with one or more consenting adults). The ideal is a monogamous relationship based on compatibility and commitment.
Suicide is actively discouraged.
The Satanist needs no elaborate, detailed list of rules of behavior.
Membership in the CoS is limited to adults of legal age, unless a teenager obtains the written permission and attendance of their parent or legal guardian.

Political agenda: Termination of the myth of equality for all.
Tax all churches.
Remove any religious beliefs which have been incorporated in legislation.
"Development and production of artificial human companions."
The freedom for all to live within a total environment of their choice. 8

I love that young women are to wear sexually suggestive clothing. What more could you want in a religion?

Triped · May 7, 2002, 06:03

Hey, just so long as you're not one of those kids running around tacking '666' onto anything you can think of, that's cool (I suppose)

Just bear in mind that you will account for all of this someday.

Akka · May 7, 2002, 06:12

Worst religion ?
Free capitalism.

orange · May 7, 2002, 06:26

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Originally posted by Akka le Vil
Worst religion ?
Free capitalism.

Aeson · May 7, 2002, 06:40

I agree that there are a lot of misconceptions about satanism. Usually gets confused with devil worshippers. Of course what can you expect when you adopt the name of satan (the christian devil)? Seems a much better name could have been chosen if misrepresentation wanted to be avoided.

The worst religion has to be my own.

Bereta_Eder · May 7, 2002, 06:51

money and ads.

Jethro83 · May 7, 2002, 07:46

Worst religion: Televangelism "God wants you to send us money!"

Seriously though, I don't think too highly of the Jehova's Witnesses or Catholic denominations.

Since mormons aren't in full force down where I am, I can't comment, though from studying their beliefs, I'm not impressed with that one either.

In general, I don't think highly of any religion that takes everything by blind faith either.

But, I'm prepared to tolerate their beliefs, so long as they don't directly attack MY beliefs.

Buck Birdseed · May 7, 2002, 07:50

Hinduism. If you'll find a religion more clearly deisgned to maintain the power of those who already have it I invite you to try.

faded glory · May 7, 2002, 08:51

Hinduism. The people are starving yet Cow's are running around the street. Plus what snapcase says..

faded glory · May 7, 2002, 08:52

hey is the caste system still in place? I know in the religion it does. But does the Government still promote it?

Bereta_Eder · May 7, 2002, 08:53

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Originally posted by faded glory
Hinduism. The people are starving yet Cow's are running around the street.

That has always puzzled me as well.

IIRC I had written an essay on that subject in primary school where I proclaimed that if I was in India no cows would be safe from me in order to feed the starving children.

Caligastia · May 7, 2002, 08:57

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Originally posted by Dissident
I'm satanist and I think it is pretty cool

I agree with some of the stuff you listed, but not with this:

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Indulgence, not abstinence.

Vengeance, not turning the other cheek.

Gratification of all ones desires.

The problem with satanism is that its teachings are basically selfish. If "Gratification of all ones desires" is ok, then its okay for paedophiles to molest children, serial murderers to kill, rapists to rape...etc.

Vengeance also appeals to our most childish and animalistic urges. Turning the other cheek does not mean letting people walk over you.

Provost Harrison · May 7, 2002, 09:35

They're all crap

MrFun · May 7, 2002, 09:38

I usually do not like to compare religions merely to try to see if there is a worst one, or best one. I think that is unfair.

I just do not think that there is a worst religion, or a best religion.

loinburger · May 7, 2002, 10:07

Probably Scientology. There is some redeeming value to nearly all religions, but for the life of me I can't think of a single good aspect to Scientology.

Guynemer · May 7, 2002, 10:14

It gives us even more ammunition to make fun of celebrities.

Arrian · May 7, 2002, 10:25

Like Provost Harrison, I'll go with "all of the above."

-Arrian

loinburger · May 7, 2002, 10:35

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Originally posted by MrFun
I just do not think that there is a worst religion, or a best religion.

Then why be a Christian instead of, f'rinstance, a Hindu, Muslim, or Satanist?

faded glory · May 7, 2002, 10:36

Christianity is good. To my knowledge, we are not a violent militaristic Religon like Islam. We have been known for bad things like the Crusades. Etc..but consider the times. Islam was at Europes doorstep.

Oh and doesnt scientology have somthing to do with A-bombs and UFO's?

Skanky Burns · May 7, 2002, 10:38

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Originally posted by Provost Harrison
They're all crap

Although that 'naked female alter' sounds pretty good. I'll have to get one for my room

Guynemer · May 7, 2002, 10:42

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Originally posted by faded glory
Christianity is good. To my knowledge, we are not a violent militaristic Religon like Islam. We have been known for bad things like the Crusades. Etc..but consider the times. Islam was at Europes doorstep.

On second thought, I'm glad you haven't left the OT. I need the laughs.