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Pointless? The point was that they were oppressed by a society constricting on love and our modern day values.
Imagine how you would feel if you weren't able to be publicly open with your love for your girlfriend, if you had a child by her and you couldn't even by that child's rightful father, if you had to hide your love from the world and live seperately from the woman you loved.
I think it's one of the biggest romances of the millenium.
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Hence...  I don't like romances  . Give me something entertaining anyday. I don't want to hear about their 'feelings'. It bored me to tears and till this day I curse that horrid book and the waste of time it was.
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May 12, 2002, 01:55
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Hmmmm, I guess I'm just a *bit* more romantic than you are.... 
Ah well, as the romantic French say: "c'est la vie!" Remember though, it may have been a waste of time for you, but others have loved the book. Also, you can appreciate the fact that you know alot more about colonial society than you did before, such as the fact that you couldn't wear certain clothing if you were of a lower class, and so on...
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May 12, 2002, 02:39
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I'm not saying I'm that I'm not the end all, be all, but I just hated it (and following the OP, wanted to burn it  ).
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Hmmmm, I guess I'm just a *bit* more romantic than you are....
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Hopeless romantic perhaps  . My g/f finds me to be plenty romantic.
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Also, you can appreciate the fact that you know alot more about colonial society than you did before, such as the fact that you couldn't wear certain clothing if you were of a lower class, and so on...
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Actually.... that is the first I heard of that. I'm serious when I say I didn't get anything out of that book. Got more of colonial society from The Crucible.
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“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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May 12, 2002, 03:06
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so many books....
hands down:
Dante' Alighieri's "inferno" (am currently adapting a screenplay from it. )
others:
Stephen King - It
Anne Rice - Cry to Heaven and Queen of the Damned
and yes....i really like the Scarlet Letter..hawthorne fans should check out his short story "Artist of the Beautiful"
My Name is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
Paradise Lost by John Milton
The Illiad and THe Oddyssey by Homer
The Aeniad by Virgil
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May 12, 2002, 03:13
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DM, he said ONE book, not your entire collection .
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May 12, 2002, 03:13
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with the size of my collection, that might as well be one book 
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May 12, 2002, 03:24
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That would be a big book, missy .
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May 12, 2002, 03:28
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*shrugs* well...i am an english/writing major. 
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May 12, 2002, 03:30
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And what do you expect to do after school then? I'm sure that flipping burgers is not your first choice?
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May 12, 2002, 03:32
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no. grad school. I'm taking a year off in between....if i WANTEd to i could go become a screen play writer right out of college...but i want to go get my master's and PHD. i'm hoping to find a year long internship after graduation so i can just get out of the school scene a year before i dive back into it......alot of my professors say this will stave off burn out..and i'm already burned out.
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May 12, 2002, 03:37
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Ah, burn out. You just have to find other things (like Poly ) to counter the burn out.
Well, grad school is a damned good idea for an English major (really for any Liberal Arts major).
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May 12, 2002, 03:54
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I completely agree with Immy. I hated "The Scarlet Letter."
My fave would be "Homage to Catalonia" by Orwell.
I really love the "Songe of Ice and Fire" series by George R.R. Martin, though.
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May 12, 2002, 05:41
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/me wonders if the DNA book A Salmon of Doubt has anything to do with the Celtic myth of the Salmon of Knowledge...
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May 12, 2002, 08:44
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Re: so many books....
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Originally posted by devilmunchkin
hands down:
Dante' Alighieri's "inferno" (am currently adapting a screenplay from it. )
others:
Stephen King - It
Anne Rice - Cry to Heaven and Queen of the Damned
and yes....i really like the Scarlet Letter..hawthorne fans should check out his short story "Artist of the Beautiful"
My Name is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
Paradise Lost by John Milton
The Illiad and THe Oddyssey by Homer
The Aeniad by Virgil
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I am glad to notice that some people on Apolyton like to read a REAL book. Most seem to prefer rubbish, but this also applies for the public at large.
I find the idea to burn books disgusting. Only fascists burn books!
My favourites:
Homer: ' The Iliad', the greatest of all
The Bible -though a dark, dangerous and bloodthirsty book, the language is superb
Sophocles: ' Oedipus Rex' and ' Antigone'
Mahâbhârata, the epic of India
Tacitus: ' Annales', ' Historiae'
T'ang poetry by Wang Wei, Li Taibai, Du Fu and Bai Juyi
Béroul/G.von Strassburg: ' Tristan et Iseult' -the greatest love story ever invented
Dante: ' Divina comedia'
Shakespeare: ' Macbeth' and ' King Lear'
Tolstoy: ' War and Peace'
honourable mention:
Cervantes: ' Don Quijote'
Schiller: ' Maria Stuart'
L.Couperus: ' De boeken der kleine zielen' (The Small Souls), 1901-03
Proust: ' À la recherche du temps perdu'
Tolkien: ' The Silmarillion'
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May 12, 2002, 10:47
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Literature: Les Miserables - Victor Hugo
(Runner up: Great Expectations - Charles Dickens)
Non-Fiction: A Night to Remember - Walter Lord
(Runner up: A Study of History - Alfred Toynbee)
Fiction: Lord of the Rings - Tolkien
(Runner up: The Haunting of Hill House - Shirley Jackson)
Bio: Lincoln - Gore Vidal
(Runner up: Brahms - Malcolm MacDonald)
Humor: Hitchhiker's Guide, of course!
(Runner up: Rush Limbaugh is a Big, Fat Idiot - Al Franken)
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May 12, 2002, 10:49
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There's a fine line between enjoying good literature and being an elitist, pretentious snot, Kroeze
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May 12, 2002, 10:54
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Starship Troopers
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I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).
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May 12, 2002, 12:05
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Homer's Odyssey and Illiad
Hyperion + Fall of hyperion
with a bunch of other ancient books
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May 12, 2002, 12:06
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There's also a fine line between displaying your literary knowledge by your fine choice of inclusions and displaying your utter cluelessness and pretentiousness by including trite, ill-written bollocks like The Silmarillon.
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May 12, 2002, 13:13
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There's a fine line between enjoying good literature and being an elitist, pretentious snot, Kroeze
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I suggest we continue the discussion after you have actually read at least half of my reading recommendations.
Sincerely,
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May 12, 2002, 13:24
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Ahhh. Elitism, great as a substitute for those who have no actual taste.
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May 12, 2002, 13:48
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I tried reading the Bible once... That's when I became an agnostic, since reading the Bible really showed me that I can't prove God.
* wishes that people will ignore this post and not start a giant religion-agnosticism flamewar *
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May 12, 2002, 16:11
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My favorite book is the Bible. Other books that I enjoy include the series on Lincoln by Carl Sandburg, and The Gathering Storm by Churchill. The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich was another good one and I like to study biology from different authors. Also I enjoy history in general but almost no fiction.
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May 12, 2002, 16:14
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There's a fine line between enjoying good literature and being an elitist, pretentious snot, Kroeze
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And it seems like he's crossed it.
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Ahhh. Elitism, great as a substitute for those who have no actual taste.
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May 12, 2002, 16:18
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Stryer, Biochemistry (4th ed.)
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May 12, 2002, 17:26
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Seriously, PH, what would be a book you like? I get the feeling you're literature-wise uneducated
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May 12, 2002, 17:46
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I like a good old textbook. None of that fiction crap
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May 12, 2002, 17:49
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come on... there must be something like that you have read and like...
BTW, communist propaganda is also fictional
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May 12, 2002, 17:51
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Provost: you should try Harlequins.
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I am glad to notice that some people on Apolyton like to read a REAL book. Most seem to prefer rubbish, but this also applies for the public at large.
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well, i'm an english major..it's what i do! I like sophocles, but i tend to get very depressed when reading the oedipus trilogy. here's a good one though...The Oresteia...awesome stuff. also, for shakespeare fans, try The Tempest.
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May 12, 2002, 21:08
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Re: Re: so many books....
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Originally posted by S. Kroeze
My favourites:
Homer: 'The Iliad', the greatest of all
The Bible -though a dark, dangerous and bloodthirsty book, the language is superb
Sophocles: 'Oedipus Rex' and 'Antigone'
Mahâbhârata, the epic of India
Tacitus: 'Annales', 'Historiae'
T'ang poetry by Wang Wei, Li Taibai, Du Fu and Bai Juyi
Béroul/G.von Strassburg: 'Tristan et Iseult' -the greatest love story ever invented
Dante: 'Divina comedia'
Shakespeare: 'Macbeth' and 'King Lear'
Tolstoy: 'War and Peace'
honourable mention:
Cervantes: 'Don Quijote'
Schiller: 'Maria Stuart'
L.Couperus: 'De boeken der kleine zielen' (The Small Souls), 1901-03
Proust: 'À la recherche du temps perdu'
Tolkien: 'The Silmarillion'
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get a life!!! 
please don't tell me you actually think these are good books!!
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