Beyond Alpha Centauri:::: Discussion Thread 5 - Page 12

History Guy · June 2, 2002, 22:22

Yeah...it sounds relatively small, but the question is, how much is a credit worth? I have mentioned Morgan dollars before, and I was thinking that a Morgan dollar was worth a bit more than what an American dollar is today, and I'm not too sure exactly what I'll have a credit worth. All I know is...it's a good sum.

Morgan's greatest asset is mula, and he's hoping that Terra is half as greedy as he is. Like I said, this is only to lighten up the Terrans somewhat.

Mr. President · June 3, 2002, 01:10

I'm surprised Morgan didn't worry about the possibility of Neville Chamberlain Syndrome, that is, you give something to a rival but he keeps asking for more.

Sprayber · June 3, 2002, 01:52

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I'm surprised Morgan didn't worry about the possibility of Neville Chamberlain Syndrome, that is, you give something to a rival but he keeps asking for more.

Chamberlin didn't have an increassingly annoyed Spartan Federation behind him

Mr. President · June 3, 2002, 03:24

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Chamberlin didn't have an increassingly annoyed Spartan Federation behind him

Good point.

As long as I'm here, thanks for the link you sent me. I'll get around to the story, eventually.

Sprayber · June 3, 2002, 03:35

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Good point.

As long as I'm here, thanks for the link you sent me. I'll get around to the story, eventually.

I'll get you some general descriptions tomorrow.

Sovereign · June 3, 2002, 11:57

Hey guys!

Guess what? Over the past few days, I've been inspired to play SMAC-X. It has been quite a while since I've played the actual game itself. But reading all these fic's made me want to play SMAC again.

I built myself a nice empire, playing a renamed University faction. I think its my best game so far, and unlikely I'll be able to surpass that.

I'm gonna take a SS and put it up here.

By the way, Franky...

Could you send me the link to your website? I don't have it on this computer. You see, I have two computers, one for home and one for college.

I know I've been putting off making posts for a while, but I can assure you a few are being worked on. You know, editing and fixing up... I want to make a detailed post to further the Quantum tech developments.

Also, I'd like to colonize a 7th or 8th system. In addition, I'd like to introduce a couple other aliens... The purpose of this would be to show how the UCS colonizes a system from the ground up, as well as shows how the UCS interacts with new aliens... and the aliens's reactions to the UCS presence. The aliens I have in mind are medevial - Industrial age.

I think the aliens could be some kind of species evolved from a bird... and the other evolved from an insect or something. We have too many reptile aliens like Gorn, Dosi, Bree, etc. I'd like to have some different kinds of aliens for a change. Bird aliens, Insect aliens, Aquatic aliens (like Morgan's Cepheelans), sentient plants, etc.

Surely, it wouldn't hurt to have some variety like pacifistic aliens instead of aggressive aliens like Progenitors, Gorn, Bree, Dosi, Ronso, Tarlaks, etc....

And if I do include the 1 or 2 new aliens, it won't be on the same planet. Probably in 2 different star systems.

Remember, after all, space is a huge place. In our galaxy alone, there are 100 - 200 billion stars, and even if only 50 million of these stars has planets with water and life, thats a lot. Therefore, it could be anywhere between 10,000 - 1,000,000 distinct sentient species existing on habitable planets in the 50 million fertile star systems in our galaxy.

Let me know what you guys think.

Laters,

Academician Randius Zakharov

Kassiopeia · June 3, 2002, 12:29

Franky's site's url (at least according to my site's links section) :

http://www.geocities.com/frankychan96816/HivePrime.htm

Silence · June 3, 2002, 12:38

back again, ( I wonder how many times i have said that?) while I am checking on the thread is there any major conflict that somebody would like to enter with the Conclave so I can do something over then fight my civil war?

Mellian · June 3, 2002, 15:35

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yes,i realise 50 million isnt a small sum.its just IMHO,the chiron factions are much stronger than the ''earthers''...

The Earth Coalition itself, sure, but the entire Terran Alliance combined? only slightly due to resources and slightly better military technology.

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i think BAC would be more entertaining if the humans played one side vs the ''AI'' or whatever you call it in this situation,because no one would get offended when there faction starts getting destroyed(leading to a stalemate when they counter each others moves over and over and the thread dying)

I agree with you, and we could do the AI thing...thats why the Proginators are in the background

we will get into that when the players are interested.

-Mellian

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Mellian · June 3, 2002, 15:42

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50 million credits?! why is morgan paying them,and not vice versa??espessialy with that mighty drone\spartan\believer fleet sitting on the border??

Because I am running the Terran Alliance and they are not push overs. They won't be threatened and will only prove their point that the Chironians are out to get them. Terran Alliance has a lot of ships as well...probably more. Only thign that makes the Chironian stronger is technology, which isn't a big of difference anyway. Another thing, it is the Morganites who started this whole thing

-Mellian

Mellian · June 3, 2002, 15:51

As for energy credits value.... It is ENERGY, unlike paper/coin money, inflation doesn't (shouldn't) effect the value. I always assumed that one energy credit is worth quite a lot, depending on how many watts. Think of it as the Gold of the future, where you can use to make stuff directly via replicators and power stuff. Energy in real life is quite an commodity.

Another thing, didn't we agree that Trading is more barter like then current real life trading? can be base on energy value of products. (how much energy does it take to make synthsteel?)

-Mellian

Mellian · June 3, 2002, 15:55

As for energy credits value.... It is ENERGY, unlike paper/coin money, inflation doesn't (shouldn't) effect the value. I always assumed that one energy credit is worth quite a lot, depending on how many watts. Think of it as the Gold of the future, where you can use to make stuff directly via replicators and power stuff. Energy in real life is quite an commodity.

Another thing, didn't we agree that Trading is more barter like then current real life trading? can be base on energy value of products. (how much energy does it take to make synthsteel?)

So think ENERGY Economy, not the obsolete MATERIAL economy which is vulnerable to inflation. i would think society would think of something else when they realize or after an another great depression because of mass inflation.

-Mellian

Kataphraktoi · June 3, 2002, 17:05

too much easy-to-get energy floating around decreasing the value=inflation

i thought the great despression(your talking about the one inn the states 1920ish?) was caused by the market having a slight sudden drop,and investers panicking a little,and pulling stocks,causing other people to panic and pull there stocks,leading to a economic collapse...or something like that

Kataphraktoi · June 3, 2002, 17:08

and im guessing you hit the post button,then hit stop and typed some more there....

GeneralTacticus · June 3, 2002, 18:23

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Another thing, it is the Morganites who started this whole thing

Mellian, we've had this argument before. The only people you can possibly blame for starting this are InEn.

Mr. President · June 3, 2002, 19:21

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Because I am running the Terran Alliance and they are not push overs.

I don't think anybody implied that they were.

Frankychan · June 3, 2002, 20:54

Sovereign-yeah, I think that link should work. I haven't been upkeeping my website so....my bad.

As for the "weakness" of the Terrans-

I, for one, do not think they are weak! Maybe because of the lopsidedness of the author distribution makes them seem more "weaker". Readers are seeing more Chironian posts than Terran posts and this presentation may be the cause of the perceived Terran "weakness".

....sorry, i'm getting all 'psychological' on everyone!

But, yeah, I don't think the Terrans are weak! Yang has big plans for them!

Anyway, I'm going to start introducing a Hive subplot to the story. Everything I have done so-far has been geared toward my main plot and I feel that this may be a "welcomed" break. If any readers were wondering where I was going, I welcome any PM-ed questions to me.

My growing alliance with the University, the Hive's involvement in the Terran-Morgan war, the Protectorate-Hive relationship falling apart, all of these are geared toward Yang's master plan!

Bwa ha ha ha!

(although the UCSS-GHE alliance will benefit both of our governments! I believe Randius Zakharov and Sheng-ji Yang will make a great team!)

See ya later everyone!

Kataphraktoi · June 3, 2002, 21:06

whats yangs master plan anyway?complete enslavement of the galaxy?

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I, for one, do not think they are weak! Maybe because of the lopsidedness of the author distribution makes them seem more "weaker". Readers are seeing more Chironian posts than Terran posts and this presentation may be the cause of the perceived Terran "weakness".

i never considered them to be weak.just that the chiron factions are stronger

Frankychan · June 3, 2002, 21:34

Well...Yang's master plan is....hey, how come you don't have a PM option above your postings?!

Lonestar · June 3, 2002, 22:30

Well all, I'm going to Boot tomorrow. Assume the Protectorate is in "sleep" mode.

Adios!

Frankychan · June 3, 2002, 22:36

Good luck Lonestar!

Best wishes from frankychan! You take care of yourself.

Mr. President · June 3, 2002, 23:12

[sings]

In the Navy, yes you can put your mind at ease!

[/sings]

Give 'em hell, Lonestar! And if you see Saddam, tell him what he can kiss.

Kataphraktoi · June 3, 2002, 23:25

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Well...Yang's master plan is....hey, how come you don't have a PM option above your postings?!

me?i dont know...maybe i disabled it when i registered...

looking back over the last few posts,i see everyone has a send pm option and i dont

Mr. President · June 3, 2002, 23:27

Yeah, when I view your profile, there is a definite absence of a "Send Cataphract887 a Private Message" link. If you want to enable it, you should go to your Edit Options screen from your control panel and there should be a thing you can check that says "Allow users to send you private messages" or something like that.

Kataphraktoi · June 4, 2002, 10:38

thanks

ill muck around with that today and see if i can get that fixed

Silence · June 4, 2002, 13:33

Good luck Lonestar

Sovereign · June 5, 2002, 02:23

Hey guys...

I'm kind of at a stump here...

Here's the thing. I'm not exactly sure which Quantum stuff to write about... Quantum reactors, Quantum weapons, Quantum computer processors, etc??

I don't want to suddenly have quantum stuff in 2 weeks, you know? What would be a good springing off board for quantum tech experiments??

Thanks for your feedback!

Laters,

Academician Randius Zakharov

GeneralTacticus · June 5, 2002, 02:52

Most likely Quantum Reactors. They come first in the game, after all.

Mr. President · June 5, 2002, 07:02

I'd say quantum computers, since that doesn't involve controlling reactions that release enormous amounts of energy. Just my opinion.

Mellian · June 5, 2002, 12:03

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too much easy-to-get energy floating around decreasing the value=inflation

Not if the energy is very high in watts. Basing my judgement of energy credit value in SMAC/X energy credit. Like, how energy it takes to power a base? how much energy is required to build something? Energy as a lot of applications and uses, where paper money or gold doesn't. It is even bigger of need then money itself these days. SO, energy is very valueble, especially as we progress more and more in technology.

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i thought the great despression(your talking about the one inn the states 1920ish?) was caused by the market having a slight sudden drop,and investers panicking a little,and pulling stocks,causing other people to panic and pull there stocks,leading to a economic collapse...or something like that

No, I am talking the next Great Depression that will come due to heavy inflation and so on, which is increasing every single year. people treated 1000 dollars US as we do a Million now. the way the rate is go7ing, well be treating a billion the same way as we do with a million now.

-*Mel+l+ian (keyb7oard is screwed up)