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Old May 20, 2002, 23:33   #31
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I'd love to get my greedy little hands on a custom avatar. I've been here for a long time (lurking much of it, true), I've been a good citizen, and if it weren't for that bizarre OT rule I'd have had enough posts ages ago...

Come on. Power to the people! Let the avatars run free!
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And so do I (no surprise).
At least it makes sense.

So KH... as long as you aren't using it... anybody can.

The artist makes a political statement by withdrawing his work. Picasso and "Guernica" spring to mind...
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The artist makes a political statement by withdrawing his work. Picasso and "Guernica" spring to mind...
Yes....but re-sizing a photo does not a artist make.
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Why does the word "whoosh!" spring to mind when I read this post?
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Yes....but re-sizing a photo does not a artist make.
Cropping, resizing and compressing...

You obviously haven't seen the crap that people are allowed to copyright. This is a derivative work of a public-domain work; my rights to the work I did are protected under the law.
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Cropping, resizing and compressing...

You obviously haven't seen the crap that people are allowed to copyright. This is a derivative work of a public-domain work; my rights to the work I did are protected under the law.
So, have you actually copyrighted the kitten?
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Sheesh, it's just an avatar. I'd be flattered if someone else started using mine...
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So, have you actually copyrighted the kitten?
Not necessary, IIRC. Preferable to actually get notarised form, but only for proof purposes...
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You obviously haven't seen the crap that people are allowed to copyright. This is a derivative work of a public-domain work; my rights to the work I did are protected under the law.
This is true, modifying public-domain then makes the derivative your property. No copyrighting necessary for it to stand up in court.
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You obviously haven't seen the crap that people are allowed to copyright. This is a derivative work of a public-domain work; my rights to the work I did are protected under the law.
This is true, modifying public-domain then makes the derivative your property. No copyrighting necessary for it to stand up in court.
That's a pretty bamn stupid rule, IMHO.
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orange,is that an anti-"anti-avatar wars" avatar?
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Confused Kitten...
Amazingly stupid thread (and yet I contribute...).

Copyright is a publication issue and an intellectual property issue. What KH says about his actions creating a copyright-able work is true. The laws, while ostensibly about IP are, in fact, designed to prevent economic harm to lawful rights holders. Further, enforcement starts with the IP holder, who must a priori stake his claim (the circle-C).

But here, there is no commerce and no intent of commerce, thus no real harm. In addition, this site/forum is a public place on which we dwell at the whim of the owners. KH chose to post (publish) his avatar on this public board -- on the Web!! -- without staking any claim to the "art" involved in its production.

There's moral right and legal right. You're batting .500, KH. Enjoy the moral high ground, but with no economic claim, no provable damages, and a faulty approach to protecting your intellectual property, you have no legal claim (especially to a public domain "version" that can be substantially -- and legally --duplicated.

BTW, that line equating graphic sizing and data compression to art is just too precious. All that did was cede squatter's rights...

OK, bored now. Y'all have fun.
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BTW, per KH, that also should mean that RAH owns copyright to several of the Muppet avatars!

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NO, wait, it mean RAH stole several of those Muppet avatars.

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orange,is that an anti-"anti-avatar wars" avatar?
Yes

Oh, and to go along with what KH was saying...

wasn't there just a thread on how someone patented a method of swinging on a swing???
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Yes

Oh, and to go along with what KH was saying...

wasn't there just a thread on how someone patented a method of swinging on a swing???
Why not? AOL tried to patent "You got mail".
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well, that I can almost see as a company catchphrase...but how do you patent swinging on a swing?
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Much like the article in The Onion about Bill Gates patenting the "1" and "0"...

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I want to complain about LightEning's avatar. It is blatantly obvious that it is a picture of a spaced out dolphin.

That, and it makes my avatar look lame.
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This thread is everything I could have hoped for and more.
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