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Agnostics. Atheists Without Balls ?
I was looking at Red Jons bisexual thread, and thinking that bisexuals were just sex hogs. 
Which somehow got me to thinking about Agnostics vs. Atheists.
Seems to me that, like bisexuals, they just want all their bases covered.
Is this essentially correct ?
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May 22, 2002, 14:26
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No, I disagree.
I don't buy into organized religion, but cannot discard the possibility, however small, that there is some "higher power." I highly doubt there is, but there are still an awful lot of unknowns in the universe.
There is a wide range of opinion, I'm sure.
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May 22, 2002, 14:26
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No. I don't care about covering any bases, I see no reason to do that. I am agnostic because while I do not worship a God or think any religion has stumbled across the real nature of God, I refuse to discount God's existence. To do so would be immensely arrogant on the part of any person.
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May 22, 2002, 14:27
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Fredreich Engels called agnoistism "shame-faced materialism." They just don't have the cajones to admit what they know to be true.
Bisexuality isn't even close to being the same thing.
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May 22, 2002, 14:28
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Re: Agnostics. Atheists Without Balls ?
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Which somehow got me to thinking about Agnostics vs. Atheists.
Seems to me that, like bisexuals, they just want all their bases covered.
Is this essentially correct ?
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No, you ****ing moron. 
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May 22, 2002, 14:29
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Bisexuals are, not by choice, bisexuals.
Agnostics are, by choice, people who don't know or don't care about the possibility of a God. If there is a God, he damn well let me live my life how I please. If there isn't a God, no harm done.
I don't see a point to arguing either way. It's trivial.
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May 22, 2002, 14:29
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Could you expand a little on your basis of thought , Asher?
Or is pasting a rolly-eyed smiley the best shot you have? 
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May 22, 2002, 14:31
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It's akin to me asking you: How do you feel being a heterosexual just to fit in?
It's a bullshit question by an ignorant person. 
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May 22, 2002, 14:34
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Fredreich Engels called agnoistism "shame-faced materialism." They just don't have the cajones to admit what they know to be true.
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...that God doesnt exist?
Anyone who claims they "know this to be true" is incredibly arrogant.
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May 22, 2002, 14:36
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Don't sugarcoat it, Asher. Tell me how you feel. 
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May 22, 2002, 14:39
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Clarify for the ignorant one here. Agnostics don't necessairly believe in God but don't dicount the possibility that there could.....maybe....someday be one. And of course Atheists just don't believe that there is any God anywhere right?
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May 22, 2002, 14:40
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i don't agree, but man that title had me laughing
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May 22, 2002, 14:42
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How is other people get away with saying bullshit?
EDIT: Whoa! I said it! Go me!
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May 22, 2002, 14:42
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From Webster's- Agnostic: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and prob. unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
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May 22, 2002, 14:46
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From Webster's- Agnostic: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and prob. unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
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And how does that contradict anything the agnostics here have said? Or show that agnostics are somehow lacking in balls?
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May 22, 2002, 14:48
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ahhhhhHHhhhh thank you.
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May 22, 2002, 14:48
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you can always add "< x >" (without the quotes, without the spaces) between any two letters of the phrase to dodge the censor, Boris.
Watch and learn...
wan < x > ker (without spaces) = wanker
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May 22, 2002, 14:49
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Follow along with me here, Boris.
Atheists say they don't believe.
Christians (and other religions) say they do.
Agnostics sit on the fence.
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May 22, 2002, 14:50
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nothing to see here.... 
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May 22, 2002, 14:51
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Cal, are you at work, or left alone in the nursery?
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May 22, 2002, 14:53
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oh dear, look what i've started
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"Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez
"I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui
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May 22, 2002, 14:55
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Caligastia, if Ming or another mod sees you bypassing the censor, you will get it. I've seen it happen before.
Slow: Such an assertion is bullshit, because it relies on an either/or proposition. Nothing in the real world is black/white, either/or. There's nothing wrong or non-commital about picking None of the Above. I am firmly, commitedly agnostic, for the reasons I stated above. Explain to me how I'm a fence-sitter.
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Follow along with me here, Boris.
Atheists say they don't believe.
Christians (and other religions) say they do.
Agnostics sit on the fence.
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 I simply can not fathom how you come to that conclusion.
Athiests do not believe in a god, Christians do, and agnostics don't care - I don't see how there is even room for 'fence sitting' in this picture.
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May 22, 2002, 14:55
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Yeah. WTG, Orange. And Cal is one of the more sensible here. 
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May 22, 2002, 14:58
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Cal, are you at work, or left alone in the nursery?
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gaga goo ga
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May 22, 2002, 14:58
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Osweld, you speak English in Canada? Or are you French?
What you quoted says, Athesists say they don't believe.
As for you Boris, if you go either/neither way, how is that not sitting on the fence?
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Slow:
I don't know the true nature of God, nor does anyone, and I don't think humans can ever know the true nature of God. That's not fence-sitting, as fence-sitting would be vascilating between thinking he does and doesn't exist.
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Re: Agnostics. Atheists Without Balls ?
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
I was looking at Red Jons bisexual thread, and thinking that bisexuals were just sex hogs.
Which somehow got me to thinking about Agnostics vs. Atheists.
Seems to me that, like bisexuals, they just want all their bases covered.
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nah!
Atheists say: there is no God. (a-theos = No God)
Agnostics say: I don't know whether there is or not. Also it is impossible to know (a-gnossis - no knowledge)
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That just means that he's leaving room open for the possibility in the future to change his mind if he so desires. Correct?
Is that really fence sitting? I would think that's leaving one self open to have one's mind changed if enough evidence comes along to satisfy one. Not having a totally closed mind on the subject if you will.
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Agnostics are the wisest ones. They're not making any decision without proof one way or the other.
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